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Is the glass half-full, or half-empty?

OrangeBowlMagic said:
I always laugh when people say things in absolutes like "we will never".

98% of this board had never heard of Cam Ward a year ago today. Then we got the best QB in program history. So it's amusing when people say we'll never get a player like "insert player here" when we literally have that player today.
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Yeah I said as much to @DMoney. We may not get another Cam Ward (it's only one of him) but I refuse to believe we can't get another QB that has a Cam Ward level impact and will have to settle on the current qb's being bandied about (Meteer, Bailey, Mendoza, etc.). I truly believe a couple unexpectant qb's will enter portal that no one has a clue about.
 
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3/4 empty as of today.

Said it when Diaz got fired for Cristobal- recruiting at Miami isn’t the same as recruiting at Oregon with unlimited NIL. Cristobal’s lack of game day coaching ability was already notorious across cfb. Inexcusable losses every single year. You knew what you were getting. Diaz was in his first HC gig. Maybe he pans out maybe he doesn’t. He did a **** fine job at Duke this year.

The hope with Cristobal is he would recruit like Butch Davis and build a team that was idiot-proof. That was the main justification for firing a first time coach with a winning record and paying 2.5x as much for Cristobal.

If he isn’t landing top classes there is little point in keeping him. We are playoff bubble team with huge NIL resources but our class isn’t looking like it will crack the top 12. Maybe he pulls a rabbit out of a hat and closes with a bunch of surprise 5 stars. But doesn’t seem likely right now. I’m not saying it’s over yet- we technically have a small chance of still making the playoffs and improving on the recruiting front. Id say playoffs and the #10 class would be a good year (playoffs offset the relative disappointment of not getting a top 6 class after 10-11 win season).

And if Cristobal gets Mateer (who has two years of eligibility), then I’d be almost aa optimistic as when we got Cam Ward. If miracle happens and we get Mateer and Jeremiah Smith, recruiting class is mostly irrelevant this year and Cristobal absolutely earned his paycheck and I’d be a glass full kind of guy.
 
HurricanesR1 said:
I answered a similar question earlier. Unlike other teams, we don't have much to fall back on.

We didn't beat any elite or highly ranked teams. We paid for a pretty stacked roster and played much weaker opponents yet right now, we beat no ranked teams and lost to two that were unranked.

Two of those unranked teams we beat were only wins because of wild comebacks and helpful officiating.
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My bad, I didn't see your earlier response.

I gotcha and fair point. I just believe you have to play your schedule and refuse to believe that the SEC/BIG narrative that they're conference is head and shoulders above everyone else. Plus, those pre-season rankings are often skewed with conference bias and hard to get past once the season begins.
 
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With all the bitter disappointment, this fact might be worth mentioning:

The 2024 Miami Hurricanes are exactly TWO PLAYS away from being 12-0 right now.

Two plays, one play vs GT and one play vs Cuse. That’s the difference today between 10-2, missing out on the ACC title game and playoff, and being 12-0.

Doesn’t really make me feel any better, but those are the facts.
 
I feel like we have a Jagerbomb. Sounds good but the hangover after a loss sucks. Either way, the glass is half full.
 
Ward was great for us, but stat wise (2nd/3rd quarters) you can't convince me we lose 4 more games without him.
Do I get to add a certain HOF'er at safety and say IF we had him, we would be undefeated? Stupid, right?

In 2022, I wanted an ACC 'ship and a playoff appearance year 3, period.
No "sliding" allowed due to crappy results year 1 and year 2.

We were up by 7 at the half.
All we had to do was win the second half of the game where we excelled and our opponent was average, at best.
We did not.

Right now, it's half empty.
 
ddann said:
With all the bitter disappointment, this fact might be worth mentioning:

The 2024 Miami Hurricanes are exactly TWO PLAYS away from being 12-0 right now.

Two plays, one play vs GT and one play vs Cuse. That’s the difference today between 10-2, missing out on the ACC title game and playoff, and being 12-0.

Doesn’t really make me feel any better, but those are the facts.
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You know what's coming, don't you?
 
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Caneadian said:
All we had to do is beat GT or Syr and all of this is moot. That's it. Yeah winning is hard blah blah blah.
# 1 offense in the country, there should be enough with the rest of the team to get that done.

Somewhere, something is off. Maybe we need an on campus stadium?
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say the same for every other team is the country. Coulda, woulda, shoulda but it only means something for Miami?
 
Damiencane86 said:
Our SOS was 54th. Literally not mathematically weaker than most.
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Compare it to other playoff teams, specifically other 2-loss teams like Georgia, Tennessee, Ohio St.

My entire point here was Miami's 2 losses were not comparable to many others that are in the playoff picture. Yeah, our SOS is better than non P4 teams, obviously. I'm comparing Miami to the programs we should be on par with.
 
