Jaden Harris #7

[Calinative]

I've seen this sentiment across this thread and I just think it's wrong -- changing to soft zones, making teams go down the field 5-10 yards at a time etc is the exact opposite of what this team should be doing. of course 50-70 yard TDs need to be cut down drastically but we want Cam to have the ball as much as possible. asking teams to march down the field is just allowing them to control the clock and maximizes the amount of time the defense is on the field. obviously, that's the opposite of what we want, which is for our offense to be on the field.

clearly games like UF or USF where we're scoring 40-50 points and winning by 20-30 points are ideal, but if we're going to be in close games we want them to be 38-34 type shootouts where teams have to match our QB and WRs and not 28-24 slogs where our defense is playing safe and letting possessions be squeezed out of the game.

I disagree, the last thing you want when you have an elite offense is to make it easy as **** for opposing teams to score TDs. You're basically assuming that our defense could just get dinked and dunked the full length of the field for like 6+ possessions a game without getting stops. Every drive that ends in a FG or less significantly increases our likelihood of winning due to our offensive firepower. I very much doubt many teams would be able to just have multiple 75+ yard drives of just getting 5-10 yards a pop on us. The most important reason being that we just are more talented plus our DLine is by far the strength of our D. I'd count on them making at least a handful or two of impactful plays per game that put the opposing offense in a corner. What we need is to not be putting ourselves in the situation where we are totally reliant on a safety making a 1v1 tackle on the RB outside the numbers with absolutely no help.

Our Defense plays good on like 90% of plays. Over the last 3 games teams are averaging 5.7 yds/play against us (like 73rd in country over that span). That is mostly because of how many 20+ yard plays we are allowing. Over the last 3 games we have allowed 15 total 20+ yard plays, 5 of which were 50+ yarders (4 of them against Cal!). Yet we're allowing like legit <57% comp% and <33% 3rd down conv%....

Regardless HOW it is done, we need to cut opponents big play rate in half. It's going to be difficult to do that without it leading to giving up some longer drives. But if that's the tradeoff it is fine if at the end of the day we are still holding them to a FG or less.... If we were being aggressive and could tackle so these huge plays we were giving up weren't happening THIS often, I'd be fine with it. My goal is just to limit the agressiveness enough so that rate gets cut in half. From there I think we are good.

 

[Calinative]

Dyoni Hill being held. No call

...What was Popo doing?

 

[E1k]

Guidry needs to stop putting our safeties 7/0 in man coverage. Opposing offenses are looking and scheming for those matchups.

Guidry Must play more 2 and 3 deep zone and blitz less. Our front 4 can apply pressure without blitzing.

The other coaches get paid too man, eventually they will be in 1on1 situations they just have to be better and win those reps at some point

 

[E1k]

Thank god for mesidor because look at there, mama there goes that man. Jaden Harris coming to fvck sh^t up on defense once again….

This is on meesh, the way we just dont set the edge of the defense kills me man. This is manny level **** bruh

 

[88]

Cool, did he answer where the **** Harris was going on the play? Because I still don't know lol

Safety covering the flat in cover three isn’t outrageous. For all we know Baron screwed up. Pointless blaming players without knowing responsibilities.

 

[nycane]

he makes mistakes but u can tell he plays at a different speed

kiko misses tackles, misreads plays, etc and people give a senior a pass but we dissect popo? lol

 

[E1k]

...What was Popo doing?

If meesh sets keeps the edge there, kinda how dyoni did, popo or someone else makes the play at a 7-8 yard gain

 

[E1k]

no he has not

Idk how yall watching and don’t think he has not, its minimal snaps but i think yall are blaming him for **** thats not his fault

 

[canes732]

Him starting tells u about the rest of the room, meesh was bad this game too. Rotate 15 in but we need our starters to just get better

Zay might be getting the start sooner rather then later

 

[CaneThang2020]

Not his best game - he tightened up when he had too. It’s the gambling “make a play” mentality that we have to get away from. Bad angles are part of the game, every player does it.

By far the worse play for me is the gamble he made when he had deep responsibilities and left his area of coverage to play Dyoni’s area - leaving no one to defend the go route.

