In person game observations

That's so weird people had bad experiences like that. I was in 243 with a group of friends that had never been to a road game and we all just kept talking about how nice the fanbase was. We were around a bunch of season ticket holders of all ages and everyone was talkative, nice and just enjoying the game/weather. Some friendly banter all around but I left thinking it was a great place to watch a game with welcoming fans.

Sidenote, I've NEVER seen a stadium with a **** Happy Hour before, so walking in and being told it's "Happy Hour until Kickoff" and getting large beers for $5 was great!
Thank you. I'd like to say that's how the majority of fan interactions occur at Louisville games. Of the rare situations that I witnessed Louisville fans being out of line, I've seen other Louisville fans jump and/or get security over to remove the Louisville fan. Usually alcohol is involved. Another poster talked about WVU games. They are the worst of the worst. Was walking in the stadium with my young son at the time who I think was around 9 maybe and my nephew who was 2 yrs younger and this group of WVU students ran up to us right in my face screaming asking what was I doing bringing young kids to a football game. I was like wtf. Other (older) WVU fans walked up after and apologized having seen it. Morgantown is the armpit of America. Lexington, KY is a close second.
 

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Dude are you clueless? We sat in the lower section. You literally cannot see the fans in the upper deck the way that stadium is designed. So how exactly was it possible for us to poke the bear of people we could not even see only to have them hurl objects at us. Get real man.

Actually I get it now. 58 posts. Ville fan over here pretending to be a Miami fan while condoning the actions of a trash fan base. Enough said.
Again, the Louisville athletic department won't tolerate that. Since you don't want to make the department aware of this, I will see what I can do. You can't wide brush an entire fan base. Are you telling me every encounter you had on Saturday was a bad one? I'll let you know what I find out.
 
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From:*****@yahoo.com
To:ad@GoCards.com

Tue, Oct 22 at 5:01 PM


Good evening Mr Heird. I just wanted to make you aware of a situation I'm finding out about from several Miami fans from their section of the stadium from this past Saturday.

They are saying someone from the upper deck kept throwing down nickels, trash etc etc at the end of the game. I'm getting this from the canesinsight thread on their message board. https://www.canesinsight.com/threads/in-person-game-observations.194614/page-3

It might be something to look at for future games and post up security in that area to watch for this.

Sincerely,
**************
 
I thought the same thing. But he did not kick into the end zone the next kick after the return TD. That tells me his leg as off that day.
This wind theory is bizarro world... He made a 55 yard FG into this alleged wind tunnel... with plenty of leg...
 
Done.

From:*****@yahoo.com
To:ad@GoCards.com

Tue, Oct 22 at 5:01 PM


Good evening Mr Heird. I just wanted to make you aware of a situation I'm finding out about from several Miami fans from their section of the stadium from this past Saturday.

They are saying someone from the upper deck kept throwing down nickels, trash etc etc at the end of the game. I'm getting this from the canesinsight thread on their message board. https://www.canesinsight.com/threads/in-person-game-observations.194614/page-3

It might be something to look at for future games and post up security in that area to watch for this.

Sincerely,
**************


I'm sure this will do the trick.

Problem solved.

This doesn't change the fact that you tried to gaslight us for pages, telling us what angels the Louisville fans are, and how we invited all this on us by "poking the bear" (which never happened).

For the record, I do expect a certain level of antagonism at away games. I will go to five out of six of Miami's away games this year.

But you refuse to acknowledge two primary components of our posts.

1. Pre-game and during-game, there was no mythical "poking of the bear", and you had ONE person say that AFTER the game, to people RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM, he returned the favor of the "downward U" nonsense, which (of course) had no bearing on what people did from the upper deck.

2. There is NO EXCUSE for throwing trash from great height. And, yes, the REASON I cited West Virginia was for the permanent injury that Randy Shannon suffered when West Virginia fans dropped a trash can from the upper deck which hit Randy Shannon.

And these two points do NOT ADDRESS the need for Louisville to have more security FOR A RARE SELLOUT, as well as IN-GAME methods for reporting abusive behavior, as we have at Hard Rock Stadium. There was FAR BETTER security at the UF and USF games than at the Cal and Louisville games. I realize that Florida is an SEC-SEC-SEC program that does this routinely, and USF plays in an NFL stadium, as UM does. But the drop-off in security at Cal and Louisville was shocking and egregious.

