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Interesting stat on Florida QBs
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The big surprise to me is California. I’d say Florida has produced better QBs in that time frame, including two of the best college players ever and the reigning NFL MVP.
Texas is the best QB state and Georgia will add some big-timers with a Lawrence and Fields. But the volume of Florida is impressive. There are only so many QBs getting drafted and Florida has a big share.
Texas is the best QB state and Georgia will add some big-timers with a Lawrence and Fields. But the volume of Florida is impressive. There are only so many QBs getting drafted and Florida has a big share.
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Most of Florida is so different than South Florida, which makes some of the analysis of "Florida players" sometimes irrelevant from a UM standpoint. So many areas of Florida are more similar to TusKKKaloosa than they are to Miami that we're probably more likely to get a QB from a metropolitan area in a far away state than we are from a redneck area in Florida.
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Even if you limit it to South Florida, you have three guys who started NFL games last year (Lamar, Bridgewater and Brissett) and three guys who finished Top 5 nationally in passing (Smith, White and Doughty).
I would have liked seeing what Preston Dewey could have done. Shame
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Hispanics are 23% of Florida. 50+% of Texas. And Cubans can be ballers.
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Cali QB's, especially Southern Cali, tend to have a high bust rate, they're over coached on the private QB circuit & a little too overly manicured, meaning they're too coddled & pampered from a young age they tend not face adversity well. They plateau early.
The best Florida QB's are pretty much the South Fla athletes, the QB's from Northern & Central Fla usually aren't that good. The South Fla boys are usually really good athletes that get put at QB from lil league ball, Bridgewater always excelled due to intelligence & IQ, but normally South Fla QB's are athletically advanced for the position & the ones who get upwards of 6'0ft & don't get switched to WR/RB or DB tend to do well because they face tough competition all throughout their upbringing & have a chip on their shoulder due to being doubted at every step. They respond well to adversity.
Texas produces the best QB's & it's not close IMO. No state has more annual naturally gifted passers than they do. Maybe it's the baseball culture that helps builds arm strength, or the immense pressure that comes from the HS football culture in TX which is similar to FL in terms of competitiveness, or maybe it's really the Varsity Blues style Dad's lol, whatever it is, them boys in Texas can sling it.
The best Florida QB's are pretty much the South Fla athletes, the QB's from Northern & Central Fla usually aren't that good. The South Fla boys are usually really good athletes that get put at QB from lil league ball, Bridgewater always excelled due to intelligence & IQ, but normally South Fla QB's are athletically advanced for the position & the ones who get upwards of 6'0ft & don't get switched to WR/RB or DB tend to do well because they face tough competition all throughout their upbringing & have a chip on their shoulder due to being doubted at every step. They respond well to adversity.
Texas produces the best QB's & it's not close IMO. No state has more annual naturally gifted passers than they do. Maybe it's the baseball culture that helps builds arm strength, or the immense pressure that comes from the HS football culture in TX which is similar to FL in terms of competitiveness, or maybe it's really the Varsity Blues style Dad's lol, whatever it is, them boys in Texas can sling it.
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This is why I was a bit surprised that Texas had so many good passers. A lot of times, Texas recruits are already finished products by the time they enroll in college due to the amount of coaching and training they get in high school. When you've already been coached up as much as you can, there's only one way to go. Especially compared to Florida, Texas football players are treated and coached like NFL players while kids here are often totally raw when they enroll.
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It seems to me that that holds fairly true at **** near every other position when it comes to Texas kids, but not the QB's. Those guys normally progress well in CFB and beyond. They're kinda the middle ground between our QB's & the Cali dudes. Definitely not pampered & coddled but not raw like the Floridians. Texas guys(at most other positions)might max out but rarely are they *****, so they're highly competitive. They've got the right formula out there. Not burned out or babied but given a good foundation to build in college from. Lots of Heismans, #1 picks, All-Pros and MVPs to prove that...
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Because the list goes a decade back the numbers will be skewered, but if you're just counting the last 4-5 classes & judging by college & not NFL, AZ has had a nice crop of college level QB's.
