Josh Gattis (before its deleted)

[TheOriginalCane]

Well that is one way to save $2mm.

Sure is. That's why it was NOT about the buyout...but it technically does impact the buyout...

 

[rsa coral gables]

Have you ever done this? This is nearly impossible. Cause is usually defined in a contract and I bet this one includes a definition of cause and I can assure you that the reasons listed above are not there. I’m not only an attorney but also run a company with over a thousand employees for quite some time and my family’s prior business had over 20k employees. I’m telling you that this just doesn’t happen especially at this level. If you have a way of doing this, please let me know because it would make my life a lot easier

it happens more often than what you say. there are morals clauses which are very broad and other for-cause termination provisions that schools rely on. here are a few examples

Michigan fires co-offensive coordinator Matt Weiss

Michigan has fired co-offensive coordinator Matt Weiss

www.wilx.com

Report: Jaguars Fired Urban Meyer For Cause - Sports Illustrated

Interesting.

www.si.com

ASU's fired football coach could be entitled to multimillion-dollar buyout, but NCAA probe might block it

Herm Edwards' dismissal could be complicated by pending investigation of football program for alleged recruiting violations.

www.12news.com

we don't know what gattis did or did not do, at least not yet, but we will

considering his character, he could have been insubordinate or failed to recruit or perform other obligatory functions/tasks or disrespectful or screwed a fellow worker against school policy or a million other things, all of which could constitute for-cause termination.

once you have a human being, the reasons can be endless

 

[We'retheBoss]

it depends on the facts. many times employees help you fire them for cause by doing stupid sh!!!t happens every day

maybe just maybe gattis f@@cked someone on staff and that was enough to fire him.

or he refused to recruit.

I dunno about staff, but he sure fooked our entire season

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Right. They were just keeping Manny around the entire time Mario was deliberating because they thought it would be funny.

You just keep proving your gullibility and naivete every time you porst.

Mario was not "deliberating". He specifically asked to be allowed to make a run at the Pac 12 championship and a Final Four slot, and for Miami not to do anything that would make that problematic. Which is why Miami retained Manny up until the point of announcing.

"They thought it would be funny". How dumb can you act (or be)? There were no "deliberations" that late in the season, Mario knew what he would decide, he'd already made all of his demands, and they were met. UM was not some random job, it was his alma mater.

Manny was fired in September and he knew it. His dad begged certain Trustees to allow his son to finish the season in order to get a good job elsewhere, and it obviously worked. You want me to show you my texts from September onward? You want me to turn back the clock and invite you to the Alonzo Zoom call?

The people who know, knew. But, hey, keep reading CaneSport and coming up with your dopey porsts.

 

[jme231]

it happens more often than what you say. there are morals clauses which are very broad and other for-cause termination provisions that schools rely on. here are a few examples

Michigan fires co-offensive coordinator Matt Weiss

Michigan has fired co-offensive coordinator Matt Weiss

www.wilx.com

Report: Jaguars Fired Urban Meyer For Cause - Sports Illustrated

Interesting.

www.si.com

ASU's fired football coach could be entitled to multimillion-dollar buyout, but NCAA probe might block it

Herm Edwards' dismissal could be complicated by pending investigation of football program for alleged recruiting violations.

www.12news.com

we don't know what gattis did or did not do, at least not yet, but we will

considering his character, he could have been insubordinate or failed to recruit or perform other obligatory functions/tasks or disrespectful or screwed a fellow worker against school policy or a million other things, all of which could constitute for-cause termination.

once you have a human being, the reasons can be endless

Herm Edwards was under investigation. Matt Weiss was under investigation by the police. If Gattis created bad offensive game plans that does not constitute for cause. If so, every coach would be fired for cause to avoid buyouts. It doesn’t happen often because it’s hard to do unless you actually have legitimate reasons.

 

[Damiencane86]

A recruit???

Probably a current player if anyone……….rhymes with bantz chilliams

 

[rsa coral gables]

Herm Edwards was under investigation. Matt Weiss was under investigation by the police. If Gattis created bad offensive game plans that does not constitute for cause. If so, every coach would be fired for cause to avoid buyouts. It doesn’t happen often because it’s hard to do unless you actually have legitimate reasons.

i dont recall anyone arguing that his work on the field could be cause to fire him unless of course he was told to do something and he refused to do it (whichi doubt because these contracts generally provide that an oc will have control of the offense, for example)

 

[jme231]

Herm Edwards was under investigation. Matt Weiss was under investigation by the police. If Gattis created bad offensive game plans that does not constitute for cause. If so, every coach would be fired for cause to avoid buyouts. It doesn’t happen often because it’s hard to do unless you actually have legitimate reasons.

and I hear you that we don’t know what he did. If he was sexually harassing people, sure that will qualify. So will prior violations at Michigan that came to light. But his performance (or lack thereof) here will not constitute for cause. If he wasn’t coming to work ever, then sure. If he refused to do his job ever, sure.

 

[UMFarArcher]

That’s not true. For cause is really difficult

Cause?

How about CAUSE he sucks?!!?

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Probably a current player if anyone……….rhymes with bantz chilliams

Take that to the Gaytor boards.

 

[jme231]

i dont recall anyone arguing that his work on the field could be cause to fire him unless of course he was told to do something and he refused to do it.

That’s exactly what he was stating. He said incompetence. That’s not for cause

 

[caneinpsl]

Isn’t that the young lady who the police dept ran thru?

I imagine she has a GAP in her employment history now......

 

[jme231]

That’s exactly what he was stating. He said incompetence. That’s not for cause

He also stated poor job performance. Again, neither of those rise to that level.

 

[rsa coral gables]

That’s exactly what he was stating. He said incompetence. That’s not for cause

i re-read it. you are correct. his coaching incompetence or poor performance are not a for-cause reason.

 

[clg003]

started talking shiat to a recruit about F Miami. then took off when he got confronted about it.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Coverups can be infectious...

I think Poggi was smart to GTFO of Ann Arbor...

At the time I posted this, I wasn't sure if it was a "Michigan" issue or a "Miami" issue...

But I was trying to hint that multiple Michigan Men have had problems or have problems...

 

[wnycanesfan]

Yea she served.

So how did that come about did she just walk into the break room in the Police Department and go hey guys I have a great idea for a team building exercise?

 

[caneinpsl]

His option at this point is save face and walk away / leave or be fired with cause. The clock is now ticking.

Look at you tossing a rib roast into a pen full of rabid starving dogs.

In my dorkiest, high pitched voice. Best. Insider Evvver!!!!

 

[TrumpyCane]

TrumpyCane predicts Saban rehab in store for Gattis

 

[TheOriginalCane]

TrumpyCane predicts Saban rehab in store for Gattis