Sure, we appreciate you contacting the oh-so-wonderful Louisville AD, and I'm sure we'll here more about how this will "not be tolerated" at Louisville.

Except that it was. And I say that not as a complaint, but to assure you that it happens more than your pearl-clutching self chooses to believe.

The answer is not a next-week-email. The answer is for Louisville (and other ACC schools) to institute policies and controls that are in place at MORE-PREPARED venues, such as Miami, Clemson, F$U, Pitt, and North Carolina. These are schools that routinely host large crowds and/or play in NFL facilities.

I suspect that this oh-so-wonderful Louisville AD is going to laugh at this thread and do nothing. So be it. I guess we are all "asking for it" because we attended an away game in a state known for making bourbon, at least that's what you told us.

If your oh-so-wonderful AD actually gives a ****, I'll be happy to tell him my section, row, and seat. Not that it will matter, because I tried very hard not to engage with the abusive ******** behind me. I'm no "bear-poker". But from the stories I've heard from Miami fans, this kind of behavior took place all over the stadium, and I'm sure the wonderful Louisville AD can't possibly pull the season tickets of 10 or 20 thousand people.

Fix the problem. Do what other (better) stadiums do, and give everyone an avenue to report abusive behavior immediately, not weeks later. And renovate certain parts of the stadium where people can drop stuff off the back side down onto people. And have cameras that can catch people doing that if they throw stuff from the upper deck into the lower deck seats.

But thank you for the e-mail.
 
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Again, the Louisville athletic department won't tolerate that. Since you don't want to make the department aware of this, I will see what I can do. You can't wide brush an entire fan base. Are you telling me every encounter you had on Saturday was a bad one? I'll let you know what I find out.
I had zero problems with Louisville fans at this event - before, during or after the game. I had heard they are known for students taking over seats, and night games being worse, did not happen in my section.

This Miami fan complaining about every away fan base is some phenomenon.
 
Nice, glad you had a good time. Really appreciate the Louisville fans who were super cool. There were a few who were genuinely friendly and welcoming. Equal mix of unprovoked welcoming behavior as there were unprovoked idiots.

I also appreciate happy hour - world needs more drink specials!



That's so weird people had bad experiences like that. I was in 243 with a group of friends that had never been to a road game and we all just kept talking about how nice the fanbase was. We were around a bunch of season ticket holders of all ages and everyone was talkative, nice and just enjoying the game/weather. Some friendly banter all around but I left thinking it was a great place to watch a game with welcoming fans.

Sidenote, I've NEVER seen a stadium with a **** Happy Hour before, so walking in and being told it's "Happy Hour until Kickoff" and getting large beers for $5 was great!
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Almost without exception, there are no friendly fanbases towards UM. Louisville was no different. Enough said. Chirping and burping the entire game. I wish we had been a little more disciplined and we would have put that team away a lot earlier. The opportunities were there. After the fumble recovery TD, we gotta smarten up because that should have been BALL GAME.
 
This wind theory is bizarro world... He made a 55 yard FG into this alleged wind tunnel... with plenty of leg...
Yea and he was short on kickoffs and I really don't think it was by design. Weird day for him I guess.
 
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Almost without exception, there are no friendly fanbases towards UM. Louisville was no different. Enough said. Chirping and burping the entire game. I wish we had been a little more disciplined and we would have put that team away a lot earlier. The opportunities were there. After the fumble recovery TD, we gotta smarten up because that should have been BALL GAME.
Have heard Tennessee, UVA, Washington, and VT fans are pretty good hosts. Penn St, WVU, and Taint Fans at the Terry Porter Bowl were the worst. FSU and UF fans are surprisingly less bad than most other ACC fan bases.
 
I'm sure this will do the trick.

Problem solved.

This doesn't change the fact that you tried to gaslight us for pages, telling us what angels the Louisville fans are, and how we invited all this on us by "poking the bear" (which never happened).

For the record, I do expect a certain level of antagonism at away games. I will go to five out of six of Miami's away games this year.

But you refuse to acknowledge two primary components of our posts.

1. Pre-game and during-game, there was no mythical "poking of the bear", and you had ONE person say that AFTER the game, to people RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM, he returned the favor of the "downward U" nonsense, which (of course) had no bearing on what people did from the upper deck.

2. There is NO EXCUSE for throwing trash from great height. And, yes, the REASON I cited West Virginia was for the permanent injury that Randy Shannon suffered when West Virginia fans dropped a trash can from the upper deck which hit Randy Shannon.

