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Kalen Deboer

Squid Bumciorek said:
He is an excellent coach but he shouldn’t have left Washington for Bama. He’s never going to live up to Sabans legacy . When he was hired, I said that as soon as he loses one he shouldn’t, the honeymoon is over. And if he misses the sec championship game a couple years in a row, the Bama fans will say he’s a loser and they need a new coach. And Bama isn’t going to be as dominant going forward as they were under Saban as Bama isn’t the beneficiary of the ncaa letting them cheat at recruiting and scrutinizing everyone else. NIL is the great equalizer. If UM makes a playoff run, recruits will ask - do I get paid to go to Miami and have a chance to win a championship or do I go to Tuscaloosa? Cfb is infinitely better now.
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Do the kids really care that much about that, Miami v Tuscaloosa? I mean I don’t doubt the Bama football players are walking gods around campus & town? Do Canes players get the same treatment in Gables & Miami?

I realize in the late 80s the Canes did, but today?
 
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BS85 said:
I like Mario but yes
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You are still wrong. And dopey.

There is more to coaching than just "on-field", and I don't think anyone has said that Mario is some great on-field coach. He's never been a play-calling coordinator, so that is an area where he needs to hire well and delegate properly.

But there are other areas of coaching too, and I'm not just talking about recruiting.

Motivation, culture, discipline, morale, all of thoese areas are ones in which a head coach plays a huge role.

Alabama failed to come back to beat Vanderbilt. Malachi Moore had multiple outbursts. So, you know, maybe we hold off on Deboer's Hall of Fame induction until he has proven what he can do at Alabama.

Mario might just be better at certain things than Deboer is, but all you small-sample-size/ignore-everything-else guys are so eager to swallow Deboer's balls that you won't listen to any other possibilities.

Obviously, Miami should have hired one of those QB-whisperer/OC-playcalling geniuses...like Bily Napier...
 
RVACane said:
Yup, I confused them. Fresno before Washington not Boise.
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Or, as the OP and others have called it, "Frenso"...

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Squid Bumciorek said:
He is an excellent coach but he shouldn’t have left Washington for Bama. He’s never going to live up to Sabans legacy . When he was hired, I said that as soon as he loses one he shouldn’t, the honeymoon is over. And if he misses the sec championship game a couple years in a row, the Bama fans will say he’s a loser and they need a new coach. And Bama isn’t going to be as dominant going forward as they were under Saban as Bama isn’t the beneficiary of the ncaa letting them cheat at recruiting and scrutinizing everyone else. NIL is the great equalizer. If UM makes a playoff run, recruits will ask - do I get paid to go to Miami and have a chance to win a championship or do I go to Tuscaloosa? Cfb is infinitely better now.
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It’s a rough task going to Bama after Saban.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
You are still wrong. And dopey.

There is more to coaching than just "on-field", and I don't think anyone has said that Mario is some great on-field coach. He's never been a play-calling coordinator, so that is an area where he needs to hire well and delegate properly.

But there are other areas of coaching too, and I'm not just talking about recruiting.

Motivation, culture, discipline, morale, all of thoese areas are ones in which a head coach plays a huge role.

Alabama failed to come back to beat Vanderbilt. Malachi Moore had multiple outbursts. So, you know, maybe we hold off on Deboer's Hall of Fame induction until he has proven what he can do at Alabama.

Mario might just be better at certain things than Deboer is, but all you small-sample-size/ignore-everything-else guys are so eager to swallow Deboer's balls that you won't listen to any other possibilities.

Obviously, Miami should have hired one of those QB-whisperer/OC-playcalling geniuses...like Bily Napier...
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Honestly the biggest thing about Cristobal, and why I think he's a great recruiter, is that he genuinely seems to care about his players.

I think families pick up on that (either directly or when they talk to other players [and their families] on his team) and realise he's going to look after their son.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
You are still wrong. And dopey.

There is more to coaching than just "on-field", and I don't think anyone has said that Mario is some great on-field coach. He's never been a play-calling coordinator, so that is an area where he needs to hire well and delegate properly.

But there are other areas of coaching too, and I'm not just talking about recruiting.

Motivation, culture, discipline, morale, all of thoese areas are ones in which a head coach plays a huge role.

Alabama failed to come back to beat Vanderbilt. Malachi Moore had multiple outbursts. So, you know, maybe we hold off on Deboer's Hall of Fame induction until he has proven what he can do at Alabama.

Mario might just be better at certain things than Deboer is, but all you small-sample-size/ignore-everything-else guys are so eager to swallow Deboer's balls that you won't listen to any other possibilities.

Obviously, Miami should have hired one of those QB-whisperer/OC-playcalling geniuses...like Bily Napier...
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You are still wrong. And dopey.

Oh snap, burned

There is more to coaching than just "on-field", and I don't think anyone has said that Mario is some great on-field coach. He's never been a play-calling coordinator, so that is an area where he needs to hire well and delegate properly.

But there are other areas of coaching too, and I'm not just talking about recruiting.

Motivation, culture, discipline, morale, all of thoese areas are ones in which a head coach plays a huge role.

