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Ladarius Gunter...expectations?

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I don't have any expectations because he has yet to play a game. He's got good size, can run and seems to be a physical kid, which is sorely needed.

Hopefully him and Howard/Crawford/Davis can provide the kind of CB play that's been missing since Maxey and Jennings were the starters. (Maxey had one of the greatly underappreciated seasons in 'Cane history IMO. Dude was shutdown city in '04-05).
 
The scheme we ran wasn't conducive to Harris getting picks. He was forced to chase the opponents best WR all over the field with has back to the qb most of te time. We hardly ran any coverages at all under Shannon where BH was in zone coverage, which puts the DB in a much better position to come up with picks. BH wasn't all American level, but he was a solid player and def an above average college DB.
 
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He had 1 INT the entire season. Yeah he locked his side down but he never became the ball hawk he could have been. He always dropped balls that were thrown right to his numbers. His hands and ball skills needed major work IMO. Just haven't understood why players like him left early before accomplishing anything they set out for. He would have been huge in the defense last year.
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Brandon Harris didn't get a lot of interceptions b/c QBs rarely tried to throw it his way. He was a lockdown corner and he would lay the wood in run support. Cornerbacks usually are graded by how much they can make the receiver "disappear" in games, over interceptions, and he pretty much shut receivers down since day one.
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I don't agree at all. QB's threw his way and I lost count of how many balls bounced right off his chest or in and out of hands. Harris was the best CB on a roster of mediocre CB's. If he was such a baller where is he in the NFL? Our CB's have a history of coming out of college and dominating at the next level. Harris is not one of them. He may prove me and others wrong. We'll wait and see if that's the case. If he's developing then why didn't he develop one more year in college?
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Our cb's have a history of dominating in the league? O'rly? Name one recent corner who fits that bill. Harris was a solid underappreciated guy here--no world beater but invaluable to that defense since he ran the back. He didnt get a lot of picks because he played a lot of man in that D. We havent had a corner get more than 5 picks since buchanon who had 5. Did rumph and rolle and jennings also stink? The safeties shouldve benefitted in that system and they did to an extent (reed, taylor, meriweather). I suspect these newer guys in this system will rack up more picks although that wont mean they are better.

On the topic, I doubt anyone knows what this guy will do but he'll learn on the job like everyone else. I'm sure he'll have his share of struggles. This year is honestly just prep work for the future.
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How can Harris be "underappreciated"? The guy came in hyped us one of the best CBs in the nation, on par with Janoris Jenkins and Pat Peterson. He ended up as a disappointment, typical of the Shannon era...workout/combine warriors, puss*cats on the field. The list of these kinds of characters is a mile long.
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Harris had a good career.

It was just stained by a terrible performance in the Sun Bowl (against a big, NFL-caliber receiver).
 
Harris wasn't terrible in the sun bowl. floyd abused him once and another time i recall him falling down. wouldn't say he was terrible
 
Well i'm just going to leave it at this....

- Brandon Harris was a Jim Thorpe Award candidate, while playing under a weak Football program operated by Randy Shannon.

Now in regards to Ladarius Gunter... IMO, He does have the potential to be better than Brandon. He's more physically gifted, being 6'2" 200 lbs w/ 4.4 speed. which he can use to bail himself out if/when he makes technical mistakes. Also the fact that Gunter is being coached under Al Golden instead of Randy Shannon is probably the biggest reason.
 
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Harris wasn't terrible in the sun bowl. floyd abused him once and another time i recall him falling down. wouldn't say he was terrible
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So the QB's never threw Brandon's way but the two times they did throw to Brandon in the Sun Bowl once he was abused and the second times he fell down and that's not terrible?
 
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Gunter played HS in the Gump and I remember the knock on him his senior year was that he was too raw. He had some trouble with fundamentals. Physically though, the kid was impressive. Now it seems that he has cleaned up some of those fundamental problems in JUCO and I think he'll start game 1 and do really well this year.

Edit: Forgot to mention that he also played on a 1-9 team his senior year. That's probably another reason that he didn't get any big offers. I'm not sure how his grades were at the time or if that factored in as well.
 
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