Tears Gator Tears

[TheOriginalCane]

Not sure if this has already been discussed but can a school really not pay a buyout bc they didn't "find any evidence" that McElteeth and his players received death threats??

And I missed it, what the **** does saying you received death threats have to do with a buyout anyway?

The school is looking for cause to can him.Cause gives the school leverage and saves them part or all of the 12.5 million dollar buyout.Losing is not cause to not pay it.

Receiving death threats and not reporting them puts the players,their families,not to mention McSharkfkker and his family,in immediate danger.Not to mention looking bad for the school itself. This gives cause to the school to can him and not pay all or a negotiated amount of the 12.5 million.

I love that the one thing that isn't "cause" is sucking at football.

Yeah, but that is the one "cause" argument he would win.

He won his division twice in 2 years. He is "only" losing this year because of massive criminality among his players.

At least that will be his position.

 

[MotoSniper]

The purge begins!!! Too bad their class is shït & not one player is worth stealing..Lmao

 

[RVACane]

 

[John77]

The purge begins!!! Too bad their class is shït & not one player is worth stealing..Lmao

I would happily take Copeland, Dunlap, and Gouraige.

 

[doctaj11]

Who would want this job. Win the sec east twice, sec Corch of the year once, in two complete seasons, and get fired. Whomever goes there is going to be in the worst possible situation and under a ton of pressure. Plus their cupboard is relatively empty at this point. ***** the Gaytes. Would love randy to stay or a les miles hire.

 

[RVACane]

It has begun

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They are happy about Gammage bailing. They don't think he's that good.

 

[Torocane]

Sad day for all of us here on the tears thread. We got a lot of mileage out of that old shark fcker, but it looks like his time is done. I can only hope that whatever happens, uf has to pay the whole buyout and that they miss on the top 4 coaches on their wish list.

Rip McSharkfcker, you will be missed.

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We lost a good one today.
He had a lot of good work left to do in Gayinesville
I'm very disappointed by the news today.

This is true. They're celebrating. But... Lets not forget that just a few months ago these same cucks on GheyBait were talking about how they'd be in the SECCG and how bad Richt is and how McEltooth is better and how we wouldn't be good, in addition to all of the talk about our guys flipping to them. We were the ones calling Mac a corch and talking about them tanking this year. Our commits mostly seem solid. Let's not forget that we were right and they were wrong. We hit it out of the park and those Bîtches whiffed.

It's a sad day.
With the shark fuucker we had a guaranteed decay and gaytor fan agony over the next few years.
Now they will have a glimmer of hope and optimism.
And there is alway the possibility they hit a Hail Mary and get a good coach.
Mctooth delivered. He will be missed.

Should we fly flags at half staff???

Absolutely. He was doing gods work.

 

[cubin10]

It has begun

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They are happy about Gammage bailing. They don't think he's that good.

Just a day or so ago they were sucking his dyck.

 

[killa1storm]

It has begun

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They are happy about Gammage bailing. They don't think he's that good.

Yea I won't downplay his talent, Gammage will be a good player for someone but he was already being phased out with the commits of other receivers. He'll land somewhere like UCF is my guess, he's a good player.

 

[SpikeUM]

Stand your ground Sharkboy! Bleed them dry.



Florida Gators ask head coach Jim McElwain to accept less than $12.76M buyout

This ESPiN article says he is NOT fired, that they are discussing his buyout.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Here is what is so funny about the whole death threat debacle.

If you go back to McSharkfvcker's initial comments, he was just tossing off his word salad, as he has done before. Talking in cliches. Rambling.

What he said about "death threats" was very generalized, and easily could have included the "drop dead, Mac" type of comments that fans were probably yelling. He never gave specifics about whether it was e-mail, phone calls, etc. It was just some sort of vague allusion to what tends to happen when most of the fans are angry at you.

And instead of the press or the fans throwing the guy a lifeline (i.e., nobody asked Nick Saban if the press was, literally, giving poison to his players and, if so, why he hadn't reported it to the authorities), everyone in Gaytor Nation decided to freak the fvck out and act as if his words were the most literal and specific words he had ever uttered. Even though the Corch never repeated or added specifics, and instead seemed to back off (just a bit, not a lot), the Gaytor fan sharks smelled blood in the water and treated EVERYTHING as if it were a serious crime.

