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I'm a fan of moving toward a spread offense. Even in the NFL are large amount of teams work exclusively out of spread sets.

If we are going to run a pro, I'd prefer to see something similar to what USC did with Leinart or an Auburn style offense under Al Borges.

What can we expect this year?
 
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Golden isn't going to a spread offense so get that out of your head.

I expect to see us use a lot more 2 TE sets this year, cont. to emphasize the short passing game and with Morris's arm strength PA chances deep. I could see him trying to get Duke the ball in space on screens and out of the slot as well as seeing touches out of the backfield.

Let's be honest, dude turned J. Harris around for most of the season and kept him from throwing the ball to the other team at a record pace. This is year 2 for Morris in his system, I have to believe we see a big jump from Morris.
 
Miami, will never go to a spread offense. And in the world of of non-absolutes, this is the rare occasion. Miami is an NFL factory, why? Because our kids come out prepared to play in the NFL based off the schemes we run (NFL style scheme).

The BOT & President Know this and this is why we would never hire a coach that would implement a spread offense.

Having said that, the NFL and more specifically teams like the Partiots and Packers - to some extent the Saints, run a variation of the spread. However, all of them are based out of the pro-style with packages of 4 and 5 WR/TE. I think that you will see some of that this years as Steven will be more out of the shotgun and Ficsh's constant reference to the TE being a huge piece of the equation; similar to New England
 
I'm a big fan of a versatile fullback if this is what we are set on running. We need a dude that can crack people in the hole, and also catch passes out of the backfield. We got any athletic freaks that can fill this role? Or is Fisch expected to not use a fullback that much?
 
WhatTheHell said:
I'm a big fan of a versatile fullback if this is what we are set on running. We need a dude that can crack people in the hole, and also catch passes out of the backfield. We got any athletic freaks that can fill this role? Or is Fisch expected to not use a fullback that much?
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Hagans is underrated IMO. Dude played well as a sophmore, I expect him to continue to improve.
 
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The Dude said:
Miami, will never go to a spread offense. And in the world of of non-absolutes, this is the rare occasion. Miami is an NFL factory, why? Because our kids come out prepared to play in the NFL based off the schemes we run (NFL style scheme).

The BOT & President Know this and this is why we would never hire a coach that would implement a spread offense.

Having said that, the NFL and more specifically teams like the Partiots and Packers - to some extent the Saints, run a variation of the spread. However, all of them are based out of the pro-style with packages of 4 and 5 WR/TE. I think that you will see some of that this years as Steven will be more out of the shotgun and Ficsh's constant reference to the TE being a huge piece of the equation; similar to New England
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In all honesty, that's a very primitive way of thinking with the way the game has changed. Put aside the fact that we are no longer an NFL factory, and look at how many teams run the spread in college. It doesn't matter anymore. Cam Newton came from a spread and set the league on fire. RG3 came from a spread and went #2. The league has to adapt. And most importantly, it is Miami's job to win games, not serve as a farm league for the NFL. If a spread offense gives us the best opportunity to do so, I'd pursue that.

That's my preference, but hopefully this works. We need balance if we plan on running this type of offense and an o line that, unlike for the past 10 years, won't get thrown off the LOS every snap.
 
WhatTheHell said:
I'm a fan of moving toward a spread offense. Even in the NFL are large amount of teams work exclusively out of spread sets.

If we are going to run a pro, I'd prefer to see something similar to what USC did with Leinart or an Auburn style offense under Al Borges.

What can we expect this year?
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What kind of spread offense would you like to see? I like the spread offenses that incorporate balance (Petrino's power spread, Malzahn's spread, etc...)

With South Florida talent, we could put up some stupid numbers in the spread. We'd be like Oregon on crack.

That being said, I don't have any problems with the pro style. I think we can expect more of what we saw last year, but hopefully with better run blocking.
 
Do you think we see both James and Duke in the backfield at the same time? James is an effective blocker, good hands, and good enough size to be a match-up problem at FB for defenses.
 