Three paragraphs to describe that coaches don't just coach on the field. Thanks for that.

Alabama failed to come back to beat Vanderbilt. Malachi Moore had multiple outbursts. So, you know, maybe we hold off on Deboer's Hall of Fame induction until he has proven what he can do at Alabama.

Mario might just be better at certain things than Deboer is, but all you small-sample-size/ignore-everything-else guys are so eager to swallow Deboer's balls that you won't listen to any other possibilities.

You say I'm focusing on a small sample size but then say he's not that great because he lost ONE game? You're not good at this.

Obviously, Miami should have hired one of those QB-whisperer/OC-playcalling geniuses...like Bily Napier...

I never said Mario was a bad hire, i liked the hire from the start because he can recruit and develop an o-line (my exact words pre hire). He's driven me nuts with some dumb **** but he works hard and the program is trending in the right direction which is awesome.

Guess what, i can like Mario but still think DeBoer is a better coach. He probably has the best resume I've ever seen. Please read even though you'll write 20 pages of word diarrhea about how much he sucks.

DeBoer accumulated a record of 104-12, which includes a 25-3 record in his previous stop with the Washington Huskies and three NAIA National Championships at Sioux Falls.
DeBoer has a 12-2 record against top-25 teams in his four seasons at Fresno State and Washington.
In 2023, he led Washington to the College Football Playoff National Championship Game with a victory over Texas in the Sugar Bowl. DeBoer's '23 group won the Pac-12 Championship and recorded the most wins in a season in program history (14). Additionally, he won the 2023 Associated Press, AFCA, Eddie Robinson, George Munger, Walter Camp, Sporting News and Home Depot Coach of the Year awards.

DeBoer became the first Washington coach to win 11-or-more games in consecutive seasons after going 11-2 in 2022 and 14-1 in 2023 and the first to win a bowl game in his first season with the Huskies. That success resulted in back-to-back Pac-12 Coach of the Year honors. His Washington squads also went 10-1 against ranked teams, and he is 18-3 in playoff games as a head coach, including his stint at Sioux Falls.

God what a ****** coach
 
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BS85 said:
You are still wrong. And dopey.

Oh snap, burned

There is more to coaching than just "on-field", and I don't think anyone has said that Mario is some great on-field coach. He's never been a play-calling coordinator, so that is an area where he needs to hire well and delegate properly.

But there are other areas of coaching too, and I'm not just talking about recruiting.

Motivation, culture, discipline, morale, all of thoese areas are ones in which a head coach plays a huge role.

Three paragraphs to describe that coaches don't just coach on the field. Thanks for that.

Alabama failed to come back to beat Vanderbilt. Malachi Moore had multiple outbursts. So, you know, maybe we hold off on Deboer's Hall of Fame induction until he has proven what he can do at Alabama.

Mario might just be better at certain things than Deboer is, but all you small-sample-size/ignore-everything-else guys are so eager to swallow Deboer's balls that you won't listen to any other possibilities.

You say I'm focusing on a small sample size but then say he's not that great because he lost ONE game? You're not good at this.

Obviously, Miami should have hired one of those QB-whisperer/OC-playcalling geniuses...like Bily Napier...

I never said Mario was a bad hire, i liked the hire from the start because he can recruit and develop an o-line (my exact words pre hire). He's driven me nuts with some dumb **** but he works hard and the program is trending in the right direction which is awesome.

Guess what, i can like Mario but still think DeBoer is a better coach. He probably has the best resume I've ever seen. Please read even though you'll write 20 pages of word diarrhea about how much he sucks.

DeBoer accumulated a record of 104-12, which includes a 25-3 record in his previous stop with the Washington Huskies and three NAIA National Championships at Sioux Falls.
DeBoer has a 12-2 record against top-25 teams in his four seasons at Fresno State and Washington.
In 2023, he led Washington to the College Football Playoff National Championship Game with a victory over Texas in the Sugar Bowl. DeBoer's '23 group won the Pac-12 Championship and recorded the most wins in a season in program history (14). Additionally, he won the 2023 Associated Press, AFCA, Eddie Robinson, George Munger, Walter Camp, Sporting News and Home Depot Coach of the Year awards.

DeBoer became the first Washington coach to win 11-or-more games in consecutive seasons after going 11-2 in 2022 and 14-1 in 2023 and the first to win a bowl game in his first season with the Huskies. That success resulted in back-to-back Pac-12 Coach of the Year honors. His Washington squads also went 10-1 against ranked teams, and he is 18-3 in playoff games as a head coach, including his stint at Sioux Falls.

God what a ****** coach
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He already has a 7-page thesis drafted and ready to send on how Mario's record prior to 2024 didn't really count.
 
OldhamA said:
It's the same as whoever followed Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United - you were set up to fail, that man was a genius.
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It’s like trying to follow George Best at a pub. You’re not going to do anything the bartender hasn’t seen before.
 
OldhamA said:
It's the same as whoever followed Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United - you were set up to fail, that man was a genius.
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As of present time you still don't wanna follow Sir Alex Ferguson at ManU and his been gone for awhile now
 
If DeBoer beats Oklahoma and our crush, Hugh, their last game, they finish 10-2 in his first season.

