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Canesfan1899 said:
carolinacane said:
Jesus, these forums are super homophobic.
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How, nobody said its immoral or anything, simply stated sucking a **** shouldn't get you an award.
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I think some of you are overestimating how much being homosexual is accepted. I think something like 75% of Americans are Christian, and homosexuality is something the bible doesnt speak fondly of. Thats a large segment of the population who is taught to think being *** is wrong. Im happy for Michael Sam, he broke a barrier that somebody needed to break. in the end it doesnt need to be either or, im happy for Sam, and i hope Kelly beats his fight with cancer.
 
the fact that michael sam receiving an award and everybody's minds on here going straight to male on male **** sucking action concerns me a little...

he 100% deserved the award. this isn't about the award, it's about the people out there that decide that it is totally acceptable to be *** and not ashamed of it.
 
ProjectMKUltra5 said:
I think some of you are overestimating how much being homosexual is accepted. I think something like 75% of Americans are Christian, and homosexuality is something the bible doesnt speak fondly of. Thats a large segment of the population who is taught to think being *** is wrong. Im happy for Michael Sam, he broke a barrier that somebody needed to break. in the end it doesnt need to be either or, im happy for Sam, and i hope Kelly beats his fight with cancer.
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not 100% of christians think its a sin. ****, my family is catholic and most of them don't care
 
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Vanquish9 said:
the fact that michael sam receiving an award and everybody's minds on here going straight to male on male **** sucking action concerns me a little...

he 100% deserved the award. this isn't about the award, it's about the people out there that decide that it is totally acceptable to be *** and not ashamed of it.
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Lol. The fact is he received an award for who he chooses to have *** with. No more no less.
 
ProjectMKUltra5 said:
I think some of you are overestimating how much being homosexual is accepted. I think something like 75% of Americans are Christian, and homosexuality is something the bible doesnt speak fondly of. Thats a large segment of the population who is taught to think being *** is wrong. Im happy for Michael Sam, he broke a barrier that somebody needed to break. in the end it doesnt need to be either or, im happy for Sam, and i hope Kelly beats his fight with cancer.
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Correct, I dug this up.

The Bible doesn't speak of homosexuality very often; but when it does, it condemns it as sin. Let's take a look.

•Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
•Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
•1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
•Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

The thing is we all sin, and no sin is greater than another.

My issue again, is I don't care to have what someone does in the privacy of their bedroom driven down my throat by the left leaning media outlets. I surely don't know of any other sin that is praised and approved of as being a homosexual. Look at how politicians are crucified for extra marital affairs, or whatever Congressman Weiner was caught doing.

I surely don't need the the media outlets telling me what is right and wrong and what I have to accept.
 
MS would've been living a lie in the NFL, the same as he had until the day he came out. Considering he's the only one to have done so at the NFL level, you'd have to be naive as **** to think that isn't a courageous move. If it didn't take courage, why hasn't another done so yet?

To those saying you don't care what someone does in their bedroom, neither do I. Having said that, this wasn't about what he does in his bedroom, it's about not living a lie. It's telling those around him who he is. Now he'll be able to live out there in the world the way he wants, not just behind closed doors. I'm glad he did it, what a relief it must be for him although he'll still have hurdles along the way.

This is most certainly an interesting thread and it's apparently bothersome for a good many posters. Insecure much?
 
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INCaneFan said:
MS would've been living a lie in the NFL, the same as he had until the day he came out. Considering he's the only one to have done so at the NFL level, you'd have to be naive as **** to think that isn't a courageous move. If it didn't take courage, why hasn't another done so yet?

To those saying you don't care what someone does in their bedroom, neither do I. Having said that, this wasn't about what he does in his bedroom, it's about not living a lie. It's telling those around him who he is. Now he'll be able to live out there in the world the way he wants, not just behind closed doors. I'm glad he did it, what a relief it must be for him although he'll still have hurdles along the way.

