I Don't Know About This Fisch Dude

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TP800 has a decent point, as a major recruiting pitch is how well your program can prepare players for the NFL. If you can show this to recruits, then it's an effective pitch. I get that.

However--not one thing an NFL Cane has done has ever won us a single game in the college ranks. Not a **** one. The success of Miami football is not tied to the "Pro-Canes"...it's tied to the 85 or so kids who make up the Canes roster each season, and how well they play on Thursdays/Saturdays. That's where the focus needs to be.

I get giddy when Hester houses a kickoff or when RL52 makes a big hit for the Ravens...but that is secondary, and even tertiary, to the success of Miami Hurricanes college football.
 
We should run more of a West Coast offense which gives us the option to utilize two RBs in the backfield and we can either have a slot WR or a TE.
 
Of course winning is Important. However, IMHO I think preparing athletes for professional careers is more important. Winning is great for fans to have something to brag about.

So winning is more for the fans and not the program? In addition to this, preparing the athletes for professional athletic careers is more important for the program than winning? Is this the idiocy you are trying to propose?

Like one can't be done without the other or one has to unnecessarily suffer because of the other? lol


Stop with the name calling-USNAVYCANE
 
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Of course winning is Important. However, IMHO I think preparing athletes for professional careers is more important. Winning is great for fans to have something to brag about.

So winning is more for the fans and not the program? In addition to this, preparing the athletes for professional athletic careers is more important for the program than winning? Is this the idiocy you are trying to propose?

Like one can't be done without the other or one has to unnecessarily suffer because of the other? lol
. Why are we even discussing Canes football right now? I thought we had to have D1 experience to be qualified to speak on these matters?

Back on the topic, I have been on the side that we should run the spread for a while now. Don't most of the high schools down here run the spread or some variant of it?


Talk about the post not the poster-USNAVYCANE
 
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2011
Correct me if I'm wrong but...

1 Alabama - Pro
2 LSU Pro
3 Oklahoma State Spread
4 Oregon Spread Option
5 Arkansas Proish
6 USC Pro
7 Stanford Pro
8 Boise State Pro
9 South Carolina Pro
10 Wisconsin Pro
 
2011
Correct me if I'm wrong but...

1 Alabama - Multiple - IE: Multiple teams run offenses that have elements of several offenses in them. How are you defining pro btw? Everyone has a different meaning for it.
2 LSU Multiple
3 Oklahoma State Spread
4 Oregon Spread Option
5 Arkansas Multiple
6 USC Pro
7 Stanford Pro
8 Boise State Multiple... this one is iffy to me, they definitely run a very Pro-styled offense but they run a lot of spread concepts with their passing game
9 South Carolina Multiple but I'm honestly not sure. I just assume that with Steve Spurrier as their head coach, I'd assume that they'd still be running elements of the Raid
10 Wisconsin Pro

My responses in the "impact font". I wanted to just change the color but I don't know if I can do it from the quick response box lol
 
Of course winning is Important. However, IMHO I think preparing athletes for professional careers is more important. Winning is great for fans to have something to brag about.

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So winning is more for the fans and not the program? In addition to this, preparing the athletes for professional athletic careers is more important for the program than winning? Is this the idiocy you are trying to propose?

Like one can't be done without the other or one has to unnecessarily suffer because of the other? lol
Why are we even discussing Canes football right now? I thought we had to have D1 experience to be qualified to speak on these matters?

Back on the topic, I have been on the side that we should run the spread for a while now. Don't most of the high schools down here run the spread or some variant of it?

Absolutely. The main reason I would run a more spread oriented offense though (if the decision was up to me of course) is not so much that the high schools run that kind of offense but just because I think that that offense would give us the most success with the types of players that South Florida is abundant in. Obviously that style of offense helps but kids are going to have to learn a ton of new football stuff anyway when they move up to college ball on any level. It's the type of South Florida players and offensive linemen that would dictate my decision to make the move to that offense more than anything basically.
 