And these two points do NOT ADDRESS the need for Louisville to have more security FOR A RARE SELLOUT, as well as IN-GAME methods for reporting abusive behavior, as we have at Hard Rock Stadium. There was FAR BETTER security at the UF and USF games than at the Cal and Louisville games. I realize that Florida is an SEC-SEC-SEC program that does this routinely, and USF plays in an NFL stadium, as UM does. But the drop-off in security at Cal and Louisville was shocking and egregious.

Sure, we appreciate you contacting the oh-so-wonderful Louisville AD, and I'm sure we'll here more about how this will "not be tolerated" at Louisville.

Except that it was. And I say that not as a complaint, but to assure you that it happens more than your pearl-clutching self chooses to believe.

The answer is not a next-week-email. The answer is for Louisville (and other ACC schools) to institute policies and controls that are in place at MORE-PREPARED venues, such as Miami, Clemson, F$U, Pitt, and North Carolina. These are schools that routinely host large crowds and/or play in NFL facilities.

I suspect that this oh-so-wonderful Louisville AD is going to laugh at this thread and do nothing. So be it. I guess we are all "asking for it" because we attended an away game in a state known for making bourbon, at least that's what you told us.

If your oh-so-wonderful AD actually gives a ****, I'll be happy to tell him my section, row, and seat. Not that it will matter, because I tried very hard not to engage with the abusive ******** behind me. I'm no "bear-poker". But from the stories I've heard from Miami fans, this kind of behavior took place all over the stadium, and I'm sure the wonderful Louisville AD can't possibly pull the season tickets of 10 or 20 thousand people.

Fix the problem. Do what other (better) stadiums do, and give everyone an avenue to report abusive behavior immediately, not weeks later. And renovate certain parts of the stadium where people can drop stuff off the back side down onto people. And have cameras that can catch people doing that if they throw stuff from the upper deck into the lower deck seats.

But thank you for the e-mail.
My original reply was to Edge who stated this....so don't blow it all up my man

"5. Cardinals fans were totally classless. Instead of the throwing up the L it was always throwing down the U. We let them know as they exited. "

Regarding your quite emotional comments above (1) Last I checked Miami has RARE SELLOUTS too. Don't forget when in Florida I make it to at least one game a year at Hard Rock and watch the games on TV, I know the attendance struggles at UM games so you can't throw attendance smack towards any other school and (2) Louisville does have in-game announcements about reporting unruly fans. Perhaps you missed it during the overall game experience. Might I add Hard Rock is an NFL stadium with NFL security experience, even during the college games played there. L&N stadium is a college stadium. It doesn't have all the resources that Miami has. With that being said, I'm done on this topic. There's a better discussion to take place regarding the upcoming game with FSwho.
 
I've traveled to multiple road games. Of course, we (our family) don't poke the bear while we are there either and then go crying on the Louisville message boards how mean said teams fans were to us. Just don't poke the bear. It's really that simple. Most fans of any given team are respectable fans and every fan base has it's village idiots. Just don't rile up the idiots is all I'm saying. Go Canes, Go Cards!
I had a fan tell me to STFU 10 mins into the Gator game. After I asked him to repeat it, he did along with a finger straight in my face. All I did was clap & stand for a TD when Miami first scored. Everyone acted all appalled when I reacted physically but at what point does one man tolerate another man acting like that? I thought I was going to jail. At 40. In Gainesville.

It’s not as cut & dry as you make it. Some fans are just entitled twats & have no concept of how conflict works in real life vs behind a computer screen.

I will not take my kids to road games ever. The days of being able to enjoy a spirited day of CFB are done.
 
As far as Sampson goes you put the best five out there regardless of money and let it ride. Cream to the top. The rest can wait their turn or hit the portal if they like. Tough situation but next year he’s a redshirt sophomore. Plenty of time. Hope he stays and lets this staff develop him
 
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My original reply was to Edge who stated this....so don't blow it all up my man

"5. Cardinals fans were totally classless. Instead of the throwing up the L it was always throwing down the U. We let them know as they exited. "

