Is VT defense legit?

[FullyERicht]

I dont understand everyone thinking Logan Thomas is getting better each year. His numbers are worse every year. They are on pace to be slightly better this year than last year, but that is because he had such a huge dropoff from his sophomore year.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/480239/logan-thomas

I'm not looking at stats. I'm watching him play. And his last two games have been very good. Whitfield has done a nice job with him because he's starting to look like he did two years ago when everyone had their tongues up his ***.

This one will be an absolute war. Does VT play any good ACC teams other than us?

No they don't. Unfortunately we cannot afford to lose to them, bc they will not lose another ACC game, and even if we beat FSU in tally, they would hold a tie breaker over us with a head to head win. The VT game is actually the most important game of the season now. God forbid they had to play FSU or CU.

 

[JHallCanes]

Our bye weeks are poor this year. Prior to SSU and UNC while we have FSU and VT back to back. Ugh.

I disagree about the UNC one.

Coming into the season that looked genius. We don't want to be playing them on a short week in their house. That's always very difficult.

 

[The Franchise]

I dont understand everyone thinking Logan Thomas is getting better each year. His numbers are worse every year. They are on pace to be slightly better this year than last year, but that is because he had such a huge dropoff from his sophomore year.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/480239/logan-thomas

I'm not looking at stats. I'm watching him play. And his last two games have been very good. Whitfield has done a nice job with him because he's starting to look like he did two years ago when everyone had their tongues up his ***.

This one will be an absolute war. Does VT play any good ACC teams other than us?

No. Assuming we beat them, they'll finish 10-2, 7-1.

Pitt always plays them tough so that might be their only other roadblock.

 

[Notsince1985]

I dont understand everyone thinking Logan Thomas is getting better each year. His numbers are worse every year. They are on pace to be slightly better this year than last year, but that is because he had such a huge dropoff from his sophomore year.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/480239/logan-thomas

I'm not looking at stats. I'm watching him play. And his last two games have been very good. Whitfield has done a nice job with him because he's starting to look like he did two years ago when everyone had their tongues up his ***.

This one will be an absolute war. Does VT play any good ACC teams other than us?

No. Assuming we beat them, they'll finish 10-2, 7-1.

Pitt always plays them tough so that might be their only other roadblock.

It's in Blacksburg and I still think Pitt sucks. They have Pitt and Duke at home, the @BC before they play us. After us they have Maryland at home and @UVA. This has to be one of the easiest schedules in major college football. I know they played Bama, so at least that, but they don't get Clemson. They don't get FSU.

 

[Jmhcane]

I dont understand everyone thinking Logan Thomas is getting better each year. His numbers are worse every year. They are on pace to be slightly better this year than last year, but that is because he had such a huge dropoff from his sophomore year.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/480239/logan-thomas

I'm not looking at stats. I'm watching him play. And his last two games have been very good. Whitfield has done a nice job with him because he's starting to look like he did two years ago when everyone had their tongues up his ***.

This one will be an absolute war. Does VT play any good ACC teams other than us?

No. Assuming we beat them, they'll finish 10-2, 7-1.

Pitt always plays them tough so that might be their only other roadblock.

It's in Blacksburg and I still think Pitt sucks. They have Pitt and Duke at home, the @BC before they play us. After us they have Maryland at home and @UVA. This has to be one of the easiest schedules in major college football. I know they played Bama, so at least that, but they don't get Clemson. They don't get FSU.

see Louisville......

 

[Consigliere]

This game is so far away and so much could happen between now and then. It is one thing to root against VT and hope they get another loss, so you feel some more comfort when we play them but it is another to just fear us having success (and there is a major difference).

VT is 2-0 in the conference, ignoring our game they have 5 other games to play. They shouldn't be too overconfident regarding their schedule.

IMO they have a top notch defense and an okay offense with no real running threat that features a QB who can have a pretty good game SOMETIMES.

 

[valid]

VT will have their hands full against Pitt. Yes, Pitt.

We need to take care of business against UNC. Thursday night road games still worry me.

 

[mossmadness]

I dont understand everyone thinking Logan Thomas is getting better each year. His numbers are worse every year. They are on pace to be slightly better this year than last year, but that is because he had such a huge dropoff from his sophomore year.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/480239/logan-thomas

I'm not looking at stats. I'm watching him play. And his last two games have been very good. Whitfield has done a nice job with him because he's starting to look like he did two years ago when everyone had their tongues up his ***.

This one will be an absolute war. Does VT play any good ACC teams other than us?

I've watched every VT game this year, except the one against whatever mid-major they blew out.
Thomas has played better the last two games relative to his earlier performances, in which he was one of the worst QBs in all of college football. But he still hasn't played that great. Without a running game, and with those WRs, they need him to play even beyond how he played 2 years ago to really put points on the board. They need a Johnny Football type performance from him week in and week out. And he can't do that.

 

[Cribby]

Yes , Thomas has improved. He went from being a complete abortion to looking like an average qb.

 

[TheEye]

Miami can afford to play conservatively and will run away with it in the second half. UF's defense outmatches Vt's D.

