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IDGAF if we have a recruiting board, bring in this morther ******

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lurk said:
Two points:

1. Darren Krein, NOT Jessie Armstead, wanted out.
2. Jessie Armstead was the consensus #1 player in high school. Jimmy Johnson was so giddy and gushed that his signing was proof that the Canes ~"made it".
3. Arthur Brown, Leon William, DJ Williams, and Willie Williams were neck and neck for spots 2 through 5.
4. There are about 3 dozen players who were top linebackers in their class, but not as high overall as the above top 5.

I followed recruiting immensely from the early 80's through today. It wasn't internet based, but there was many exceptional sources back then. Don't delude yourself into thinking things are so different today than 35 years ago.
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I see your immense recruiting experience from the 80s too the 90s (primarily 90s) and raise you any amount...
 
TipDrill said:
Would this dude be our best LB prospect ever? Willie was pretty highly touted. DJ would be the best right?
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Jessie Armstead was the top lb and top 1-2 players in country when he came out. DJ also. WW was top LB and #3 overall.
 
OldhamA said:
He'd certainly be built differently if he came to Miami with the other opportunities he has.

Of course, so were Reed, Lewis, Sapp et al.
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Ray Lewis was a late signee. He didn't have the other opportunities you imagine. Sapp signed with us when we were the big guy on the block. Different dynamic.
 
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The Franchise said:
You might be too young to remember Jessie Armstead, but he up there. Might have been one of the top rated overall recruits his year.
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He was equal to all these guys. Lotta folks tought (maybe still think) he played on the best hs fb team of all time. Was top player in country comin out.
 
caneinorlando said:
When a HS FB Coach (A Legend in Central Fl)
and one who coached Cane Legends in HS...looks me directly in the eyes and says Willie is the best HS FB player he ever saw...that pretty much sums it up...Between him and his brother, they coached Sapp...Searcy..Merriweather..and Horace Copeland in HS....He said in the State Championship against Carol City, he went into halftime and specifically tryed to adjust and gameplan against Willie...but to no avail...
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WW was a monster, an LT / Clowney type athlete guys couldnt handle in HS. But he was really a rush end more than a LB, and given his lack of discipline, becoming a 4-3 OLB was always going to require something WW struggled with (focus and studying). He would have been a better fit as a jack, imo. Obviously his personal issues were what they were. His potential was LT.
 
Willie was used wrong. Sapp came in as a TE. My cousin was in that recruiting class. James Stewart, Robert Woodus, lots of talent.
 
ItsAUThing.com said:
An across-the-board 5-star from California with interest from Clemson, Georgia, Alabama and Oregon—already took an unofficial visit to Clemson and headed back for an official next week.

Kid has his choice of any university the country. Selling Miami in a rebuild; 12-13 since the wheels came off at Pitt in 2017—versus defending national champion Clemson; who's won two of the past three titles and dominates the ACC.

Miami is fighting an uphill battle with this kid and it's hardly an indictment on the staff if he choose a front-runner over a program that's been irrelevant for 15 years.

Canes need to find a way to win without kids like this before they're going to start attracting kids like this.

Would assume this is nothing more than a California kid who wants a free trip to Miami and to get some pics for his social media feed—133K followers in IG—of him in the Turnover Chain and flossing around the athletic facilities.

Of course our fans will turn this into another "this staff can't recruit" narrative if / when he goes elsewhere.
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Brother I don't he comes at all but lets wait it out. He would start day 1.
 
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BoxingRobes said:
I'm not too young, but because they didn't have recruiting rankings like we do now that date back twenty years at this point, I don't really count those guys in these types of discussion...no tangible number to corroborate where to place Armstead. But, yeah, Armstead was great as a prospect. Probably would fit in right behind DJ Williams, but I don't know.
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a simple glance into the UM hall of fame and you’d see: “Jessie came to the University of Miami in 1989 from Carter High School in Dallas, Texas, having been selected Superpro Magazine's Player of the Year”.

Smfh
 
ItsAUThing.com said:
An across-the-board 5-star from California with interest from Clemson, Georgia, Alabama and Oregon—already took an unofficial visit to Clemson and headed back for an official next week.

Kid has his choice of any university the country. Selling Miami in a rebuild; 12-13 since the wheels came off at Pitt in 2017—versus defending national champion Clemson; who's won two of the past three titles and dominates the ACC.

Miami is fighting an uphill battle with this kid and it's hardly an indictment on the staff if he choose a front-runner over a program that's been irrelevant for 15 years.

Canes need to find a way to win without kids like this before they're going to start attracting kids like this.

Would assume this is nothing more than a California kid who wants a free trip to Miami and to get some pics for his social media feed—133K followers in IG—of him in the Turnover Chain and flossing around the athletic facilities.

Of course our fans will turn this into another "this staff can't recruit" narrative if / when he goes elsewhere.
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You talking? YOU just pretty much negative recruited for other schools against Miami.
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caneinorlando said:
When a HS FB Coach (A Legend in Central Fl)
and one who coached Cane Legends in HS...looks me directly in the eyes and says Willie is the best HS FB player he ever saw...that pretty much sums it up...Between him and his brother, they coached Sapp...Searcy..Merriweather..and Horace Copeland in HS....He said in the State Championship against Carol City, he went into halftime and specifically tryed to adjust and gameplan against Willie...but to no avail...
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Willie dominated the state title game that was played in Orlando..I believe he broke the QB’s arm on the first few plays of the game. He played DE though.

willie was older than everyone though. if not for a rule change before his senior year..he would have not played. He played in the dade vs broward game his junior year bc he was too old to play as a senior.
 
Ethnicsands said:
WW was a monster, an LT / Clowney type athlete guys couldnt handle in HS. But he was really a rush end more than a LB, and given his lack of discipline, becoming a 4-3 OLB was always going to require something WW struggled with (focus and studying). He would have been a better fit as a jack, imo. Obviously his personal issues were what they were. His potential was LT.
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Exactly! He was a DE..not a LB
 
Tee3000 said:
Willie dominated the state title game that was played in Orlando..I believe he broke the QB’s arm on the first few plays of the game. He played DE though.

willie was older than everyone though. if not for a rule change before his senior year..he would have not played. He played in the dade vs broward game his junior year bc he was too old to play as a senior.
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I was at State Championship game..and I'm friends with then Edgewater HC Bill Geirke
 
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