Josh Gattis (before its deleted)

[kccanefan]

Some of y’all really have no common sense, if it’s to the buyout stage and even with a hang up you really think Mario is going be like no problem come back my guy? Get real

I was referring to it truly even being in the buyout stage. Our insiders have been telling us he's gone or it's done for weeks now. Well, what is true? If it was done this buyout stage would have already been handled. That was were my perspective is.

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

What ******* games are you watching?

We went 24 quarters (and 10 in a row) without scoring. That's a special kind of ineptitude.

 

[canesfanmpls]

Serious question. I read somewhere he was hired in 02/22. Would the holdout in making changes have anything to do with financially waiting till 02/23. Maybe stupid question but I’ll hang up and listen.

 

[Rod Is Godly]

We went 24 quarters (and 10 in a row) without scoring. That's a special kind of ineptitude.

24 quarters is quite literally half of the season considering there’s 12 games… Jesus Christ

 

[JD08]

assuming you can overcome the hurdle of constructive termination, which would be difficult, does the program really want Gattis around? even in a film closet? that isn't the way to operate a first class organization and certainly not Mario's alleged manner of conducting business.

No, but it's an effective negotiating option.

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

I was referring to it truly even being in the buyout stage. Our insiders have been telling us he's gone or it's done for weeks now. Well, what is true? If it was done this buyout stage would have already been handled. That was were my perspective is.

Not to mention, some of the same insiders said Cormani was still coming here and that the delay was related to transcripts and/or sabotage from his old high school. I'm still hoping that Gattis is on his way out the door but I'm basically Steve Austin at this point: Don't Trust Anyone.

 

[dk72]

If this is a $/buyout issue, get ready for posturing and delays but in no way will this end with Gattis as our OC next year. What, he’s supposed to be missing in action now, not meeting with new players, and then, when negotiations officially break down, the “best” result is that he remains a lame duck OC? Yeah, don’t see it. I do think this stretches the timeline though.

Exactly. I cant see a situation where they have a guy run our offense when that person knows they want him gone, and when he's only here instead of taking another job so he can collect the paycheck. There would be no expectation or trust by the staff and players that anything he does at that point would be to the teams benefit.

 

[dk72]

Idk why, their offense the last two years improved a lot under Enos and locksley.

Under Locksley. Enos was dead weight.

 

[MiamisMoperiestMopes]

Wasn’t the buyout/Michigan buyout stuff on an Alex Donno podcast yesterday? Also a porster on 24/7 was saying the same thing yesterday about it being buyout related.

 

[Cane44]

this is big boy CFB.. all the other big dogs are eating multi million dollar buyouts all over the place... Mario f*cked up and made a bad hire and cost... UM needs to eat it and get this guy out of town already.... UM looking shady with contracts and payouts aint a good look for coaching searches... first the golden mess and now potentially this if it gets messy...

 

[hurricaneman]

There is so much that doesn't add up when it comes to these coordinators. Both offseason and during the season. I don't know how you can avoid the possibility that there is a major flaw with Mario when it comes to this area of coaching.

If you go with the simplest explanation, I would guess that Mario cares infinitely more about recruiting and assumes coordinators are a dime a dozen, IF the players are in place. I don't think the "process" is about due diligence. If it was, given everything we now know, he wouldn't have hired Gattis. I think the "process" is Mario focusing on recruiting as long as he possibly can and making decisions on the staff as an after thought.

 

[rsa coral gables]

No, but it's an effective negotiating option.

Gattis and his "peoples" have to know that that suggestion is nothing but a bluff. I know i wouldn't suggest it because it shows weakness.

 

[rsa coral gables]

There is so much that doesn't add up when it comes to these coordinators. Both offseason and during the season. I don't know how you can avoid the possibility that there is a major flaw with Mario when it comes to this area of coaching.

If you go with the simplest explanation, I would guess that Mario cares infinitely more about recruiting and assumes coordinators are a dime a dozen, IF the players are in place. I don't think the "process" is about due diligence. If it was, given everything we now know, he wouldn't have hired Gattis. I think the "process" is Mario focusing on recruiting as long as he possibly can and making decisions on the staff as an after thought.

i think he hired Gattis because Gattis was the best available 10th option. Hopefully Mario has learned a lesson because the heartburn is heavy. it destroyed a season, effected recruiting and tainted his first year

 

[Mackmiller974]

Y’all are confusing me. Maryland averaged their lowest PPG this season since 2017(if you don’t include the 2020, 5 game season).

For context, Dan Enos averaged 27 PPG in his one year here and we all absolutely despised him. But now averaging 27 PPG this year at Maryland is some grand achievement????

That's false. Maryland standards and our standard are different but it was 28.2 PPG. Here's Maryland PPG since 2011

2022 28.2 Enos
2021 29.3 Enos
2020 23.6 Enos 1st year covid
2019 25.2
2018 28.5
2017 24.1
2016 25.8
2015 24.4
2014 28.4
2013 26.2
2012 20.2
2011 23.1

 

[Mackmiller974]

Under Locksley. Enos was dead weight.

Didn't Enos call plays and was the QB coach?

 

[Marcelo2988]

There is so much that doesn't add up when it comes to these coordinators. Both offseason and during the season. I don't know how you can avoid the possibility that there is a major flaw with Mario when it comes to this area of coaching.

If you go with the simplest explanation, I would guess that Mario cares infinitely more about recruiting and assumes coordinators are a dime a dozen, IF the players are in place. I don't think the "process" is about due diligence. If it was, given everything we now know, he wouldn't have hired Gattis. I think the "process" is Mario focusing on recruiting as long as he possibly can and making decisions on the staff as an after thought.

It is quite concerning.

How does he not realize recruiting is affected by this?

Either he does and he's stubborn or he doesn't and he's clueless.

Both are red flags IMO

 

[tsimonitis]

 

[hurricaneman]

i think he hired Gattis because Gattis was the best available 10th option. Hopefully Mario has learned a lesson because the heartburn is heavy. it destroyed a season, effected recruiting and tainted his first year

But that's potentially a product of not focusing on coordinator hires and waiting until the only option is your 10th best.

I do wonder if he would benefit from having an assistant head coach (if he doesn't already).

 

[JD08]

Gattis and his "peoples" have to know that that suggestion is nothing but a bluff. I know i wouldn't suggest it because it shows weakness.

I've heard stories of people sending envelopes with a blank sheet of paper via certified mail to claim they sent legal notices. Nothing surprises me with either the dishonesty or ineptitude of attorneys.

 

[Home Slice]

So it's Friday, January 20th and Gattis is still our OC. Bottom line for now.