 

[poncho0091]

I dont understand everyone thinking Logan Thomas is getting better each year. His numbers are worse every year. They are on pace to be slightly better this year than last year, but that is because he had such a huge dropoff from his sophomore year.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/480239/logan-thomas

I'm not looking at stats. I'm watching him play. And his last two games have been very good. Whitfield has done a nice job with him because he's starting to look like he did two years ago when everyone had their tongues up his ***.

This one will be an absolute war. Does VT play any good ACC teams other than us?

I'm not looking at only stats either, I just wanted to provide some extra evidence of his decline. I agree that he has looked better the last couple games, but thats 2 games. I could just as easily say he looked like absolute trash against scrubs like Marshall and ECU. He is pretty inaccurate and at times relies on his run game too much. At best he's inconsistent with the potential to have big games. He can be a playmaker, but he can also be a scrub. Lets see if they are in sync when we play them.

 

[pcitycane]

VT will have their hands full against Pitt. Yes, Pitt.

We need to take care of business against UNC. Thursday night road games still worry me.

aint worried bout nuttin

 

[dudenate]

Our bye weeks are poor this year. Prior to SSU and UNC while we have FSU and VT back to back. Ugh.

Morris and R. Scott disagree.

 

[SmokeyRone]

They are NOT better than UF's D by a long shot.

 

[The Franchise]

I dont understand everyone thinking Logan Thomas is getting better each year. His numbers are worse every year. They are on pace to be slightly better this year than last year, but that is because he had such a huge dropoff from his sophomore year.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/480239/logan-thomas

I'm not looking at stats. I'm watching him play. And his last two games have been very good. Whitfield has done a nice job with him because he's starting to look like he did two years ago when everyone had their tongues up his ***.

This one will be an absolute war. Does VT play any good ACC teams other than us?

I've watched every VT game this year, except the one against whatever mid-major they blew out.
Thomas has played better the last two games relative to his earlier performances, in which he was one of the worst QBs in all of college football. But he still hasn't played that great. Without a running game, and with those WRs, they need him to play even beyond how he played 2 years ago to really put points on the board. They need a Johnny Football type performance from him week in and week out. And he can't do that.

They need him to be Johnny Fckball every week to win? How'd they beat the **** out of GT and UNC with him not playing like that? To beat the teams on their schedule all he has to do is play like he's played the last two weeks. If you don't think he's played well the last two weeks (not in comparison to his prior abysmal play), then you're watching someone different than I am.

 

[Consigliere]

I dont understand everyone thinking Logan Thomas is getting better each year. His numbers are worse every year. They are on pace to be slightly better this year than last year, but that is because he had such a huge dropoff from his sophomore year.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/480239/logan-thomas

I'm not looking at stats. I'm watching him play. And his last two games have been very good. Whitfield has done a nice job with him because he's starting to look like he did two years ago when everyone had their tongues up his ***.

This one will be an absolute war. Does VT play any good ACC teams other than us?

I've watched every VT game this year, except the one against whatever mid-major they blew out.
Thomas has played better the last two games relative to his earlier performances, in which he was one of the worst QBs in all of college football. But he still hasn't played that great. Without a running game, and with those WRs, they need him to play even beyond how he played 2 years ago to really put points on the board. They need a Johnny Football type performance from him week in and week out. And he can't do that.

They need him to be Johnny Fckball every week to win? How'd they beat the **** out of GT and UNC with him not playing like that? To beat the teams on their schedule all he has to do is play like he's played the last two weeks. If you don't think he's played well the last two weeks (not in comparison to his prior abysmal play), then you're watching someone different than I am.

IMO VT only needs to put up 21 points to win with that defense. LT doesn't need to be Johnny at all, he isn't counted on like that. VT needs their offense though to put up some points because the defense can't win the game itself.

LT has played well the last two weeks.

 

[The Franchise]

I dont understand everyone thinking Logan Thomas is getting better each year. His numbers are worse every year. They are on pace to be slightly better this year than last year, but that is because he had such a huge dropoff from his sophomore year.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/480239/logan-thomas

I'm not looking at stats. I'm watching him play. And his last two games have been very good. Whitfield has done a nice job with him because he's starting to look like he did two years ago when everyone had their tongues up his ***.

This one will be an absolute war. Does VT play any good ACC teams other than us?

I'm not looking at only stats either, I just wanted to provide some extra evidence of his decline. I agree that he has looked better the last couple games, but thats 2 games. I could just as easily say he looked like absolute trash against scrubs like Marshall and ECU. He is pretty inaccurate and at times relies on his run game too much. At best he's inconsistent with the potential to have big games. He can be a playmaker, but he can also be a scrub. Lets see if they are in sync when we play them.

He completed 75% against UNC and 68% against UNC and averaged about 250 yards passing in those 2 games with 4 TDs and, most importantly, 0 INTs. I keep hearing that they have no receivers, but they must have a few for him to put up those numbers against decent ACC competition. Byrn and Knowles both look like pretty good receivers to me. Not great, but they're far from awful.