This reminds me of when Kellen Winslow made the "soldier" comments. Even though football coaches and players have made military metaphors for decades, suddenly KW II was saying something "outrageous" and "offensive".

The bottom line is that the UF administration and the Gaytor fans WANT to misinterpret everything that McSharkfvcker says, so that they can get rid of him. And, at this point, it has gone so far that there's really no way that even the biggest Corch supporters can justify keeping him.

Sad. I was hoping we would have him to kick around a couple of years longer.

He wasn't misinterpreted at all. He unprompted brought up death threats in response to a question about the teams performance implying that his job had been made more difficult by fans threatening his family and players. That's not a generalized statement, why would general fan misbehavior be making HIS job harder? Not to mention he clarified in his second press conference that his family had received death threats but that he hadn't reported them and didn't plan to because he felt the threats were 'manageable ' whatever that's supposed to mean. So there's no misinterpretation.

Uh, no, that's not what happened.

First, the "death threats" comment came in response to a question on whether his coaches should get credit for "hanging in there". So the question was about the ability of the coaches to be resilient to pressure, not about whether their jobs "had been made more difficult".

Second, the context under which he was making the "death threat" comment was in a rambling bit about society in general, the level of anger that is displayed, and what is happening out there "NATIONALLY". So, yes, I was actually accurate in my first statement about the vagueness of whether McSharkfvcker was trying to talk about specific threats, or the way that society (generally) responds with anger and hatred in these situations.

Finally, as for whether his "family" had received threats, and whether he reported it to the police, he made it clear in the FIRST press conference that he was not commenting further, and that he had not reported it to the police. He then repeated that in the second press conference, while trying to soften the original comments by describing the death threats as "one or two misguided remarks" and calling the Gaytor fans "passionate" and "unbelievable".

Look, I understand why the Gaytor fans want to get rid of McSharkfvcker, but let's not BS about the situation and ignore the fact that (a) his first comments were vague, and (b) he tried to soften the blow in his second set of comments. Instead, Gaytor fans are trying to turn his words into very fact-specific falsehoods that are somehow allow UF to fire him for cause.





"Here's the full context of McElwain's comments. He was asked first about how his team has continued to fight, despite the suspensions, injuries and everything else. Then he was asked this follow-up question:

Q: Don't the coaching staff, coaches, these guys deserve some credit for hanging in there?

McElwain: "Credit in this business is internal, it's never external. You know, I think ... it's ... you know a good lesson for the way things are. There's a lot of hate in this world and a lot of anger and yet it's freedom to show it. The hard part is obviously when the threats against your own players, death threats to your families, the ill will that's brought upon out there, and yet I think it's really one of those deals that really is a pretty good testament to what's going on out there nationally. A lot of angry people. In in this business we're the ones they take the shots at and that's the way it is."

Not the response I was expecting. I wasn't alone there. Here's the next snippet:

Q: Death threats?
McElwain: "Mmmhmmm."

Q: Can you expand?
"No."

McElwain was then asked if he was "shocked by the level of the vitriol."

McElwain: "No, here's the one thing. You're in the business, that's all part of it. You get it. When it's directed towards your players, when it's directed to families, wives, that kind of thing ... and yet at the same time they know what they signed up for as well. That's part of the business."

The news conference turned back to football but returned to the threats twice more. McElwain was asked if he, personally, had received a threat. He shook his head and said, "Let's move (on)."

The final question was how the threats were communicated and if they felt the need to turn them over to law enforcement.

McElwain: "Nah. It is what it is."

Why would he bring it up specifically when asked about his coaches if he wasn't talking about himself? And again in his second press conference he clarified that he had received threats but that they were 'manageable' when people wondered why he hadn't reported anything. He reiterated that to the UAA when they met with him a second time this week. Forget the fan base, he had numerous chances to clarify to his superiors and stuck to his guns that his family and players were threatened and he wouldnt provide any additonal details. And that's why he's being fired with cause because the UAA found zero evidence to substantiate his claims. Nobody misinterpreted him, you're reaching. Doesn't matter anyway he's gone.

Once again, you are wrong. You are not a lawyer, you don't understand these matters.

There IS NO "cause". Just because he doesn't provide actionable intelligence to a BOOSTER CLUB doesn't mean there is cause to fire him. That is why there is a NEGOTIATION to get him to accept less than his full buyout.

