Interesting Tidbit From Scout

[DeadPoets]

Agree with lamp and think if kehoe was to go they would let him retire instead of firing him.

Kehoe ain't going nowhere. He was made the scapegoat during the Coker era & Golden knows that.
1) the OL isn't the problem with this team
2) that's a risky move by Golden to fire a guy who's been here for all 5 titles when it's your sorry a$$ defense stinking it up

 

[L A M P]

the OL isn't the problem with this team

Correct.. It isn't the problem.. but you are fooling yourself if you don't think it's a large part though.

 

[DaU83]

This is Al Golden's scheme.

This is Al Golden's scheme.

This is Al Golden's scheme.

This is Al Golden's scheme.

This is Al Golden's scheme.

This is Al Golden's scheme.

This is Al Golden's scheme.



Unless Al has decided to totally scrap the defense he's been running for over a decade, scapegoating the DC probably isn't going to change much. Before anything drastic happens schematically, Golden has to decide that he can't install his defense successfully.

I think that's the funniest part of all the "Fire D'Onof" threads.... this is what Al Golden wants to run... D'Onof does not have unilateral control over the defense.

 

[Ernie McCracken]

This is Al Golden's scheme.

This is Al Golden's scheme.

This is Al Golden's scheme.

This is Al Golden's scheme.

This is Al Golden's scheme.

This is Al Golden's scheme.

This is Al Golden's scheme.



Unless Al has decided to totally scrap the defense he's been running for over a decade, scapegoating the DC probably isn't going to change much. Before anything drastic happens schematically, Golden has to decide that he can't install his defense successfully.

Woah, head buzz.

Anyway, it's not just about the scheme, it's about D'Onofrio being able to teach the scheme. Who's to say we don't get a Mike London in here who runs the exact same scheme but maybe he is a better teacher and can have guys in the right position etc.

What I don't want to see happen is to have us move back to a Randy Shannon 4-3, or to change our philosophy too much, because we haven't been recruiting for that. It will set us back another 2 years while we have to re-build AGAIN.

 

[Ernie McCracken]

the OL isn't the problem with this team

Correct.. It isn't the problem.. but you are fooling yourself if you don't think it's a large part though.

I think our OL is fine.

The problem is Morris holding on to the ball for too **** long.

Look at tape from the FSU game. Every time Winston has the ball, you can count down like clockwork "one missisippi, two mississippi, three" and the ball is either out of his hands, or he takes off running. That kid has a fantastic sense of how long he's held on to the ball. (The only time in the game he held on to the ball longer than that, he threw a pick to Deon Bush).

Now look at Stephen Morris in the same game. He NEVER holds the ball shorter than 3 seconds. Sometimes, he'll hold the ball TWICE as long.

Think about what you're asking the offensive line to do. They have to stay on blocks twice as long because your QB can't make reads quick enough. On top of that, Morris has a bad habit of scrambling IN to pressure, even when he would be fine sitting in the pocket for 6 seconds.

At the end of the day, I don't think any objective football person can sit there and say our O line has played poorly or been poorly coached.

 

[Ernie McCracken]

Also I DO NOT want to **** with this incoming OL recruiting class. It's pie in the sky right now, and we need these kids coming in.

 

[The Franchise]

Let the season end first before we bring out the pitchforks. Is it too much to ask for that?

I mean, thinking comparatively, our defense isn't good at all, but it isn't nearly as bad as A&M's (#103) with such juggernauts as SMU, Sam Houston State, UTEP and Rice on their schedule, and yet Aggies fans aren't calling for Mark Synder to be guillotined.

If Dorito needs to go, he'll go, but compared to what posters have commented on this forum the past few days, he isn't the worst thing ever.

They will be next year when Manziel is gone. He is the only reason they are winning games. If we had him and not Stepicky it's highly doubtful we would care about our D either. Manziel is worth 4-5 touchdowns per game himself, add in a rushing Td or defensive TD and they just out score you covering up defensive issues.

aTm will be a high powered offense as long as Sumlin is the HC.

And a shtty defense. That's been his pattern his whole career.

 

[L A M P]

I think our OL is fine. At the end of the day, I don't think any objective football person can sit there and say our O line has played poorly or been poorly coached.

I respectfully disagree. (although I completely agree with Morris not helping the situation) We struggle tremendously in short yardage and goalline situations.. which is where games are won & lost. They get exposed every game. Without a doubt they are our most underachieving unit we have when considering experience, depth & talent.

