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Ivins Update (Dare I Ask?)

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NorthEastCane said:
There was noise in one of the threads that got nuked that it may have been his coach. If he was a Gator homer as a different thread suggest, it's not unreasonable to believe it went from him to Bama/UF to Wilfong.
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This is more likely. Marshall tells Miami coaches he's going to commit, Palmetto coach finds out and he gives Saban a heads up, Saban/Bama frantically contact Marshall to get him to at least delay committing.

Any other school and Saban would probably just move on to the next top-100 guy on his list, but he knows if Miami can land guys like Williams, Taylor, and Marshall, things in South Florida will get much tougher for him in a hurry.

Hopefully our staff can continue to work their magic though. They already beat UGA head to head for a 5*. Now time to to the same to Bama
 
Canes2082 said:
Theyre saying when a CB is logged its actually on central time because of where their HQ is located.

So if thats the case. Manny tweeted at 1154am
And 247 guys 1117am central 1217 eastern
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You can't go based on that.

For most of my career I've audited WAN networks for several Fortune 500 companies and timestamping is based on the architectural design of the network and significantly the location of the servers. Additionally, if the sequencing of transactions are critical, the application that processes the transaction/message also needs to be designed to record the time zone of the originating transaction.

I've received e-mails from Europe and Asia and the Exchange servers (there were several in the chain) would present the e-mails in my mailbox in local time. Apache servers running websites would do the same unless configured otherwise. They would most likely default to the system clock of the machine that the back-end DBMS is running on.

In short, you can't assume that because the HQ is located in CDT that the date stamp of the message on the web sever was also CDT.
 
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TheRichtShow said:
No, just say it. Was Ivins told Marshall was committing that day and asked to keep it quiet?

If so, that's scummy. It also almost certainly didn't happen because it makes zero sense for Ivins to burn his Miami sources.

I hate this, "it will all come out." Either you have a story to tell or you dont. The "a 247 journalist prevented Jason Marshall from being a Cane" is very weak though without more behind it. It's the biggest decision of his life, if a journalist predicting where he was going to go in advance literally changed his decision, Marshall is never going to be handle adversity anyways. I don't think that's true though, and it's bizarre to me you'd even suggest it.
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So - you want him to do something that (according to your own words) “makes no sense?” That makes sense.
 
NorthEastCane said:
You can't go based on that.

For most of my career I've audited WAN networks for several Fortune 500 companies and timestamping is based on the architectural design of the network and significantly the location of the servers. Additionally, if the sequencing of transactions are critical, the application that processes the transaction/message also needs to be designed to record the time zone of the originating transaction.

I've received e-mails from Europe and Asia and the Exchange servers (there were several in the chain) would present the e-mails in my mailbox in local time. Apache servers running websites would do the same unless configured otherwise They would most likely would default to the system clock of the machine that the back-end DBMS is running on.

In short, you can't assume that because the HQ is located in CDT that the date stamp of the message on the web sever was also CDT.
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So what your saying is the person logging the ball is the time in which it shows based on their location
 
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Ecush said:
You don't owe me or anyone answers, but why are we mad at Ivins and not whoever leaked the info to him. You have said Ivins is out of the loop so he had to get his info somewhere..... @Dr.L.ThugU insists Ferman has all of the contacts in Coral Gables and he tipped off Ivins.

Someday I hope you share more of the details because right now it seems like everyone is freaking out over what doesn't seem like that big of a deal. Admittedly I don't know the whole story so maybe more detail would make it seem like more obvious of a shiit show.
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We should be mad at both. We just didn't have any clear indication who leaked. Regardless, as in all opportunist, Ivins used it to his advantage without any consideration how it would affect anyone else.

That's the definition of a scumbag.
 
Cribby said:
Yet you still came in and read it , then took the time to post in it. Say hi to ivins for me.
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Chill out Cribby. I have been nothing but supportive of you. but yeah 4 days of this **** has be spinning. Now don’t go picking Fights with everyone we don’t know
 
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Cribby said:
It wasn’t a bagman that found out and called, it was the lead bagman that found out and called “Nick Saban”. He asked him to not commit and wait a little longer. Obviously his hs coach agreed and joined in.
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****, that is not good news and does not bode well for us.
I hope he stills signs here but I’ve seen this story played out a lot over the years and usually does not end well for UM. I’m still holding out hope though.
 
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Canes2082 said:
So what your saying is the person logging the ball is the time in which it shows based on their location
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What I'm saying is when you log onto a website and look at the transaction date of the message, the website will present to you the date and time that it knows about. That's usually recorded in another backend e-mail server or database server. If the website's server (and back end servers) are in Alpharetta, GA, the system clock will most likely record in EST. If the website server is in Bangalore, India, the system clock will record in their local time. If the transaction originates remotely, the transaction system may or may not use conversion routines to translate between different time zones for the user. It all depends. That's why without knowing more, we can't make any conclusions.
 
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hoops156 said:
so wait bc bama called now he wont come? whats exactly going on? even committed, bama wasnt gonna just say no thanks to him till NSD.
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Even for Bama, it's harder to flip someone than get them to commit up front (or maybe I should say more costly). It also diverts their attention from others they're trying to recruit/flip.
 
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NorthEastCane said:
Even for Bama, it harder to flip someone than get them to commit up front (or maybe I should say more costly). It also diverts their attention from others they're trying to recruit/flip.
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they had no issues stealing dudes from us over the years. if bama wants someone badly, they usually dont strike out
 
SSCane said:
****, that is not good news and does not bode well for us.
I hope he stills signs here but I’ve seen this story played out a lot over the years and usually does not end well for UM. I’m still holding out hope though.
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@Cribby has said a few times that Marshall's family aren't bag chasers. 🤷🏿‍♂️
 
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Bama has stolen from every top school but is afraid of Miami :hunt-dog-lol:

Then again is this is the same group of idiots that thought Bama was afraid of playing Miami in the orange bowl last season :laughing-1:

Bama has taken top kids in Louisiana from LSU and taken Mississippi kids from Mississippi schools but Saban is so shook of Miami that is making Marshall the highest paid recruit ever!!!

One more thing, none of you really care about the kids having his "moment", a bunch of kids commitments have been spoiled none of yall have 2 *****
 
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hoops156 said:
they had no issues stealing dudes from us over the years. if bama wants someone badly, they usually dont strike out
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That's right. But maybe Manny is figuring it out and they're having it this year. Regarding Marshall, it appears we were an after thought then his imminent commitment caught them by surprise.
 
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NorthEastCane said:
That's right. But maybe Manny is figuring it out and they're having it this year. Regarding Marshall, it appears we an after thought then his imminent commitment caught them by surprise.
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yes it may have but it doesnt mean that Nick would've stopped recruiting him
 
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