This is most certainly an interesting thread and it's apparently bothersome for a good many posters. Insecure much?
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Its not bothersome or makes anyone insecure. Nice reach The determining factor that you don't live a lie is broadcast it and make a spectacle of it? Really? Being open with your friends and family isn't enough?

Some guys can't be monogamous, so they should be open and celebrate that publically? Will the media be throwing them a parade?
 
Ok Sam, line up, play ball, do your job. Now that I know you are *** no suspect ****......end of story.

But the media wants us to be apart of it to so it was headline news. At the end of the day, his teammates are the only ones that have to deal with it. If he can play, nobody cares.
 
Miami82 said:
ProjectMKUltra5 said:
I think some of you are overestimating how much being homosexual is accepted. I think something like 75% of Americans are Christian, and homosexuality is something the bible doesnt speak fondly of. Thats a large segment of the population who is taught to think being *** is wrong. Im happy for Michael Sam, he broke a barrier that somebody needed to break. in the end it doesnt need to be either or, im happy for Sam, and i hope Kelly beats his fight with cancer.
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Correct, I dug this up.

The Bible doesn't speak of homosexuality very often; but when it does, it condemns it as sin. Let's take a look.

•Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
•Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
•1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
•Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

The thing is we all sin, and no sin is greater than another.

My issue again, is I don't care to have what someone does in the privacy of their bedroom driven down my throat by the left leaning media outlets. I surely don't know of any other sin that is praised and approved of as being a homosexual. Look at how politicians are crucified for extra marital affairs, or whatever Congressman Weiner was caught doing.

I surely don't need the the media outlets telling me what is right and wrong and what I have to accept.
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Some sins are definitely greater than others, such as murder for instance. You are correct that Christianity views homosexuality as a sin. However just because 3/4 of all Americans believe it's a sin doesn't mean that those people are homophobic; After all Half America is Liberal also. Still this was important, not because of how it will affect the team and the NFL, but how it affects those that are ***, and feel that they can't be themselves because they won't be accepted. They see that this *** guy playing the most manly sport in the world is being accepted by his teammates, and maybe that will give them the confidence to come out, and stop hiding who they are. But this really won't affect the NFL, I mean it might be different to get used to at first, but it's not like he's Jackie Robinson out there either. Sam definitely deserved this award. Kelly should have got the Perseverance award (But Stuart Scott is going through similar stuff too.)
 
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Miami82 said:
ProjectMKUltra5 said:
I think some of you are overestimating how much being homosexual is accepted. I think something like 75% of Americans are Christian, and homosexuality is something the bible doesnt speak fondly of. Thats a large segment of the population who is taught to think being *** is wrong. Im happy for Michael Sam, he broke a barrier that somebody needed to break. in the end it doesnt need to be either or, im happy for Sam, and i hope Kelly beats his fight with cancer.
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Correct, I dug this up.

The Bible doesn't speak of homosexuality very often; but when it does, it condemns it as sin. Let's take a look.

•Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
•Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
•1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
•Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

The thing is we all sin, and no sin is greater than another.

My issue again, is I don't care to have what someone does in the privacy of their bedroom driven down my throat by the left leaning media outlets. I surely don't know of any other sin that is praised and approved of as being a homosexual. Look at how politicians are crucified for extra marital affairs, or whatever Congressman Weiner was caught doing.

I surely don't need the the media outlets telling me what is right and wrong and what I have to accept.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Miami82 again.

Killing it dude.
 
calinative umstudent said:
Miami82 said:
ProjectMKUltra5 said:
I think some of you are overestimating how much being homosexual is accepted. I think something like 75% of Americans are Christian, and homosexuality is something the bible doesnt speak fondly of. Thats a large segment of the population who is taught to think being *** is wrong. Im happy for Michael Sam, he broke a barrier that somebody needed to break. in the end it doesnt need to be either or, im happy for Sam, and i hope Kelly beats his fight with cancer.
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Correct, I dug this up.