 

[Dingaan1828]

the OL isn't the problem with this team

Correct.. It isn't the problem.. but you are fooling yourself if you don't think it's a large part though.

I think our OL is fine.

The problem is Morris holding on to the ball for too **** long.

Look at tape from the FSU game. Every time Winston has the ball, you can count down like clockwork "one missisippi, two mississippi, three" and the ball is either out of his hands, or he takes off running. That kid has a fantastic sense of how long he's held on to the ball. (The only time in the game he held on to the ball longer than that, he threw a pick to Deon Bush).

Now look at Stephen Morris in the same game. He NEVER holds the ball shorter than 3 seconds. Sometimes, he'll hold the ball TWICE as long.

Think about what you're asking the offensive line to do. They have to stay on blocks twice as long because your QB can't make reads quick enough. On top of that, Morris has a bad habit of scrambling IN to pressure, even when he would be fine sitting in the pocket for 6 seconds.

At the end of the day, I don't think any objective football person can sit there and say our O line has played poorly or been poorly coached.

I don't think people are complaining about pass protection. It's in the running game, and short yardage in particular that people complain about.

 

[SmokeyRone]

"Talked to my source today any and the honeymoon is over at UM. Last night did not sit well with some of the higher ups and there will be wholesale changes in the staff on both sides of the ball. The Canes are not a very talented squad, but the coaching and developing of players has not been good. I believe you will see a new DC, OLine coach and another position coach on the defensive side of the ball will be looking for work."

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=13&f=2927&t=12297531

Supposedly this guy had been correct on numerous things in the past, including the new unis. We shall see.

Sounds exactly like something every fan wants to hear. Also sounds like something that is entirly inconsistant with the thinking of the "higher ups".

 

[SmokeyRone]

the OL isn't the problem with this team

Correct.. It isn't the problem.. but you are fooling yourself if you don't think it's a large part though.

I think our OL is fine.

The problem is Morris holding on to the ball for too **** long.

Look at tape from the FSU game. Every time Winston has the ball, you can count down like clockwork "one missisippi, two mississippi, three" and the ball is either out of his hands, or he takes off running. That kid has a fantastic sense of how long he's held on to the ball. (The only time in the game he held on to the ball longer than that, he threw a pick to Deon Bush).

Now look at Stephen Morris in the same game. He NEVER holds the ball shorter than 3 seconds. Sometimes, he'll hold the ball TWICE as long.

Think about what you're asking the offensive line to do. They have to stay on blocks twice as long because your QB can't make reads quick enough. On top of that, Morris has a bad habit of scrambling IN to pressure, even when he would be fine sitting in the pocket for 6 seconds.

At the end of the day, I don't think any objective football person can sit there and say our O line has played poorly or been poorly coached.

I don't think people are complaining about pass protection. It's in the running game, and short yardage in particular that people complain about.

The OL consistantly fails to push inferior, smaller DLs off the LOS.

 

[Chrisarg72]

Al Golden is not going to fire his bff, even if it means his own job.

I think he will encourage Coach D to resign & find a job better suited for him, saving face for both...

I strongly believe we will have a different DC next season.

This,everyone thinks Al is going to call his best friend out and humiliate him by firing during the season. No way, he's not an *******, coach D will just choose to explore options as a HC at some small school.

 

[SmokeyRone]

Al Golden is not going to fire his bff, even if it means his own job.

I think he will encourage Coach D to resign & find a job better suited for him, saving face for both...

I strongly believe we will have a different DC next season.

This,everyone thinks Al is going to call his best friend out and humiliate him by firing during the season. No way, he's not an *******, coach D will just choose to explore options as a HC at some small school.

Maybe Dorito will get a bigger DC job? NFL maybe?

 

[Chrisarg72]

Al Golden is not going to fire his bff, even if it means his own job.

I think he will encourage Coach D to resign & find a job better suited for him, saving face for both...

I strongly believe we will have a different DC next season.

This,everyone thinks Al is going to call his best friend out and humiliate him by firing during the season. No way, he's not an *******, coach D will just choose to explore options as a HC at some small school.

Maybe Dorito will get a bigger DC job? NFL maybe?