Look, you can choose to dig your heels on this and believe all the lies being spread by UF internet board administrators. If you haven't learned anything from Houston Nutt and his case, you will soon. No matter what Gaytor fans CHOOSE to believe, the case is not nearly as open-and-shut as the idiot posters would have you believe.

Again, anyone who has heard, read, and/or compiled even two of McSharkfvcker's press conferences will be able to testify that the man rambles and indulges in vague cliches. There is no doubt that he will be able to defend himself behind a variety of defenses. First, as I accurately pointed out, his first press conference claims were couched in terms of a NATIONAL culture of fans speaking in hateful terms. Crikey, you only have to go to Tallahassee to find MULTIPLE fans verbally assaulting Jimbo Fisher, and Jimbo has at least won a national championship. Second, the Corch will easily be able to claim "well, my coaches and/or my players told me what they've heard" and that he just reported it. Finally, McSharkfvcker will be able to claim that some of the threats were verbal, and thus make it nearly impossible to disprove him.

But this is the game that Gaytors and SemenHoles play EVERY TIME that a player is accused (though it is playing out in a different fashion now). If someone doesn't DELIVER THE PROOF IMMEDIATELY, then the accusation must be untrue. Setting aside the fact that life doesn't work that way, there is a long, long way to go for anyone at UF to EVER be able to prove that the Corch "lied".

And in the end, are we really trying to act as if the lily-white virginal Gaytor fans have not EVER expressed any death wishes towards their corches or players? Heck, we've been snapshotting vile stuff that Gaytor fans have posted on the internet (remember that awesome Gaytor fan who said that one of your WR recruits looked like he could catch the football "with his lips"?), and that's just scratching the surface. McSharkfvcker could easily request the internet posting history of any of the UF boards, and the admins won't be able to hide behind the defense of "we erased the bad postings".

Players read those sites. Corches read those sites. Things are said verbally. Things are said over the phone (without being recorded). The corches have Twitter accounts, Facebook pages, e-mail addresses. If you HONESTLY believe that Gaytor fans are so wonderful, and would NEVER resort to issuing death threats and death wishes, you are sadly mistaken. ****, there are plenty of fans at nearly every university in the country that get overly worked up - and that is EXACTLY what McSharkfvcker was talking about in his press conference.

 

[Canefan73]

Stand your ground Sharkboy! Bleed them dry.



Florida Gators ask head coach Jim McElwain to accept less than $12.76M buyout

This ESPiN article says he is NOT fired, that they are discussing his buyout.

They just updated it. It's apparently official.

Florida Gators and head coach Jim McElwain part ways

 

[RVACane]

It has begun

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They are happy about Gammage bailing. They don't think he's that good.

Just a day or so ago they were sucking his dyck.

Lets see If others bolt or at least open up their recruitment.... Jamar Chase, Jacob Copeland types.

 

[Canes2082]

It has begun

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They are happy about Gammage bailing. They don't think he's that good.

Yea I won't downplay his talent, Gammage will be a good player for someone but he was already being phased out with the commits of other receivers. He'll land somewhere like UCF is my guess, he's a good player.

Let's see if Copeland or Chase even stay....theyve been shaky already

 

[TheOriginalCane]

It has begun

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They are happy about Gammage bailing. They don't think he's that good.

Just a day or so ago they were sucking his dyck.

Exactly.

Here is the article from the Rivals UF site.

https://florida.rivals.com/news/gammage-talks-gators-and-more

The Gaytors have had multiple WRs committed for three months, and Gammage has still been a part of their class. Oh, but NOW they are "pushing him out".

It's a load of crap. The kid has done nothing wrong to lose his spot. ****, if UM pushed Sitkowski out, everyone would understand why, but Gammage? Yeah, it's just more Gaytor lies and excuses. Kid's been nothing but a loyal soldier for a long time.

And even if the Gaytors are claiming he was being "phased out", what does that mean about their recruiting? That a kid can be a "placeholder" for a year? That UF will hold a kid's commit for THREE MONTHS after other guys commit, and then "phase him out" with THREE MONTHS left before NSD?

Regardless of the reasons, let's show these kids what UF recruiting is all about. Lies, moneybags, and terrible corches.

