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I get what you are saying CA, but no coach plays inferior players over superior players despite loyalty... I'm not saying that the players sucked... I'm saying they simply was not ready... Guys like Carter and Kirby was simply not ready... All that can change this year but I doubt if Kirby play instead of Gaines he would have put up the same production... Kirby was young and still learning... The majority of talented and productive prospects usually take between 2-3 years before they make some noise... Players like Reed, DJ Williams, and Willis McGahee took 3 years to contribute... It takes time...
 
CaneAlmighty said:
lauderdaleballer said:
I refused to believe that Golden were loyal to the seniors because of the NCAA situation... Just about all of the reserves we are clamouring for played but showed little consistency to be starters... Yes Cornelious was better than Kirby at the moment(kid hasn't done anything yet)... AQM and McCord are talented players but they are still raw... You knew what you were getting with both players as far as consistency... That being said, that doesn't mean that this year there wouldn't be a progression... It just means they weren't ready at the moment...

If Golden did what many of you all are asserting then it's an indictment on him as a coach... If you have the opportunity to be better you don't stagnate your organization with favoritism in order to appease a few members because there are more negatives than positives...

Favoritism contradicts the entire premise of competition... If the players feel they are not getting a shot then the morale of the team suffers and division arises... Golden is not promoting favoritism. He played the most "ready" players he had a available.

I don't think Williams is better... I don't think he's this ultimate game manager. I think he's an average qb... He has been here for 4 years and hasn't been mentioned by anyone as the best qb on the team during his tenure. It has all been assumptions and a bit of wishful thinking regarding his performance... That being said, anything can happen this upcoming year... Whatever happened in the past is irrelevant if he balls out this year.. I just don't think Golden was loyal to anyone, I think he played who he felt was more efficient... He found a way to relegate Henderson and he relegated Duke in practice for fumbling... If the back ups were better they would have started... Al's actions totally contradict the popular assessment of our coaching staff by our fanbase... I mean, why didn't Cain get any burn... I mean that did show glimpses of talent at times throughout his tenure... Wheeler wasn't a starter either...
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First let's establish that being loyal to the Senior class AND playing the best players are not mutually exclusive.
Hard to argue he didn't do this when the team won 9 games with the senior class getting as much playing time as they did.
And 2013 was all about the Senior class. You heard it referenced every time by everyone that this was for the seniors. The underclassmen were all on board for letting this senior class take the team as far as they can. It's like the team rallied around them.
More than anything the Senior class will be remembered for being the ones that stuck through with the coaching transition and their commitment and work ethic that laid the foundation for the culture that Golden wants to establish. To him early on, this was critical for the long term well being of the program.
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So it's your belief that golden kept the best players on the bench in favor of worse, older players? Lmao. You have to be pretty stupid to think this way.
 
Definitely gonna bookmark this thread to look back on sometime in the middle of the season
 
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Average at best. Will need to be a game manager. Let OL, Duke and Coley do their magic.

Lets just pray that neither Duke or Coley go down this upcoming season....

Hurricane23 said:
Honest question how good do you guys think he is. I mean he couldn't be Steven Morris for the job so I guess that says a lot.
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lauderdaleballer said:
I get what you are saying CA, but no coach plays inferior players over superior players despite loyalty... I'm not saying that the players sucked... I'm saying they simply was not ready... Guys like Carter and Kirby was simply not ready... All that can change this year but I doubt if Kirby play instead of Gaines he would have put up the same production... Kirby was young and still learning... The majority of talented and productive prospects usually take between 2-3 years before they make some noise... Players like Reed, DJ Williams, and Willis McGahee took 3 years to contribute... It takes time...
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What you say about players not being ready is true. And "being ready" can take multiple forms. Some players aren't physically ready. Some aren't ready mentally compared to the maybe less talented upperclassmen, something which I think Golden put a premium on.
But all I know is t he younger players that sat behind the Seniors have a way higher ceiling than the said seniors. This bodes well for the future.
 
CaneAlmighty said:
lauderdaleballer said:
I get what you are saying CA, but no coach plays inferior players over superior players despite loyalty... I'm not saying that the players sucked... I'm saying they simply was not ready... Guys like Carter and Kirby was simply not ready... All that can change this year but I doubt if Kirby play instead of Gaines he would have put up the same production... Kirby was young and still learning... The majority of talented and productive prospects usually take between 2-3 years before they make some noise... Players like Reed, DJ Williams, and Willis McGahee took 3 years to contribute... It takes time...
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What you say about players not being ready is true. And "being ready" can take multiple forms. Some players aren't physically ready. Some aren't ready mentally compared to the maybe less talented upperclassmen, something which I think Golden put a premium on.
But all I know is t he younger players that sat behind the Seniors have a way higher ceiling than the said seniors. This bodes well for the future.
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Hey this is all I'm saying... I definitely agree... The younger players have a higher ceiling but they just weren't ready yet... I don't think it had anything to do with loyalty... It was who was ready at the moment... No coach plays inferior talent... Hopefully the younger kids are ready this year...
 
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