Regarding your quite emotional comments above (1) Last I checked Miami has RARE SELLOUTS too. Don't forget when in Florida I make it to at least one game a year at Hard Rock and watch the games on TV, I know the attendance struggles at UM games so you can't throw attendance smack towards any other school and (2) Louisville does have in-game announcements about reporting unruly fans. Perhaps you missed it during the overall game experience. Might I add Hard Rock is an NFL stadium with NFL security experience, even during the college games played there. L&N stadium is a college stadium. It doesn't have all the resources that Miami has. With that being said, I'm done on this topic. There's a better discussion to take place regarding the upcoming game with FSwho.
Oh, one other thing on why your fans are trash. Totally forgot about this until now. My wife went to the bathroom by herself. As she was standing in line one of your trash buddies got up in her face and yelled F Miami and anything related to Miami. Those were his exact words. She didn’t “poke the bear”before you go that route again. And what a real tough guy yelling at a 5’4” 110 pound woman. I am anxious to hear you justify these actions.
 
I know this will sound strange, but there was a wind blowing into the CLOSED end zone. It was blowing from the closed side to the (somewhat) open side. Definitely more touchbacks kicking to the "less populated" end zone.
I was east side lower bowl 35 yard line upper part of lower deck I didn't feel a breeze all day. And despite it being not that hot temp wise. The sun made it fell like it was 100. Completely agree on the Louisville fans. We had a couple different end of games bad encounters. No alcohol involved from our side in the stadium either
 
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Imagine getting hit by stuff from an area where you possibly could not have made an impact verbally or physically and the response by some ******* in here is "Shouldn't have poked the bear then".

Un****ingbelieveable. We got fans throwing nickels at people, which is mother****ing dangerous and there is nothing that warrants that kind of reaction. You're just ****ed and a *****. That's it. If you have a personal problem with someone in the stands, take it outside.

Been to enough stadiums in my life to know that you don't have to do anything to get hit with flying things or get into an altercation just by sitting in the wrong spot. There are people throwing random **** at you just to get your attention. How is that my fault then?

What's the next excuse? Don't sit close to Louisville fans?
Again, the Louisville athletic department won't tolerate that.
So take your emails that won't do **** and **** off.
 
There wasn’t wind. I was sitting in club level.

And for the fans, it was a mix of good and bad. Nothing different from FSU fans
Agreed. It was almost as if I was at an away game.

To make amends for the rough experience our fans keep receiving on the road, I will make sure to bring a red carpet to Hard Rock this weekend to roll out for opposing fans to make them feel comfortable and then cheers for good plays for both teams. Jolly good kick off return young chap. Well done. Thank you for entertaining me amidst the harsh wind condition felt by only 3 Miami fans trying to figure out why we kept kicking it to you...
 
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1. We had the perfect vantage point for the TD to George. It was just like wow, wow. How did he see him and how did he make that throw while drifting left. That was a Heisman moment.

2. I have no clue what was going on with Borregales kickoffs. There was no wind to speak of. Yet he could not get his normal distance. And the TD was not only short but no hang time. A disaster in the making and that’s what happened. This was truly the biggest head scratcher of the day.

3. What I loved about Cam this game is he really learned from the last two games as far as protecting the ball. On a couple of those sacks you could tell he really wanted to get crazy with it but he thought better of it and went down. He also hit his check downs when he needed to. He was very smart with the ball.

4. The TD by Martinez ripped the heart out of Ville and their fans. They all quickly exited after that. There was no one in stands for the Cardinals last TD. I thought that was interesting. There is always a chance in college football.

5. Cardinals fans were totally classless. Instead of the throwing up the L it was always throwing down the U. We let them know as they exited. Then fans started throwing stuff from top deck. I got hit in back of head by a nickel. I turned around and saw bottles and all kinds of crap being thrown. No place for that. Complete trash man.

6. Someone talked about Samson not being very engaged on sidelines. I can tell you he was first to the tunnel. We yelled his name and he did not even look up. No emotion at all. It was the same thing for the walk to the buses. First guy out and no expression. Maybe that’s his personality. But he sure looks unhappy and like a guy that doesn’t want to be here.

7. Met Armondo Blount. Nice kid. From my perspective he is a DE all the way. Can’t see him ballooning into a DT.
I had the same exact observations re Samson at the Cal game. Dude couldn’t get on the bus fast enough.
 
Have heard Tennessee, UVA, Washington, and VT fans are pretty good hosts. Penn St, WVU, and Taint Fans at the Terry Porter Bowl were the worst. FSU and UF fans are surprisingly less bad than most other ACC fan bases.


aTm fans were pretty good too, they have a sense of pride about how well the treat opposing fans.
 
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