HurricanesR1 said:
Compare it to other playoff teams, specifically other 2-loss teams like Georgia, Tennessee, Ohio St.

My entire point here was Miami's 2 losses were not comparable to many others that are in the playoff picture. Yeah, our SOS is better than non P4 teams, obviously. I'm comparing Miami to the programs we should be on par with.
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We've played all our toughest games on the road. And rankings are automatically skewed to favor the SEC. Ga Tech is better than plenty of higher ranked SEC squads.
 
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Quarter full. Last 2 recruiting cycles have been excellent. This one is appearing to be not so much.

Comes down to the firing of Guidry and his replacement as well as how well the Canes keep the talent they want from leaving via the portal and bringing in the talent they want via the portal.

Going off how he did in the last offseason, Cristobal provides hope in that area.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Thanks.

I was really ****ed and disappointed on Saturday, and I still am. But I'm over 40 years old, I really try to look big-picture in everything in life, sports fandom included. If you get too high or too low, it can get dangerous. So I took a couple days to process, and wrote what I did, but I know a lot of other people have really solid opinions and talking points as well. I was genuinely curious how others felt. I know there are always going to be miserable people here, and everywhere in life, that if they hit the lottery they'd be ****ed that you paid them only in hundreds and not twenties and fifties. Just the way it is. I try to not pay those people any mind, although this board does make that difficult. So, sifting through the "This guy Mario ******* SUCKS!!" posts, it's been nice to hear from a lot of people on this thread and others who I see making coherent, rational posts all the time on here.

Starting with Year 2 at both Oregon and Miami, Mario is now 26-8 at Oregon and 17-8 at Miami. That's 43-16 as a Power head coach once you get him to Year 2. If you look at only Year 3, he's 22-4. So clearly he doesn't suck. But it's fair to think what the ceiling might be. Losing 5 games as a double-digit favorite in 3 years just can't happen. Especially when 2 of those are in Year 3 here with the best offense in America. So again, all that bull**** to say, I'm genuinely torn about how to feel to this point.
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Quite welcome - it was well deserved.
Also, the humor in BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati talking about sanity and maturity is not lost on me.
 
JayCane20 said:
Everyone with 10+ wins escaped at least 2 games. Most needed coaching blunders or calls to win them. Can’t find an example to the contrary in the P4

That’s just how it works. Winning is hard
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how many of them played wire to wire conference games against teams with bad offenses (we let up over 30 a game and only 1 team up until Cuse averaged more than 30 in conference). thats the issue with our season. It was as one hit wonder as the 17 year
 
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our glass is in the process of being re-filled. Hard for me to say if until we empty the juice container. we have some milestones upcoming that will determine how much juice we add to the glass (ESD, Portal, Corching moves).
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I tend to look at betting markets for a lot of things, but of course they can be wrong, and often are. They're basically setting a market for what they think a room full of people will think. It's not easy.

HOWEVER, that being said, we're not even the 2nd likeliest team to make the playoffs out of the bubble teams, nevermind the first.

Alabama is -105 to make the playoff right now at Draftkings
South Carolina is +370
Miami is +800

That's a **** of a disparity. Again, they can be wrong. But we're a very significant dog to get in if you look at the market.
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True, but DraftKings isn’t in the CFP committee room, so in essence, they’re just guessing. Of course, SMU has to beat Clemson and if they do that, I believe we’re the second team in from the ACC. Of course, what do I know but that’s what I think.
 
JayCane20 said:
Everyone with 10+ wins escaped at least 2 games. Most needed coaching blunders or calls to win them. Can’t find an example to the contrary in the P4

That’s just how it works. Winning is hard
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Oregon is the only undefeated team yet struggled out of the gate for a month and was close to losing at Wisconsin three weeks ago. The Ducks could’ve easily lost to Ohio State. It’s not like they dominated the Suckeyes. Taint was about 10-15 yards from a reasonable FG try to win the game as time ran out.
 
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TemplarCane said:
Oregon is the only undefeated team yet struggled out of the gate for a month and was close to losing at Wisconsin two weeks ago. They just cut they could’ve easily lost to Ohio State. It’s not like they dominated the Suckeyes. Taint was about 10-15 yards from a reasonable FG try to win the game as time ran out.
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Winning. Is. Hard.

We have sucked for twenty (20) years. But if we don’t go undefeated, the whole program is in a death spiral and can’t ever recover 😂

If only really fully convinced of 2 things:

1. Guidry has to go
2. We need a massive talent upgrade in the secondary

Everything else is up in the air. We obviously need a lot of things, including a replacement for Cam, but I’m not convinced we can’t with Emory and/or we won’t get a high level portal kid. I just know the above 2 things are non-negotiable. If both of those things don’t happen, my glass is half empty and it’s got a leak at the bottom.
 
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