 

[RVACane]

Here is what is so funny about the whole death threat debacle.

If you go back to McSharkfvcker's initial comments, he was just tossing off his word salad, as he has done before. Talking in cliches. Rambling.

What he said about "death threats" was very generalized, and easily could have included the "drop dead, Mac" type of comments that fans were probably yelling. He never gave specifics about whether it was e-mail, phone calls, etc. It was just some sort of vague allusion to what tends to happen when most of the fans are angry at you.

And instead of the press or the fans throwing the guy a lifeline (i.e., nobody asked Nick Saban if the press was, literally, giving poison to his players and, if so, why he hadn't reported it to the authorities), everyone in Gaytor Nation decided to freak the fvck out and act as if his words were the most literal and specific words he had ever uttered. Even though the Corch never repeated or added specifics, and instead seemed to back off (just a bit, not a lot), the Gaytor fan sharks smelled blood in the water and treated EVERYTHING as if it were a serious crime.

This reminds me of when Kellen Winslow made the "soldier" comments. Even though football coaches and players have made military metaphors for decades, suddenly KW II was saying something "outrageous" and "offensive".

The bottom line is that the UF administration and the Gaytor fans WANT to misinterpret everything that McSharkfvcker says, so that they can get rid of him. And, at this point, it has gone so far that there's really no way that even the biggest Corch supporters can justify keeping him.

Sad. I was hoping we would have him to kick around a couple of years longer.

He wasn't misinterpreted at all. He unprompted brought up death threats in response to a question about the teams performance implying that his job had been made more difficult by fans threatening his family and players. That's not a generalized statement, why would general fan misbehavior be making HIS job harder? Not to mention he clarified in his second press conference that his family had received death threats but that he hadn't reported them and didn't plan to because he felt the threats were 'manageable ' whatever that's supposed to mean. So there's no misinterpretation.

Uh, no, that's not what happened.

First, the "death threats" comment came in response to a question on whether his coaches should get credit for "hanging in there". So the question was about the ability of the coaches to be resilient to pressure, not about whether their jobs "had been made more difficult".

Second, the context under which he was making the "death threat" comment was in a rambling bit about society in general, the level of anger that is displayed, and what is happening out there "NATIONALLY". So, yes, I was actually accurate in my first statement about the vagueness of whether McSharkfvcker was trying to talk about specific threats, or the way that society (generally) responds with anger and hatred in these situations.

Finally, as for whether his "family" had received threats, and whether he reported it to the police, he made it clear in the FIRST press conference that he was not commenting further, and that he had not reported it to the police. He then repeated that in the second press conference, while trying to soften the original comments by describing the death threats as "one or two misguided remarks" and calling the Gaytor fans "passionate" and "unbelievable".

Look, I understand why the Gaytor fans want to get rid of McSharkfvcker, but let's not BS about the situation and ignore the fact that (a) his first comments were vague, and (b) he tried to soften the blow in his second set of comments. Instead, Gaytor fans are trying to turn his words into very fact-specific falsehoods that are somehow allow UF to fire him for cause.





"Here's the full context of McElwain's comments. He was asked first about how his team has continued to fight, despite the suspensions, injuries and everything else. Then he was asked this follow-up question:

Q: Don't the coaching staff, coaches, these guys deserve some credit for hanging in there?

McElwain: "Credit in this business is internal, it's never external. You know, I think ... it's ... you know a good lesson for the way things are. There's a lot of hate in this world and a lot of anger and yet it's freedom to show it. The hard part is obviously when the threats against your own players, death threats to your families, the ill will that's brought upon out there, and yet I think it's really one of those deals that really is a pretty good testament to what's going on out there nationally. A lot of angry people. In in this business we're the ones they take the shots at and that's the way it is."

Not the response I was expecting. I wasn't alone there. Here's the next snippet:

Q: Death threats?
McElwain: "Mmmhmmm."

Q: Can you expand?
"No."

McElwain was then asked if he was "shocked by the level of the vitriol."

McElwain: "No, here's the one thing. You're in the business, that's all part of it. You get it. When it's directed towards your players, when it's directed to families, wives, that kind of thing ... and yet at the same time they know what they signed up for as well. That's part of the business."

