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blackvern said:
Yall don't understand.. that was more than a bad play thats just bad plain horrible instincts....I know 7th graders who wouldve made a play on that ball. I wouldve took anything.. wide open dropped interception, a trip and fall, a pass interference, but to just stand and watch? That **** worries me way too much..I cant have guys like that on my team starting.If he starts we weill see that play many more times
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Agree 100% with this.

I'd be downright shocked if Rodgers even turned out to be a "decent" full time player. Roll with Highsmith or give Gunter a chance back there.
 
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blackvern said:
Yall don't understand.. that was more than a bad play thats just bad plain horrible instincts....I know 7th graders who wouldve made a play on that ball. I wouldve took anything.. wide open dropped interception, a trip and fall, a pass interference, but to just stand and watch? That **** worries me way too much..I cant have guys like that on my team starting.If he starts we weill see that play many more times
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I gotta agree.

That wasn't even some complicated read or anything. He just stood there and watched the completion happen. I can understand making an aggressive error by chasing the ball or trying to read the QB's eyes, but how do you just watch a completion happen?
 
blackvern said:
Yall don't understand.. that was more than a bad play thats just bad plain horrible instincts....I know 7th graders who wouldve made a play on that ball. I wouldve took anything.. wide open dropped interception, a trip and fall, a pass interference, but to just stand and watch? That **** worries me way too much..I cant have guys like that on my team starting.If he starts we weill see that play many more times
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Same here. He gets a chance to prove himself obviously, but that was awful. I see people say it was just a "freshman mistake" or whatever. No, a freshman mistake would be to have not known where he was supposed to be and blown the coverage. Or to get there too early and get a pass interference. He not only saw the play and was in perfect position to make a play... but then just stood there and did nothing. Didn't even try to lay a hit on the guy after he caught it. His momentum just kind of carried him and he barely bumps into the guy and watches him score a touchdown. Like he was hoping the Chambers(or whoever it was covering him) would make the play so he wouldn't have to. That just screams soft. Hope I'm wrong and turns it around. But I won't be holding my breath.
 
I'm sure he's replayed that one incident a thousand times over in his mind.

He won't let that happen again.

I think he'll do a good job for us.
 
UMFarArcher said:
I'm sure he's replayed that one incident a thousand times over in his mind.

He won't let that happen again.

I think he'll do a good job for us.
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It amazes me how some of our fans are trying to downplay that awful play by Rodgers.If it had been a LB I could make an excuse for him but he's a free safety and his reaction on that play made it clear he has no bness ever starting at FS for miami.The guy showed he has no instints to play the possition.
 
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Rodgers is a natural cornerback who has been making the transition to safety. That is part of the reason he looked uncomfortable at times playing centerfield.

Is it just growing pains or something more permanent? I don't know. But he has gotten very big (6'2, 210 lbs) runs a low 4.5 and is probably our best press-coverage guy. The fact that he's a coach's son doesn't hurt, either.
 
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DMoney said:
Rodgers is a natural cornerback who has been making the transition to safety. That is part of the reason he looked uncomfortable at times playing centerfield.

Is just growing pains or something more permanent? I don't know. But he has gotten very big (6'2, 210 lbs) runs a low 4.5 and is probably our best press-coverage guy. The fact that he's a coach's son doesn't hurt, either.
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thank you for being the voice of reason
 
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i lost alot of hope for rodgers after that play.......................................BUT when i saw him in the spring the kid redefined his body which means he put in REAL WORK...and seems to be focused....

DMONEY stated it already..but the kid is ripped up right now.....finally has the look of a bcs safety...would love to see him take the spot...if not im kinda comfy with AJ Highsmith being back there being a hustle/tackler guy...(he surprised me as he actually is physical)
 
Where I come off is that Rodgers may have had a bad play but what did Highsmith (or Bush for that matter) do that's any good? Who's to say that Highsmith wouldn't have done the same? Rodgers making a bad play doesn't mean that Highsmith is any good.

Rodgers (and others) have an advantage over Bush in that they have at least played in this system. I feel like a week ago I was reading a thread telling me that Bush couldn't even play safety in high school now people want him to be our safety. None of the safeties have proven anything and maybe it'll be a rotating model. Rodgers would seem to have the best combination of physical prowess and experience which is his advantage, but I wouldn't be surprised to see anybody back there and I doubt one guy will lock this spot down especially early on. The truth is that we haven't had one safety lock down a spot since Meriweather and Phillips were around.
 