Doubt it, but he may be able to snag a Ball State HC kind of offer

 

[supacane]

Dno is getting no HC jobs. Sorry anyone who hires that terd after what he produced here is dumb as **** and deserve 0-12. He sucks and worst of all, no accountability whatsoever. Smh

 

[Sandman211]

I think our OL is fine. At the end of the day, I don't think any objective football person can sit there and say our O line has played poorly or been poorly coached.

I respectfully disagree. (although I completely agree with Morris not helping the situation) We struggle tremendously in short yardage and goalline situations.. which is where games are won & lost. They get exposed every game. Without a doubt they are our most underachieving unit we have when considering experience, depth & talent.

So just a question but who's fault is it that the O-line is underachieving (along with Morris)? Morris'? Kehoe's? Coley's? I hate the fact that we often get stuffed with a zone blocking scheme, and what often seems like poor, "safe" play calling on offense takes place. I don't hear a lot of "fire Coley" calls on here, just a **** ton of "fire D'Nofrio" calls on here.

I'm no coach or genius when it comes to breaking down football, but I know our offense has not held up to expectations just as bad as our D has not held up to expectations.

 

[Hurracanes]

I think our OL is fine. At the end of the day, I don't think any objective football person can sit there and say our O line has played poorly or been poorly coached.

I respectfully disagree. (although I completely agree with Morris not helping the situation) We struggle tremendously in short yardage and goalline situations.. which is where games are won & lost. They get exposed every game. Without a doubt they are our most underachieving unit we have when considering experience, depth & talent.

So just a question but who's fault is it that the O-line is underachieving (along with Morris)? Morris'? Kehoe's? Coley's? I hate the fact that we often get stuffed with a zone blocking scheme, and what often seems like poor, "safe" play calling on offense takes place. I don't hear a lot of "fire Coley" calls on here, just a **** ton of "fire D'Nofrio" calls on here.

I'm no coach or genius when it comes to breaking down football, but I know our offense has not held up to expectations just as bad as our D has not held up to expectations.

Although the offense has disappointed, it's no where near as bad as the Defense. Fact!

 

[The Franchise]

Al Golden is not going to fire his bff, even if it means his own job.

I think he will encourage Coach D to resign & find a job better suited for him, saving face for both...

I strongly believe we will have a different DC next season.

This,everyone thinks Al is going to call his best friend out and humiliate him by firing during the season. No way, he's not an *******, coach D will just choose to explore options as a HC at some small school.

Maybe Dorito will get a bigger DC job? NFL maybe?

Doubt it, but he may be able to snag a Ball State HC kind of offer

Hiring Corch Duh' as HC after he has strung together two years of the worst defenses in UM's history should be an easy sell to another program's boosters and alums.

 

[obcanes]

LOL. Anyone that believes that Golden can be forced to make changes to his staff he doesn't want to make on his own probably believes what they read on the Internet.

They could all live up to their word, and she (That ***************) will still throw them out of her office and not act on it.

The bottom line is, no college president is going to make decisions based on a movement of unhappy fans. Especially, emotional, out of control UM fans, who are unhappy a 9-2 record isn't good enough for them.

Its just not going to happen.

Want to withhold your HC donations? That's your choice.

Choose not to buy tickets for a UM game again? Again, your choice.

Think doing so is going to strong arm Donna That *******************? That's not only not going to happen, its going to be handled like it was a joke. That's how pathetic it is.

Folks who engage in this need to realize one thing. You are spectators, not participants. Sports is an enterprise where, if you don't like the product, don't go. If you like the product, support it.

However, when you start believing you will determine what that product is, all I can say is, you better be a college president or a group of Board of Trustee members, who have enough votes to make a change. Anything short of that will not bring about any change.

I don't care how much money these folks put up, and it won't be nearly as much as they will brag about, Donna **************** is not getting blackmailed by any UM fans.

It will go down in UM history in the same laughable fashion as the infamous, "Hang Coker in effegy" party that was supposed to take place at Mark Light after the Washington game in 2000.

-Joe Casale

I agree with this, except the BOT are fans. They are just more patient fans.
This same statement was made for Shannon until the last game against USF.

If Golden wins out, the BOT will be happy, and his staff will have another year.
If he goes 7-5, someone will be bringing him to discuss hiring/firing.

Golden has a long term contract (let's not get into why we did this again), so he's not on the hot seat, yet.
But the same cannot be made for his staff.

 

[3FW]

Schiano DC, Wanny LB, Butch DL. And Bill Walsh as the OC.