The Bible doesn't speak of homosexuality very often; but when it does, it condemns it as sin. Let's take a look.

•Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
•Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
•1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
•Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

The thing is we all sin, and no sin is greater than another.

My issue again, is I don't care to have what someone does in the privacy of their bedroom driven down my throat by the left leaning media outlets. I surely don't know of any other sin that is praised and approved of as being a homosexual. Look at how politicians are crucified for extra marital affairs, or whatever Congressman Weiner was caught doing.

I surely don't need the the media outlets telling me what is right and wrong and what I have to accept.
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Some sins are definitely greater than others, such as murder for instance. You are correct that Christianity views homosexuality as a sin. However just because 3/4 of all Americans believe it's a sin doesn't mean that those people are homophobic; After all Half America is Liberal also. Still this was important, not because of how it will affect the team and the NFL, but how it affects those that are ***, and feel that they can't be themselves because they won't be accepted. They see that this *** guy playing the most manly sport in the world is being accepted by his teammates, and maybe that will give them the confidence to come out, and stop hiding who they are. But this really won't affect the NFL, I mean it might be different to get used to at first, but it's not like he's Jackie Robinson out there either. Sam definitely deserved this award. Kelly should have got the Perseverance award (But Stuart Scott is going through similar stuff too.)
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False. All sins carry the same weight bro. Mike being ***, and me day dreaming of banging another women while married holds the same weight.

Issue here is we are awarding a blatant sin. Sandusky made his love interest known, where he at right now?
 
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Who the **** posts bible verses on a football board? Get this religion **** outta here...
 
DHucks said:
calinative umstudent said:
Miami82 said:
ProjectMKUltra5 said:
I think some of you are overestimating how much being homosexual is accepted. I think something like 75% of Americans are Christian, and homosexuality is something the bible doesnt speak fondly of. Thats a large segment of the population who is taught to think being *** is wrong. Im happy for Michael Sam, he broke a barrier that somebody needed to break. in the end it doesnt need to be either or, im happy for Sam, and i hope Kelly beats his fight with cancer.
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Correct, I dug this up.

The Bible doesn't speak of homosexuality very often; but when it does, it condemns it as sin. Let's take a look.

•Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
•Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
•1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
•Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

The thing is we all sin, and no sin is greater than another.

My issue again, is I don't care to have what someone does in the privacy of their bedroom driven down my throat by the left leaning media outlets. I surely don't know of any other sin that is praised and approved of as being a homosexual. Look at how politicians are crucified for extra marital affairs, or whatever Congressman Weiner was caught doing.

I surely don't need the the media outlets telling me what is right and wrong and what I have to accept.
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Some sins are definitely greater than others, such as murder for instance. You are correct that Christianity views homosexuality as a sin. However just because 3/4 of all Americans believe it's a sin doesn't mean that those people are homophobic; After all Half America is Liberal also. Still this was important, not because of how it will affect the team and the NFL, but how it affects those that are ***, and feel that they can't be themselves because they won't be accepted. They see that this *** guy playing the most manly sport in the world is being accepted by his teammates, and maybe that will give them the confidence to come out, and stop hiding who they are. But this really won't affect the NFL, I mean it might be different to get used to at first, but it's not like he's Jackie Robinson out there either. Sam definitely deserved this award. Kelly should have got the Perseverance award (But Stuart Scott is going through similar stuff too.)
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False. All sins carry the same weight bro. Mike being ***, and me day dreaming of banging another women while married holds the same weight.

Issue here is we are awarding a blatant sin. Sandusky made his love interest known, where he at right now?
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This has turned from "Jim Kelly deserves the award over Sam because he was a better player" to comparing being *** to what Sandusky did? WTF?!?! That's a dumb post.

*** being considered a sin is what bible thumpers use as an excuse to hate. Being *** doesn't make you a child molester, that is just stupid.
 
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