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blackvern said:
Yall don't understand.. that was more than a bad play thats just bad plain horrible instincts....I know 7th graders who wouldve made a play on that ball. I wouldve took anything.. wide open dropped interception, a trip and fall, a pass interference, but to just stand and watch? That **** worries me way too much..I cant have guys like that on my team starting.If he starts we weill see that play many more times
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I gotta agree.

That wasn't even some complicated read or anything. He just stood there and watched the completion happen. I can understand making an aggressive error by chasing the ball or trying to read the QB's eyes, but how do you just watch a completion happen?
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Yep. That was a football play. There was no thinking involved. Any talented player absolutely crushes that dolt in the end zone.
 
Excellent points...especially the fact that one player making a bad play does not mean that some other player is going to play as well or better. I think the sample size is too small to make a final determination with any of these guys other than VT.

Pennmed Canefan said:
Where I come off is that Rodgers may have had a bad play but what did Highsmith (or Bush for that matter) do that's any good? Who's to say that Highsmith wouldn't have done the same? Rodgers making a bad play doesn't mean that Highsmith is any good.

Rodgers (and others) have an advantage over Bush in that they have at least played in this system. I feel like a week ago I was reading a thread telling me that Bush couldn't even play safety in high school now people want him to be our safety. None of the safeties have proven anything and maybe it'll be a rotating model. Rodgers would seem to have the best combination of physical prowess and experience which is his advantage, but I wouldn't be surprised to see anybody back there and I doubt one guy will lock this spot down especially early on. The truth is that we haven't had one safety lock down a spot since Meriweather and Phillips were around.
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the Rodgers play was horrible no doubt. the kid will get another shot this year (probably from week 1). we'll see if he's gotten better. he looked the part in the spring game fwiw
 
blackvern said:
Yall don't understand.. that was more than a bad play thats just bad plain horrible instincts....I know 7th graders who wouldve made a play on that ball. I wouldve took anything.. wide open dropped interception, a trip and fall, a pass interference, but to just stand and watch? That **** worries me way too much..I cant have guys like that on my team starting.If he starts we weill see that play many more times
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Tend to agree with this take, unfortunately -- this was more Lance Leggett ducking under a pass thrown his way than Ed Reed being a split-second late.

Hope I'm wrong, but that was one of the most inexplicable "football" plays I've ever seen.
 
Pennmed Canefan said:
Where I come off is that Rodgers may have had a bad play but what did Highsmith (or Bush for that matter) do that's any good? Who's to say that Highsmith wouldn't have done the same? Rodgers making a bad play doesn't mean that Highsmith is any good.

Rodgers (and others) have an advantage over Bush in that they have at least played in this system. I feel like a week ago I was reading a thread telling me that Bush couldn't even play safety in high school now people want him to be our safety. None of the safeties have proven anything and maybe it'll be a rotating model. Rodgers would seem to have the best combination of physical prowess and experience which is his advantage, but I wouldn't be surprised to see anybody back there and I doubt one guy will lock this spot down especially early on. The truth is that we haven't had one safety lock down a spot since Meriweather and Phillips were around.
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Also agree with this take. I thought Safety was going to be the worst position on the roster, even before Aravious got the boot.
 
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If you want a fast physical safety it's Rodgers. Does anyone have the video in the spring of him in the Oklahoma like drill?
 
Brandon Harris got smoked regularly when he first got some PT. Hankerson was not good his first few years.

I often hear "Miami fans are the worst" and sometimes its hard not to agree. Kid is being written off and buried for one singular play. Give me a break.
 
canecountry3 said:
Brandon Harris got smoked regularly when he first got some PT. Hankerson was not good his first few years.

I often hear "Miami fans are the worst" and sometimes its hard not to agree. Kid is being written off and buried for one singular play. Give me a break.
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Nice post. Everyone gets burnt on D sooner or later, even in the league. The good ones shake it off and use it as fuel to get better, which seems to be the case with Rogers.
 
I'm sorry, but I don't buy the "Kacy Rodgers is a natural corner" talk. If he was, he would have found a way on to the field last year at corner, considering we had the worst set of corners in the history of division 1 football. Kacy Rodger is another (and hopefully the last) in a long and undistinguished line of corner/safety tweeners recruited by Shannon based upon the flawed Antrel Rolle prototype. They flame out at corner because they are too slow and cant cover, and either disappear completely or best case scenario have a mediocre Randy Phillips type of turnaround at safety.

I think Highsmith beats out Rodgers and Deon Bush or Rayshawn takes the job by the end of the year.
 
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