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We no longer have a handicap now. Time to have some fun.
 
jevoasis said:
Do you think we see both James and Duke in the backfield at the same time? James is an effective blocker, good hands, and good enough size to be a match-up problem at FB for defenses.
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Yes I could see them line up together, especially in shotgun formations where we have 2 backs in the backfield. Both can catch the ball out of the backfield and will give Morris 2 safety valves.
 
jevoasis said:
Do you think we see both James and Duke in the backfield at the same time? James is an effective blocker, good hands, and good enough size to be a match-up problem at FB for defenses.
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Yes we will see this
 
The Dude said:
Miami, will never go to a spread offense. And in the world of of non-absolutes, this is the rare occasion. Miami is an NFL factory, why? Because our kids come out prepared to play in the NFL based off the schemes we run (NFL style scheme).

The BOT & President Know this and this is why we would never hire a coach that would implement a spread offense.

Having said that, the NFL and more specifically teams like the Partiots and Packers - to some extent the Saints, run a variation of the spread. However, all of them are based out of the pro-style with packages of 4 and 5 WR/TE. I think that you will see some of that this years as Steven will be more out of the shotgun and Ficsh's constant reference to the TE being a huge piece of the equation; similar to New England
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Pretty much agree with most of your premise, but seriously Dude. Do you really think the BOT and President have any notion whatsoever how to compare and contrast from a football perspective a spread offense and a pro-style offense, let alone base a hiring decision on what offense a coach likes to run? Really? The BOT and President are only interested in winning (because of the revenue generated) the right way (meaning high graduation rates, no NCAA violations, and no embarrassing stunts like the infamous fatigues).
 
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jevoasis said:
Do you think we see both James and Duke in the backfield at the same time? James is an effective blocker, good hands, and good enough size to be a match-up problem at FB for defenses.
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Yes we will see this
 
CanesAreAble said:
WhatTheHell said:
I'm a fan of moving toward a spread offense. Even in the NFL are large amount of teams work exclusively out of spread sets.

If we are going to run a pro, I'd prefer to see something similar to what USC did with Leinart or an Auburn style offense under Al Borges.

What can we expect this year?
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What kind of spread offense would you like to see? I like the spread offenses that incorporate balance (Petrino's power spread, Malzahn's spread, etc...)

With South Florida talent, we could put up some stupid numbers in the spread. We'd be like Oregon on crack.

That being said, I don't have any problems with the pro style. I think we can expect more of what we saw last year, but hopefully with better run blocking.
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Petrino has been my DUDE since Louisville. He's my favorite coach and I've wanted him here since then. My biggest nightmare is him ending up at FSU/UF.

Anyway, something like that would be awesome here, but I'm ready for the all out, Oregon style of offense. Fast, dual threat QB, lightning quick running backs, a lot of pre snap movement, 4-5 wide outs on the field that are just devastatingly fast in the open field. I want to capitalize on our biggest resource in the south - SPEED.
 
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Pro-style offense's definition has changed just a little bit thru the years. The old definition: 2WR, TE, FB...establish the run game allowing for playaction (pocket or bootlegs), push the ball downfield to the WR's off of playaction with TE/FB/RB as outlets, motion also used.

Today's definition: same thing as old definition, but with multiple sets and personnel groupings to create favorable offensive matchups.

What that means is, the spread IS a part of the pro-style system now. However, going to a strictly spread system would defeat the purpose of having a modern pro-style offense because you couldn't use the different personnel groupings and sets to create the matchups you want.

Name ONE NFL team that is strictly a spread offense, and the premise that we should abandon being a pro-style team is valid. However--there isn't a single team out there like this. A team (like New England) may throw the ball more, but they do it out of so many sets, you can't call them a spread team. The reason why NFL teams like our guys is because they've been prepared to know what their job is out of multiple offensive sets, as opposed to a kid in a Borges offense who has to re-learn what to do out of a typical 1-back or I Formation set.
 
Of course winning is Important. However, IMHO I think preparing athletes for professional careers is more important. Winning is great for fans to have something to brag about.
 
If we get the right coaches and we recruit the right players--we can run a pro-style system and still win. I don't see how these two things are mutually exclusive.
 
TP800 said:
Of course winning is Important. However, IMHO I think preparing athletes for professional careers is more important. Winning is great for fans to have something to brag about.
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i hope you're joking.
 
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