Kaaya as the starter- Kind of long

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Barkley and Chad Henne are the only other two pro-style QB's at big time programs that I can remember starting as true freshmen and having success in like the last 15 years. I seem to remember Barkley being an early enrollee too.

And re-look at Barkley's alleged success. USC lost 4 or 5 games that year, including a lower tier bowl game.

Ohhh, I'm no Barkley fan at all and laughed at him as a NFL QB but they actually won their bowl game that year (against BC) and beat a top ten ranked O$U on the road. I think they beat a ranked Notre Dame on the road too. 4 losses in a decent PAC-10 that year would probably be equivalent to Kaaya as a starter only losing 2 ACC games this year- which we'd probably all take.

I still wonder why there wasn't a bigger push (aside from Pete sending weekly flowers) to get Kaaya in here as an EE. Also, a lot of you talking "spot duty" and such do realize that once a redshirt is lit on fire it can't be un-lit?
 
Barkley and Chad Henne are the only other two pro-style QB's at big time programs that I can remember starting as true freshmen and having success in like the last 15 years. I seem to remember Barkley being an early enrollee too.

And re-look at Barkley's alleged success. USC lost 4 or 5 games that year, including a lower tier bowl game.

And PC severely limited him and simplified the playbook during his freshman year. It's clear Kaya has the greater upside. But man, no matter how well he plays in camp, I would be uneasy starting him game one. I think Heaps needs to absolutely sh*t the bed over the next three weeks for that to happen.

I completely agree. I've long stated that true freshman starting QBs equate to a poor season. And as mentioned, it's exacerbated in a pro style offense, where you can't just get by on athleticism. I'd be **** near shocked if Kaaya starts at Louisville.

I was just addressing the imaginary claim that Golden intentionally starts seniors despite knowing that underclassmen are better. I don't buy it for a second. People just assume certain underclassmen are better.
 
Barkley and Chad Henne are the only other two pro-style QB's at big time programs that I can remember starting as true freshmen and having success in like the last 15 years. I seem to remember Barkley being an early enrollee too.

And re-look at Barkley's alleged success. USC lost 4 or 5 games that year, including a lower tier bowl game.

Ohhh, I'm no Barkley fan at all and laughed at him as a NFL QB but they actually won their bowl game that year (against BC) and beat a top ten ranked O$U on the road. I think they beat a ranked Notre Dame on the road too. 4 losses in a decent PAC-10 that year would probably be equivalent to Kaaya as a starter only losing 2 ACC games this year- which we'd probably all take.

I still wonder why there wasn't a bigger push (aside from Pete sending weekly flowers) to get Kaaya in here as an EE. Also, a lot of you talking "spot duty" and such do realize that once a redshirt is lit on fire it can't be un-lit?


I stand corrected. They beat an 8-4 BC team in the lowly Emerald Bowl. Regardless, 4 losses and an Emerald Bowl appearance was not a successful season for USC at that time with a roster littered with 4 and 5 stars and a top defense.

Bottom line that "success" is the exception that proves the rule: you don't want true freshman QBs leading your team, especially with a defense that is a sieve.
 
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