I think you guys are underestimating that team. That's all. If you want to keep thinking they stink go ahead. I hope you're right because I hate them.

 

[The Franchise]

I dont understand everyone thinking Logan Thomas is getting better each year. His numbers are worse every year. They are on pace to be slightly better this year than last year, but that is because he had such a huge dropoff from his sophomore year.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/480239/logan-thomas

I'm not looking at stats. I'm watching him play. And his last two games have been very good. Whitfield has done a nice job with him because he's starting to look like he did two years ago when everyone had their tongues up his ***.

This one will be an absolute war. Does VT play any good ACC teams other than us?

I've watched every VT game this year, except the one against whatever mid-major they blew out.
Thomas has played better the last two games relative to his earlier performances, in which he was one of the worst QBs in all of college football. But he still hasn't played that great. Without a running game, and with those WRs, they need him to play even beyond how he played 2 years ago to really put points on the board. They need a Johnny Football type performance from him week in and week out. And he can't do that.

They need him to be Johnny Fckball every week to win? How'd they beat the **** out of GT and UNC with him not playing like that? To beat the teams on their schedule all he has to do is play like he's played the last two weeks. If you don't think he's played well the last two weeks (not in comparison to his prior abysmal play), then you're watching someone different than I am.

IMO VT only needs to put up 21 points to win with that defense. LT doesn't need to be Johnny at all, he isn't counted on like that. VT needs their offense though to put up some points because the defense can't win the game itself.

LT has played well the last two weeks.

True.

 

[mossmadness]

I dont understand everyone thinking Logan Thomas is getting better each year. His numbers are worse every year. They are on pace to be slightly better this year than last year, but that is because he had such a huge dropoff from his sophomore year.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/480239/logan-thomas

I'm not looking at stats. I'm watching him play. And his last two games have been very good. Whitfield has done a nice job with him because he's starting to look like he did two years ago when everyone had their tongues up his ***.

This one will be an absolute war. Does VT play any good ACC teams other than us?

I've watched every VT game this year, except the one against whatever mid-major they blew out.
Thomas has played better the last two games relative to his earlier performances, in which he was one of the worst QBs in all of college football. But he still hasn't played that great. Without a running game, and with those WRs, they need him to play even beyond how he played 2 years ago to really put points on the board. They need a Johnny Football type performance from him week in and week out. And he can't do that.

They need him to be Johnny Fckball every week to win? How'd they beat the **** out of GT and UNC with him not playing like that? To beat the teams on their schedule all he has to do is play like he's played the last two weeks. If you don't think he's played well the last two weeks (not in comparison to his prior abysmal play), then you're watching someone different than I am.

Read the part where I said "To really put points on the board."
They put 27 on a BAD UNC defense. One of those was with a muffed punt that gave them the ball on like the UNC 20 yard line.
They put 17 on a BAD GT defense. One of those was off a Vad Lee fumble that put them somewhere inside the GT 30 yard line.
With the way he is playing now, which is fine, not great, but its efficient, and mistake free, they are going to score between 14 and 28 points a game against BAD defenses, and with some turnovers to help set them up in short yardage.

 

[The Franchise]

I dont understand everyone thinking Logan Thomas is getting better each year. His numbers are worse every year. They are on pace to be slightly better this year than last year, but that is because he had such a huge dropoff from his sophomore year.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/480239/logan-thomas

I'm not looking at stats. I'm watching him play. And his last two games have been very good. Whitfield has done a nice job with him because he's starting to look like he did two years ago when everyone had their tongues up his ***.

This one will be an absolute war. Does VT play any good ACC teams other than us?

I've watched every VT game this year, except the one against whatever mid-major they blew out.
Thomas has played better the last two games relative to his earlier performances, in which he was one of the worst QBs in all of college football. But he still hasn't played that great. Without a running game, and with those WRs, they need him to play even beyond how he played 2 years ago to really put points on the board. They need a Johnny Football type performance from him week in and week out. And he can't do that.

They need him to be Johnny Fckball every week to win? How'd they beat the **** out of GT and UNC with him not playing like that? To beat the teams on their schedule all he has to do is play like he's played the last two weeks. If you don't think he's played well the last two weeks (not in comparison to his prior abysmal play), then you're watching someone different than I am.

Read the part where I said "To really put points on the board."
They put 27 on a BAD UNC defense. One of those was with a muffed punt that gave them the ball on like the UNC 20 yard line.
They put 17 on a BAD GT defense. One of those was off a Vad Lee fumble that put them somewhere inside the GT 30 yard line.
With the way he is playing now, which is fine, not great, but its efficient, and mistake free, they are going to score between 14 and 28 points a game against BAD defenses, and with some turnovers to help set them up in short yardage.

Not sure what "to really put up points" means or what it has to do with anything. They put more than enough points to win. And that's all that matters. Doesn't matter if you score them throwing a beautiful tight spiral on an 80 yard pass, or if you block a punt or run in a pick 6. When you play D like they do, you don't need to put up 35 points a game to win.