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TitansHope said:
people moaning about run-first offenses (which, to be clear, we weren’t even under gattis) and then saying they want someone from the shanahan or mcvay tree lmao. so many of you guys genuinely do not have a clue what you watch every fall saturday
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Well obviously, those guys teams play their games on Sundays
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TitansHope said:
people moaning about run-first offenses (which, to be clear, we weren’t even under gattis) and then saying they want someone from the shanahan or mcvay tree lmao. so many of you guys genuinely do not have a clue what you watch every fall saturday
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Under Gattis we had a balanced offense - bottom of the barrel at everything
 
AlphaMarshan said:
Gattis is horrible but I still maintain D'Onofrio is still the worst coordinator I have ever seen in college football. Ever.

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He broke out the old protractor and compass to line them up with the best angles to make a tackle.
 
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Memnon said:
The difference is...

Lashlee’s Offense for it’s flaws, maximized the deficiencies of the roster, he could take an Offense with mostly mid-tier 3-star kids & still produce multiple 400+ yard games & average 34 ppg.

Gosh Jattis Offense exacerbated the deficiencies of the roster & made them worse.

If your Offense can’t function unless it has over 30+ 5-star caliber players on it, then you’re not a good Coach.
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Why are we doin this? One OC parlayed his success into a Head Job (SMU), and the other OC won’t be able to parlay this season into a head job from 1 star recruit’s mom, Yes Lashlee’s O left a lot to be desired (running game), and would get his **** kicked in by any defense with a pulse….. but GattASS was leading one of the worst UM offenses of all time and we’ve been playing football at this school since at least 1926. That’s a long gah**** time….
 
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KANE said:
Why are we doin this? One OC parlayed his success into a Head Job (SMU), and the other OC won’t be able to parlay this season into a head job from 1 star recruit’s mom, Yes Lashlee’s O left a lot to be desired (running game), and would get his **** kicked in by any defense with a pulse….. but GattASS was leading one of the worst UM offenses of all time and we’ve been playing football at this school since at least 1926. That’s a long gah**** time….
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Don’t explain that to me, tell that to them...

Apparently I must live in bizarro upside down world or something, so idk even know anymore 🤷🏽‍♂️ lol
 
TitansHope said:
people moaning about run-first offenses (which, to be clear, we weren’t even under gattis) and then saying they want someone from the shanahan or mcvay tree lmao. so many of you guys genuinely do not have a clue what you watch every fall saturday
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Shanahan I agree, McVay tho?
 
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McVay probably ran a lot more when he had Gurley. But last year, they were #2 in calling pass plays on early downs. In total in 2021, they passed 59.1% of the time
 
Bender said:
Shanahan I agree, McVay tho?
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yes. mcvay himself is a shanahan disciple. both he and kyle cut their teeth under shanahan senior in Washington. it’s all heavy play-action based on wide zone. difference is mcvay had a better QB than kyle shanahan has had, his OL was not a great run blocking unit last year, his RBs were mid, and cooper kupp was going god mode so they started to pass more than usual, which was a good adjustment. obviously each guy has his own wrinkles but fundamentally that system revolves around the run game.
 
KANE said:
Why are we doin this? One OC parlayed his success into a Head Job (SMU), and the other OC won’t be able to parlay this season into a head job from 1 star recruit’s mom, Yes Lashlee’s O left a lot to be desired (running game), and would get his **** kicked in by any defense with a pulse….. but GattASS was leading one of the worst UM offenses of all time and we’ve been playing football at this school since at least 1926. That’s a long gah**** time….
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Memnon said:
Don’t explain that to me, tell that to them...

Apparently I must live in bizarro upside down world or something, so idk even know anymore 🤷🏽‍♂️ lol
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Tell that to who?? Maybe I missed it but I haven’t seen one person say that Gattis is a better OC than Lashlee. Are we making up arguments that don’t exist?

We all want him gone, it’s literally the first thing in CIS history that we all agree on
 
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TitansHope said:
yes. mcvay himself is a shanahan disciple. both he and kyle cut their teeth under shanahan senior in Washington. it’s all heavy play-action based on wide zone. difference is mcvay had a better QB than kyle shanahan has had, his OL was not a great run blocking unit last year, his RBs were mid, and cooper kupp was going god mode so they started to pass more than usual, which was a good adjustment. obviously each guy has his own wrinkles but fundamentally that system revolves around the run game.
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McVay sets up the run with the pass. In terms of play philosophy, yes, similar, but how they do it is completely different.

McVay is heavily depending on 11 personnel and the usage of the passing game prior to using various zone concepts in an attempt to soften defenses with personnel and play tendencies. Which is kinda what we need more, not fully, but kinda.

Shanahan runs the ball much more and in much bigger variety. He is an outlier in the league because he runs so much 21 personnel because he has a FB/H-Back who can do many things. But there is more power, more pulls from guards and tackles, more sweeps and screens with Aiyuk and Samuel, etc.

The fact that Shanahan is producing these numbers tho is kinda telling about his schematic ability. The offense hasn't missed a beat with Brock Purdy and thats really impressive.

We need someone to dictate defenses and their personnel. I dont want to see condensed formations and loaded boxes on 3rd and short where you desperately try to force something up the middle. Its 2022, throw the **** ball.

Riley is the perfect guy that this offensive personnel needs. A good blend of schematic ability, fundamental plays and ability to dictate and setup defenses.
 
Memnon said:
Don’t explain that to me, tell that to them...

Apparently I must live in bizarro upside down world or something, so idk even know anymore 🤷🏽‍♂️ lol
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It wasn't meant for you. I was having a hard time trying to figure out why were we arguing about who was better. lol
 
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