July 29, 2023 BBQ

I am not complaining about recruiting… what I am wondering is how we are defining “elite recruiter”?

Because to me an “elite recruiter” stacks top 5-10 talent - stack meaning more than one in row…

Point: Are we expecting too much of someone who has never done that?

And therefore we are seeing whining about the ranking…
Not a fan of a lot of your takes on the recruiting front, but I think this one is very fair.
 
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Not a fan of a lot of your takes on the recruiting front, but I think this one is very fair.
That's fair enough but winning programs sell themselves. Alabama in the middle of nowhere has some of the best facilities, good coaches,good strength and conditioning and etc. You don't go to tucaloosa to get a big city college experience football players go to get prepped for NFL play.
 
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We were 7-5 and told repeatedly any competent coach should win the coastal with that team and at Miami, with 9/10 win expectations….

Forgive those who may have thought Mario fit that description …
I know a lot of people wanted Mario to fired gattis during the season and maybe he should've. But the lack of depth, the coaching, and injury bug is what did Miami in. After middle Tennessee a lot of the guy that aren't here packed it in. I think this team should win 9 games the Texas am game will tell us who they are even tho it is early. Am offense is like our offense last year. They have a stout d line but the pass defense isn't great.
 
I am not complaining about recruiting… what I am wondering is how we are defining “elite recruiter”?

Because to me an “elite recruiter” stacks top 5-10 talent - stack meaning more than one in row…

Point: Are we expecting too much of someone who has never done that?

And therefore we are seeing whining about the ranking…
I just don’t understand how anyone can question his recruiting (elite or not) when you look at his whole career resume of kids he recruited, developed and sent to the NFL. Such a bizarre debate.
 
I just don’t understand how anyone can question his recruiting (elite or not) when you look at his whole career resume of kids he recruited, developed and sent to the NFL. Such a bizarre debate.
He is an elite recruiter. I don’t know how people complain about his recruiting of all things. If Dabo was our coach with his recruiting classes people would be crying.
 
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I just don’t understand how anyone can question his recruiting (elite or not) when you look at his whole career resume of kids he recruited, developed and sent to the NFL. Such a bizarre debate.

It’s a recruiting message board. Discussing current recruiting, the evolution of recruiting and the track record of recruiters doesn’t seem like an incredibly inappropriate topic…

Especially when one of the key strengths of the head coach is….. recruiting
 
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It’s a recruiting message board. Discussing current recruiting, the evolution of recruiting and the track record of recruiters doesn’t seem like an incredibly inappropriate topic…

Especially when one of the key strengths of the head coach is….. recruiting
I think Mario’s career track record is that of an elite recruiter. I also think it’s a very appropriate discussion on a Canes message board to talk about where things are right now, whether it hurts feelings or not.

Personally, unless Chance goes elsewhere, at this point in time Mario’s exceeded my expectations in WR recruiting. On the other hand, the DL recruiting has a couple of good pickups but isn’t where I had hoped it would be at this time. We know that DL was the focus. OL recruiting thus far is also a disappointment to me. We really need Ahfua and another 1-2 very solid guys on the OL. Selling the OL to any QB we are after in the future will be huge. We need to stack and we’re not doing that this class thus far.

July was the month I expected to see the results of our June visits. Today is the last day of July. I think @WeBallinBoyz posted stats regarding 70% or so of the top 100 being committed.

We’re also below 90 in our average 247 recruit ranking though that can increase. Even when schools like Clemson were ranked lower in years past because of the lower numbers of commits, their average was very high. Just observations.

All of this considered, we’re still in it for big targets which can change all this and Signing Day is still in December but some of you need to keep in mind that this is a message board and it’s plenty acceptable to discuss this snapshot in time in our recruiting and give opinions about it, including critical ones.
 
Why is everyone up in arms? Genuinely curious if something happened or if everyone is melting down because we didn't land a commit this weekend?
 
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@Andrew , we have a problem. Your pet attack bot is on the loose on the board like an alien invader. Wtf, are you messing with its code?
 
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I think Mario’s career track record is that of an elite recruiter. I also think it’s a very appropriate discussion on a Canes message board to talk about where things are right now, whether it hurts feelings or not.

Personally, unless Chance goes elsewhere, at this point in time Mario’s exceeded my expectations in WR recruiting. On the other hand, the DL recruiting has a couple of good pickups but isn’t where I had hoped it would be at this time. We know that DL was the focus. OL recruiting thus far is also a disappointment to me. We really need Ahfua and another 1-2 very solid guys on the OL. Selling the OL to any QB we are after in the future will be huge. We need to stack and we’re not doing that this class thus far.

July was the month I expected to see the results of our June visits. Today is the last day of July. I think @WeBallinBoyz posted stats regarding 70% or so of the top 100 being committed.

We’re also below 90 in our average 247 recruit ranking though that can increase. Even when schools like Clemson were ranked lower in years past because of the lower numbers of commits, their average was very high. Just observations.

All of this considered, we’re still in it for big targets which can change all this and Signing Day is still in December but some of you need to keep in mind that this is a message board and it’s plenty acceptable to discuss this snapshot in time in our recruiting and give opinions about it, including critical ones.
The excuse-making for this class has gotten way out of control.

I don’t think a single poster can objectively say this class is anywhere close to elite. It’s littered with projects and evaluations. I also don’t think anyone with a straight face can say this class is better than our in-state rivals, which is disappointing.

Two separate arguments here: if you want to say there’s still time to land blue-chips, then you are absolutely correct. Perfectly reasonable and we have no choice but to let it play out. If you want to say this class is a very good class that’s going to help us get back to winning 10 games, my opinion is absolutely the f^ck not. Not in its current state. Need at least five more guys ready to seriously impact the depth chart in 2024 for that to be the case.

We can put this rumor to bed though: Even Mario Cristobal is not an exception to a crappy 5-7 season. Even he and his recruiting prowess is not an exception to a bad football team, and thus will struggle a bit to bring in elite players until he wins more on the field.
 
@Andrew , we have a problem. Your pet attack bot is on the loose on the board like an alien invader. Wtf, are you messing with its code?
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Why are you out of your bot cage on the bot board? Why are you here?
 
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