After 10 games with a qb who can barely throw (but run really well) they are averaging a full touchdown more per game so far in comparison to last year, and their defense ppg allowed has sightly improved 1 ppg. Both units (scoring ppg) are in the top 10 in the country this year.

Did he inherit Sabans players and infrastructure ? Sure. But did he inherit losing 10 draft picks, 31 scholarship losses to the portal, and losing 10 total dbs ? Yep.

The guy lost NEARLY 50% of the magical Saban roster in year 1 and is 8-2 with the strong possibility of being 10-2. He’s doing this with basically a top 5/10 overall SOS.

Auburn has played better later in their season relative to the beginning (the dynamic between Freeze and DeBoer remains super interesting) and an upset could lessen the impact of these basic points. But if the regular season holds out like it should (10-2) with nearly half the roster gone from last year and a top 10 SOS it’s still super impressive as a year 1 coach with the insane pressure to follow Saban.

Again they could have a bad upset their last two games, but if it holds, given the challenges in following Saban, dealing with incredible roster loss, and having a very challenging schedule makes year 1 at a macro level so far look really good.
 
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HughFreezemyCuckoldYesPlz said:
If DeBoer beats Oklahoma and our crush, Hugh, their last game, they finish 10-2 in his first season.

After 10 games with a qb who can barely throw (but run really well) they are averaging a full touchdown more per game so far in comparison to last year, and their defense ppg allowed has sightly improved 1 ppg. Both units (scoring ppg) are in the top 10 in the country this year.

Did he inherit Sabans players and infrastructure ? Sure. But did he inherit losing 10 draft picks, 31 scholarship losses to the portal, and losing 10 total dbs ? Yep.

The guy lost NEARLY 50% of the magical Saban roster in year 1 and is 8-2 with the strong possibility of being 10-2. He’s doing this with basically a top 5/10 overall SOS.

Auburn has played better later in their season relative to the beginning (the dynamic between Freeze and DeBoer remains super interesting) and an upset could lessen the impact of these basic points. But if the regular season holds out like it should (10-2) with nearly half the roster gone from last year and a top 10 SOS it’s still super impressive as a year 1 coach with the insane pressure to follow Saban.

Again they could have a bad upset their last two games, but if it holds, given the challenges in following Saban, dealing with incredible roster loss, and having a very challenging schedule makes year 1 at a macro level so far look really good.
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Has Hugh learned to rush more than 2 guys when it’s 4th and forever and the game is on the line? If so, he might have a shot at beating Deboer this year.
 
HughFreezemyCuckoldYesPlz said:
If DeBoer beats Oklahoma and our crush, Hugh, their last game, they finish 10-2 in his first season.

After 10 games with a qb who can barely throw (but run really well) they are averaging a full touchdown more per game so far in comparison to last year, and their defense ppg allowed has sightly improved 1 ppg. Both units (scoring ppg) are in the top 10 in the country this year.

Did he inherit Sabans players and infrastructure ? Sure. But did he inherit losing 10 draft picks, 31 scholarship losses to the portal, and losing 10 total dbs ? Yep.

The guy lost NEARLY 50% of the magical Saban roster in year 1 and is 8-2 with the strong possibility of being 10-2. He’s doing this with basically a top 5/10 overall SOS.

Auburn has played better later in their season relative to the beginning (the dynamic between Freeze and DeBoer remains super interesting) and an upset could lessen the impact of these basic points. But if the regular season holds out like it should (10-2) with nearly half the roster gone from last year and a top 10 SOS it’s still super impressive as a year 1 coach with the insane pressure to follow Saban.

Again they could have a bad upset their last two games, but if it holds, given the challenges in following Saban, dealing with incredible roster loss, and having a very challenging schedule makes year 1 at a macro level so far look really good.
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#3 class in recruiting as of today too.
 
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HughFreezemyCuckoldYesPlz said:
If DeBoer beats Oklahoma and our crush, Hugh, their last game, they finish 10-2 in his first season.

After 10 games with a qb who can barely throw (but run really well) they are averaging a full touchdown more per game so far in comparison to last year, and their defense ppg allowed has sightly improved 1 ppg. Both units (scoring ppg) are in the top 10 in the country this year.

Did he inherit Sabans players and infrastructure ? Sure. But did he inherit losing 10 draft picks, 31 scholarship losses to the portal, and losing 10 total dbs ? Yep.

The guy lost NEARLY 50% of the magical Saban roster in year 1 and is 8-2 with the strong possibility of being 10-2. He’s doing this with basically a top 5/10 overall SOS.

Auburn has played better later in their season relative to the beginning (the dynamic between Freeze and DeBoer remains super interesting) and an upset could lessen the impact of these basic points. But if the regular season holds out like it should (10-2) with nearly half the roster gone from last year and a top 10 SOS it’s still super impressive as a year 1 coach with the insane pressure to follow Saban.

Again they could have a bad upset their last two games, but if it holds, given the challenges in following Saban, dealing with incredible roster loss, and having a very challenging schedule makes year 1 at a macro level so far look really good.
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**** I didn’t even think of it that way. Fair points there for sure.
 
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