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The spread is a gimmick of sorts the same way that Geogia Tech's triple option is. It's for teams who can't consistently get top athletes and linemen to go toe-to-toe with elite teams. Bama, LSU, USC, Wisconsin all run pro-style offenses because they have the guys up front to control the game.

The spread is adopted by teams to even the playing field whose OLs may not be able to control the game.
 
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Of course winning is Important. However, IMHO I think preparing athletes for professional careers is more important. Winning is great for fans to have something to brag about.

Not sure if trolling or serious...
 
AG said at the Orange Bowl he wants Miami to resemble Stanford. If you're physical on offense and defense, you're going to win. Example:49ers and Stanford running a prostyle.Same type coach and philosophy. Also 92-93 Cowboys.
 
NFL teams don't run the spread. The only "spread" aspect to what some NFL teams do is they'll sometimes use 3, 4, or even 5 WR's, and sometimes run shotgun sets.

That is not the same thing as what we know as the college "spread offense"


I'm a fan of moving toward a spread offense. Even in the NFL are large amount of teams work exclusively out of spread sets.

If we are going to run a pro, I'd prefer to see something similar to what USC did with Leinart or an Auburn style offense under Al Borges.

What can we expect this year?
 
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The reason high school run the spread is because high school quarterbacks and wideouts are not smart enough to understand route trees and progressions. In a high school / college spread offense, WR's will "float" in to an open space, and QB's will have maybe one read.

High schools do it because it's SIMPLE and it works against the ****** defenses you find at the high school level.

A good defense with any kind of coaching will annihilate that kind of spread offense.

If you want to get good at consistently beating teams like Maryland and Duke, but consistently getting killed by teams like Alabama and LSU... then by all means let's run the spread. Since I want to actually win national championships, I'm going to vote "no" to the spread.


Of course winning is Important. However, IMHO I think preparing athletes for professional careers is more important. Winning is great for fans to have something to brag about.

.

So winning is more for the fans and not the program? In addition to this, preparing the athletes for professional athletic careers is more important for the program than winning? Is this the idiocy you are trying to propose?

Like one can't be done without the other or one has to unnecessarily suffer because of the other? lol
Why are we even discussing Canes football right now? I thought we had to have D1 experience to be qualified to speak on these matters?

Back on the topic, I have been on the side that we should run the spread for a while now. Don't most of the high schools down here run the spread or some variant of it?

Absolutely. The main reason I would run a more spread oriented offense though (if the decision was up to me of course) is not so much that the high schools run that kind of offense but just because I think that that offense would give us the most success with the types of players that South Florida is abundant in. Obviously that style of offense helps but kids are going to have to learn a ton of new football stuff anyway when they move up to college ball on any level. It's the type of South Florida players and offensive linemen that would dictate my decision to make the move to that offense more than anything basically.
 
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2011
Correct me if I'm wrong but...

1 Alabama - Multiple - IE: Multiple teams run offenses that have elements of several offenses in them. How are you defining pro btw? Everyone has a different meaning for it.
2 LSU Multiple
3 Oklahoma State Spread
4 Oregon Spread Option
5 Arkansas Multiple
6 USC Pro
7 Stanford Pro
8 Boise State Multiple... this one is iffy to me, they definitely run a very Pro-styled offense but they run a lot of spread concepts with their passing game
9 South Carolina Multiple but I'm honestly not sure. I just assume that with Steve Spurrier as their head coach, I'd assume that they'd still be running elements of the Raid
10 Wisconsin Pro

My responses in the "impact font". I wanted to just change the color but I don't know if I can do it from the quick response box lol

After reading this I vote multiple :)
 
I prefer a offense that consistently gets my best players against their worst players. I think you can do that from a pro style if you are creative.

Football is simple to me. Regardless of scheme, eventually you got block and beat the man across from u. Triple option, spread, pro,wing t, pistol...whatever.
 
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