- Brett Hundley from Chandler
- Kyle Allen is a Scottsdale kid that played at Desert Mountain, made the NFL
- Bryce Perkins was a Chandler kid, was good starter at UVA
- Brian Lewerke from Pinnacle
- Tyler Shough from Chandler/went to Hamilton & was a high ranked 4-star that signed with Oregon & is set to be the successor to Herbert
- Jack Plummer from Gilbert signed with Purdue
- Brock Purdy from Gilbert/went to Perry & had a great Sophomore season at Iowa St throwing for over 3900yds & 27TD's
- Spencer Rattler from Phoenix/went to Pinnacle was a high ranked 5-star & the #1 QB in the 2019 class, hasn't had a chance to play yet but it set to light it on fire at Oklahoma
- Jacob Conover from Chandler, 4-star that signed with BYU, hasn't played yet because he's on his Mormon mission, but was really good in HS
- Kedon Slovis from Scottsdale/went to Desert Mountain, absolutely killed it as a TF last year at USC throwing for 3500yds 30TD's at 70%cmp & essentially took JT Daniels job from him
- Gunner Cruz from Queen Creek, signed with Wash St, could be the next high volume passer in that system.
- Chubba Purdy from Gilbert/went to Perry, Brock Purdy's younger brother, was a 4-star that signed with FSU last year after Norvell got hired.
- Jack Miller from Scottsdale/went to Chaparral, 4-star that signed with Ohio St
And in the 21 class
- Ty Thompson from Gilbert/goes to Mesquite, high ranked 4-star that's committed Oregon
- Kai Millner from Gilbert/goes to Higley, 3-star with great arm talent currently committed to Cal.
The 22 Class has some nice talent too at QB in AZ. They're not as deep as Cali or TX, but they have some nice gifted passers that will be permeating the college game in the next few years.
- Brett Hundley from Chandler
- Kyle Allen is a Scottsdale kid that played at Desert Mountain, made the NFL
- Bryce Perkins was a Chandler kid, was good starter at UVA
- Brian Lewerke from Pinnacle
- Tyler Shough from Chandler/went to Hamilton & was a high ranked 4-star that signed with Oregon & is set to be the successor to Herbert
- Jack Plummer from Gilbert signed with Purdue
- Brock Purdy from Gilbert/went to Perry & had a great Sophomore season at Iowa St throwing for over 3900yds & 27TD's
- Spencer Rattler from Phoenix/went to Pinnacle was a high ranked 5-star & the #1 QB in the 2019 class, hasn't had a chance to play yet but it set to light it on fire at Oklahoma
- Jacob Conover from Chandler, 4-star that signed with BYU, hasn't played yet because he's on his Mormon mission, but was really good in HS
- Kedon Slovis from Scottsdale/went to Desert Mountain, absolutely killed it as a TF last year at USC throwing for 3500yds 30TD's at 70%cmp & essentially took JT Daniels job from him
- Gunner Cruz from Queen Creek, signed with Wash St, could be the next high volume passer in that system.
- Chubba Purdy from Gilbert/went to Perry, Brock Purdy's younger brother, was a 4-star that signed with FSU last year after Norvell got hired.
- Jack Miller from Scottsdale/went to Chaparral, 4-star that signed with Ohio St
And in the 21 class
- Ty Thompson from Gilbert/goes to Mesquite, high ranked 4-star that's committed Oregon
- Kai Millner from Gilbert/goes to Higley, 3-star with great arm talent currently committed to Cal.
The 22 Class has some nice talent too at QB in AZ. They're not as deep as Cali or TX, but they have some nice gifted passers that will be permeating the college game in the next few years.
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Kyler, Baker, and Brees are midgets out there. Shouldn't factor into Miami's recruiting decisions at all if the kids are good enough.
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And not one of the Florida guys played for Miami.....
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The smaller QB's need to have exceptional arm talent & ability to make all the throws.
In South Fla the small QB's can be natural playmakers but they lack pure arm talent & are usually limited as passers. Quinton Flowers might be the exception to the rule because he had a nice arm, but otherworldly athleticism to go with it.
Kyler Murray is short as ****, but has a big power arm & can hit every part of the field combined his natural ability to run & pickup chunk yards with his feet.
Lamar Jackson fits that same grouping but he's a legit 6'2 & actually has a strong lower body build, he's also improved his passing quite a bit & is a multiple platform thrower who is even more accurate throwing side arm in the intermediate routes than he is throwing to the outside hashes.
I honestly think Baseball has something to do with it from an arm strength perspective with TX QB's, because a lot of them play baseball pretty young & while that throwing motion isn't ideal for a QB, I think just the process of muscle activation in the shoulder & arm from early on & having those muscles naturally regrow & get stronger over time makes the TX's QB's have such velocity & ability to throw the deep ball without much strain.
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Over the years i feel like Texas is where we should be going for quarterbacks. They produce a ton!
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You might be onto something with the baseball stuff. Kyler and Baker were both very good baseball players. Stafford was too. I'm sure a bunch of em were.
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Those guys are pretty special dudes. On average, you want height. I think that also hurts South Florida with tight ends. We don't produce that body type for some reason.
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