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Honest Thoughts on Mario as a Recruiter in the Age of NiL

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hoops156 said:
we will never get a top 3 class here if we dont have more bags to offer. recruiters are nullified today. time to hit evals as Jay cane said. weve done a **** job of retention and evals under mario
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TrumpyCane disagrees to an extent, still need to be a good recruiter but need $$ to back you up which lets be real has always been the case (illegal bags)
 
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Slightly Above Average. It’s not a knock against him, but that goes for most of the coaches in the NIL era.
 
Minimizes him a bit for sure. This close is case in point. The Bank said 3 flips was par. Looks like we taking a snowman though.
 
It seems as if he is losing his stride, last year we had 2 whales to finish the cycle in Justin Scott and Jordan Lyle. If Mario can't recruit Florida guys to stick in Florida, whats the use. I understand these kids get insane amount of bags, but if the guys OWN COUSIN is on the roster, how do we not land him???
 
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Not every job/situation is created equal. It’s hard for me to think of to many coaches that would put the classes together that he has at Miami. He’s basically gotten the best classes of any program that isn’t currently in the SEC/Big 10 since being at Miami.
 
OSU - 2 losses
Bama - 3 losses
UGA - 2 losses with another coming
PSU - 1 loss with another coming
LSU - 4 losses
Michigan - 5 losses
Auburn - 7 losses
Tennessee- 2 losses
ATM - 4 losses
Florida - 5 losses

What I see is a ton of parity. Miami will have as good a chance of making the CFP every year as the next top 15 roster.

If Mario keeps landing top 10 classes, it increases the team's floor and gives him more room to Brostake a game.

I find it Ironic that 3 of the biggest negative plays against Syracuse were by Manny kids: X fumble, Rivers holding, George PF.
 
MikeCane18 said:
Need to develop better across the board too.
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Tying developing into evaluating. I think “development” is overblown. Most guys are what they are. S&C is the primary development - probably 75-80%

Molding into an understanding and fitting into your scheme is probably another 15-20% of it. 5-10% might be actual skill development.
 
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ssj4cane said:
Not every job/situation is created equal. It’s hard for me to think of to many coaches that would put the classes together that he has at Miami. He’s basically gotten the best classes of any program that isn’t currently in the SEC/Big 10 since being at Miami.
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Facts here as well even though he is minimized some. Told my man, @nycane earlier today that our biggest hinderance is not being in the SEC or B1G.
 
JayCane20 said:
It’s time to be a better evaluator than recruiter or we’re going to left behind.

There is no room for us to whiff and keep pace with the top 5-8 NIL programs
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Out of his 4 full recruiting classes while at Oregon, 98 total high school recruits, 8 were drafted. That is a hit rate of 8.1%. Or on average of 2 players that are NFL talents on your starting 22 every year. Not sure how you compete for anything of real signifigance if you are fielding 2 NFL players on your starting 22, per year on average.
 
gacaneaddict said:
Start by not letting 3 stars leave South Florida to go shine elsewhere.

CJ Bailey
Isaac Brown
Micah Mays-RS freshman that will continue to improve

Few that come to mind
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Isaac Brown wouldn’t be getting any playing time this year
 
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Sebastianspipe said:
Facts here as well even though he is minimized some. Told my man, @nycane earlier today that our biggest hinderance is not being in the SEC or B1G.
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its the narrative ESPN and all the media creates. they want you to not believe your eyes. they legit have bama as a shoe in to the playoffs with as a 3 loss team with 2 horrible losses. They want us to believe UGA is still that team when they would have 4-5 losses without the refs. they want us to believe big 10 is really that much better than the ACC when its just PSU (and USC got jobbed against them), OSU and Oregon.
 
STG said:
Out of his 4 full recruiting classes while at Oregon, 98 total high school recruits, 8 were drafted. That is a hit rate of 8.1%. Or on average of 2 players that are NFL talents on your starting 22 every year. Not sure how you compete for anything of real signifigance if you are fielding 2 NFL players on your starting 22, per year on average.
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Wouldn't that be 6 NFL players per year on your roster if they only stayed for 3 years and 8 if they stayed for 4?
 
Yoyo82 said:
Wouldn't that be 6 NFL players per year on your roster if they only stayed for 3 years and 8 if they stayed for 4?
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He produced a total of 8 NFL picks in those 4 classes. Not all of them came in the 2018 class.
 
STG said:
He produced a total of 8 NFL picks in those 4 classes. Not all of them came in the 2018 class.
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I understand that...

i'm just saying if he's bringing 2 nfl players in per year then the team, after 3 or 4 years, should have 6 or 8 nfl players on it once those classes are stacked on top of each other...

I think looking at the roster this year, we can clearly/easily see 6-8 nfl players on it..

it's still not good enough but just worth noting the difference...
 
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