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WeBallinBoyz said:
Then he’s getting fired. This isn’t a “oh go look for a job, but if you don’t get one you can always come back here.” 😂
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Well just fire him now because nobody is going to hire him and definitely not pay the buyout to get him. So all this is pointless
 
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ScharfCane said:
False. If we fire him before he gets the new gig, we are responsible for the buyout.

Buyout is effective until the person is hired by another institution while employed.
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You've seen the contract? That is not my understanding of how these buyouts typically work. The offset even happens after a firing. If that is true for this specific scenario, then of course if we can save some money and it is not affecting recruiting than keep him on to save some money. Again, that is just not my understanding how this works but happy to be proven wrong.
 
djnellz said:
Man, I get what you're saying, @Cane6 deadass.


But frfr, this **** is taking way too long. **** finding that bum a job, he couldn't do his job here, why find him another job and make us suffer and run offensive recruits away every second you hold on to the ***cboy GattAss, ESPECIALLY IF HE WASN'T EVEN A TOP 3 OPTION???

I'm normally one of the ones screaming patience, but **** that **** when it comes to GattAss. DJ Jazzy Jeff that neega already. I wanna see Mario do exactly that to him expeditiously.

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I thought this was posted by James Jackson brother for a sec
 
252cane said:
That’s not how it works. If he retains gattis there won’t be a announcement they will just go on like they have been
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Not saying theres going to be a press conference or anything. But he will announce his direction in some capacity.
 
252cane said:
Well just fire him now because nobody is going to hire him and definitely not pay the buyout to get him. So all this is pointless
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You’d be surprised. That’s why there’s a thing in this world called negotiations.
 
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ScharfCane said:
False. If we fire him before he gets the new gig, we are responsible for the buyout.

Buyout is effective until the person is hired by another institution while employed.
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Without having seen his contract, I am not sure that's right in most cases. Part of the reason fired head coaches go to schools (Bama) as analysts is because that role is not a coaching spot and they can double dip salaries. If they went as a coach then it would offset. Or at least that has been the working public knowledge. Of course Miami's legal department has screwed up plenty over the years, so god only knows what is in there.
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
You’d be surprised. That’s why there’s a thing in this world called negotiations.
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I seriously doubt he is in negotiations. He isn’t dropping to a lower level and the available oc jobs right now in the power 5 are gt, uk, and Louisville. If brohm is the guy at louisville he definitely ain’t going there and gt can’t pay him the type of money he would want. So if brohm leaves that means Purdue would be open and need a oc. So is uk going to take him?
 
252cane said:
I seriously doubt he is in negotiations. He isn’t dropping to a lower level and the available oc jobs right now in the power 5 are gt, uk, and Louisville. If brohm is the guy at louisville he definitely ain’t going there and gt can’t pay him the type of money he would want. So if brohm leaves that means Purdue would be open and need a oc
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You forgot another Big 10 team that is desperately seeking a OC change. One that is probably at the top of the list. Also, coaches aren’t done moving around.
 
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wspcane said:
Without having seen his contract, I am not sure that's right in most cases. Part of the reason fired head coaches go to schools (Bama) as analysts is because that role is not a coaching spot and they can double dip salaries. If they went as a coach then it would offset. Or at least that has been the working public knowledge. Of course Miami's legal department has screwed up plenty over the years, so god only knows what is in there.
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Excluding Dumbfuq Blake James giving a contract to Manny Diaz and paying a buyout to Temple, it’s my understanding that Miami is conservative with their coaches contracts and does a good job protecting itself

Gattis had a 2yr deal. The back and forth on what is owed to him is stupid and irrelevant

Most likely scenario - Miami is on the hook for any difference between his new salary and salary at Miami

Worst case - they owe him 1yr of salary IF he doesn’t coach (onfield) during the next 12 months

Either way, it’s an immaterial number, and has no bearing on Miami’s actions moving forward
 
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252cane said:
You think ferentz is going to fire his son?
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Might be one of those where he gets shuffled around, but they’ve brought in two Michigan players on offense already (including Cade)…there’s a lot of connections. Not saying it’s a sure thing, but it fits what they want to run up at Iowa.
 
ScharfCane said:
There is an advantage that you’re forgetting - if Gattis finds a new gig, Miami would not be responsible for his $1.8 mil buyout.

Mario is currently talking to candidates while gattis is doing the same at other schools. It’s just not released publicly due to contract purposes.
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Honest question, does it matter whether he finds that other position while still employed? Or does the salary offset still take place if he’s fired and then finds another job?
 
Cane6 said:
Excluding Dumbfuq Blake James giving a contract to Manny Diaz and paying a buyout to Temple, it’s my understanding that Miami is conservative with their coaches contracts and does a good job protecting itself

Gattis had a 2yr deal. The back and forth on what is owed to him is stupid and irrelevant

Most likely scenario - Miami is on the hook for any difference between his new salary and salary at Miami

Worst case - they owe him 1yr of salary IF he doesn’t coach (onfield) during the next 12 months

Either way, it’s an immaterial number, and has no bearing on Miami’s actions moving forward
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I am also thinking of the Adidas contract, lawsuits from two former coaches, etc.

I know nothing of the Gattis situation. I hope he is leaving, I think he is leaving, but I also do think that the court of public opinion is largely against Mario and his offense right now and it makes negative recruiting that much easier. However, we have adults in the room besides him in Zo and Rad. It has not impacted recruiting, no idea what impact it will have on portal guys, and I hope it does not cost us any OC targets.

Logically, it makes sense that Mario and co have a specific OC target in mind and the timeline is based on that person's availability and willingness to move. The flip side of that is our offense was such an abomination that this delay does make it fair game for questioning and criticism. I get both sides of this debate. Sometimes you do just need to rip the bandaid and not let things fester, and that is kind of where I am at.
 
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