I’ve gotta believe that our guys routinely do this during practice and he’s just one of the guys that “do it less” often than the others - hence why he’s in the game with this stuff happening. Also believe this is why we’re throwing numbers at the DB position - get more guys in the room and eventually someone will play assignment based football instead of this hero football stuff that gets us burned every time

 

[canes732]

The other coaches get paid too man, eventually they will be in 1on1 situations they just have to be better and win those reps at some point

Agreed but we are 0 blitzing wayyyyy too much. We have a supposed great front 4 rushing the passer well treat it that was and play coverage

 

[brock]

This is on meesh, the way we just dont set the edge of the defense kills me man. This is manny level **** bruh

The angle Harris took was terrible

 

[San Amaro Dr]

Hill got caught looking inside but I bet he was probably shocked that Harris ran himself into no man's land for absolutely no reason. There was 2 guys on that side of the field, the WR who was covered by Baron and the TE. I still don't know what Harris is thinking crashing hard on the fake bubble screen action. He saw the TE actually running a route instead of blocking and he knew he ****ed up lol

If he’s thinking about Harris or what Ruben Bain had for breakfast is exactly why it’s Hill’s fault here. Do your job. If he has leverage that ball likely doesn’t get thrown or at worst the guy is on the ground. You can ask Harris in film why he did what he did is the point.


This team has seem good defensive stats other than giving up explosive plays. A lot of them have been blown assignments. Can’t afford that down the stretch.

 

[Dre]

I've seen this sentiment across this thread and I just think it's wrong -- changing to soft zones, making teams go down the field 5-10 yards at a time etc is the exact opposite of what this team should be doing. of course 50-70 yard TDs need to be cut down drastically but we want Cam to have the ball as much as possible. asking teams to march down the field is just allowing them to control the clock and maximizes the amount of time the defense is on the field. obviously, that's the opposite of what we want, which is for our offense to be on the field.

clearly games like UF or USF where we're scoring 40-50 points and winning by 20-30 points are ideal, but if we're going to be in close games we want them to be 38-34 type shootouts where teams have to match our QB and WRs and not 28-24 slogs where our defense is playing safe and letting possessions be squeezed out of the game.

I'm very high on our front 4. I think at some point they make a play that puts teams in a 3rd and 10+ and we halt more drives than we allow long possessions.

 

[JHallCanes]

kiko misses tackles, misreads plays, etc and people give a senior a pass but we dissect popo? lol

Nah people wanted to bench Kiko for Popo the week before

Also I think I’m just gonna use their real names when I put them together in a post because saying Kiko and Popo together sounds pretty ***

 

[Warrior808]

I believe it was #7 who also got left in the dust on Otts 5yrd touchdown run. Had a clear shot in the backfield and Ott just gave a little shoulder fake and ran right past him to the corner of the endzone.

 

[ScubaCane]

He's just not good enough, just doesn't seem to be a willing tackler, which is desperately needed in this secondary.

 

[edge]

Clearly the defense needs to stop giving up big plays. I do find the picking apart of players fascinating. It's football man. No matter how good you are and how bad the other teams are, mistakes will happen. No reason to dive into every single nuance of every play. The back end as a whole just needs to get better. Make it happen Guidry.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

Clearly the defense needs to stop giving up big plays. I do find the picking apart of players fascinating. It's football man. No matter how good you are and how bad the other teams are, mistakes will happen. No reason to dive into every single nuance of every play. The back end as a whole just needs to get better. Make it happen Guidry.

What do you think coaches and players literally do?

Guidry and Jackson sit in a room with the DBs and they watch, rewatch, re-rewatch, and talk about every single snap. Eye in the sky don't lie. You are who you put on film. Now, if you're talking about killing a player for one bad play, then of course I agree with you. Everyone has a bad rep, that's why there are 10 other dudes out there to cover your *** (goodness, absolutely NO diddy). But there's nothing wrong with breaking down film. And if you make mistake after mistake after mistake, you can't play here.

 

[Cribby]

I didn’t think it was possible to be more sickened by the defense after VT but they proved me wrong against Cal. The back 7 looked like they were in cement shoes when 1 v 1 in space. It was pathetic.