The news conference turned back to football but returned to the threats twice more. McElwain was asked if he, personally, had received a threat. He shook his head and said, "Let's move (on)."

The final question was how the threats were communicated and if they felt the need to turn them over to law enforcement.

McElwain: "Nah. It is what it is."

Why would he bring it up specifically when asked about his coaches if he wasn't talking about himself? And again in his second press conference he clarified that he had received threats but that they were 'manageable' when people wondered why he hadn't reported anything. He reiterated that to the UAA when they met with him a second time this week. Forget the fan base, he had numerous chances to clarify to his superiors and stuck to his guns that his family and players were threatened and he wouldnt provide any additonal details. And that's why he's being fired with cause because the UAA found zero evidence to substantiate his claims. Nobody misinterpreted him, you're reaching. Doesn't matter anyway he's gone.

Once again, you are wrong. You are not a lawyer, you don't understand these matters.

There IS NO "cause". Just because he doesn't provide actionable intelligence to a BOOSTER CLUB doesn't mean there is cause to fire him. That is why there is a NEGOTIATION to get him to accept less than his full buyout.

Look, you can choose to dig your heels on this and believe all the lies being spread by UF internet board administrators. If you haven't learned anything from Houston Nutt and his case, you will soon. No matter what Gaytor fans CHOOSE to believe, the case is not nearly as open-and-shut as the idiot posters would have you believe.

Again, anyone who has heard, read, and/or compiled even two of McSharkfvcker's press conferences will be able to testify that the man rambles and indulges in vague cliches. There is no doubt that he will be able to defend himself behind a variety of defenses. First, as I accurately pointed out, his first press conference claims were couched in terms of a NATIONAL culture of fans speaking in hateful terms. Crikey, you only have to go to Tallahassee to find MULTIPLE fans verbally assaulting Jimbo Fisher, and Jimbo has at least won a national championship. Second, the Corch will easily be able to claim "well, my coaches and/or my players told me what they've heard" and that he just reported it. Finally, McSharkfvcker will be able to claim that some of the threats were verbal, and thus make it nearly impossible to disprove him.

But this is the game that Gaytors and SemenHoles play EVERY TIME that a player is accused (though it is playing out in a different fashion now). If someone doesn't DELIVER THE PROOF IMMEDIATELY, then the accusation must be untrue. Setting aside the fact that life doesn't work that way, there is a long, long way to go for anyone at UF to EVER be able to prove that the Corch "lied".

And in the end, are we really trying to act as if the lily-white virginal Gaytor fans have not EVER expressed any death wishes towards their corches or players? Heck, we've been snapshotting vile stuff that Gaytor fans have posted on the internet (remember that awesome Gaytor fan who said that one of your WR recruits looked like he could catch the football "with his lips"?), and that's just scratching the surface. McSharkfvcker could easily request the internet posting history of any of the UF boards, and the admins won't be able to hide behind the defense of "we erased the bad postings".

Players read those sites. Corches read those sites. Things are said verbally. Things are said over the phone (without being recorded). The corches have Twitter accounts, Facebook pages, e-mail addresses. If you HONESTLY believe that Gaytor fans are so wonderful, and would NEVER resort to issuing death threats and death wishes, you are sadly mistaken. ****, there are plenty of fans at nearly every university in the country that get overly worked up - and that is EXACTLY what McSharkfvcker was talking about in his press conference.

Killa's a Gaytor. He's the only palatable Gayte. They're wishing that they owe Mac nothing. I think each party has some risk but I think it favors Mac because of the things you listed. If Florida can get out with an $8-9M settlement that would seem reasonable given that they're on the hook for $12M and I think Mac would have a better chance than them of prevailing. Just speculating. I don't have enough info.

 

[killa1storm]

It has begun

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They are happy about Gammage bailing. They don't think he's that good.

Yea I won't downplay his talent, Gammage will be a good player for someone but he was already being phased out with the commits of other receivers. He'll land somewhere like UCF is my guess, he's a good player.

Let's see if Copeland or Chase even stay....theyve been shaky already

Chase is gonna go to LSU. And Copeland may end up at Bama or UGA.

IDGAF though, I'm not about keeping a bum coach for recruiting purposes. If your coach is a bum it won't matter what talent you get.

 

[RVACane]

It has begun

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They are happy about Gammage bailing. They don't think he's that good.

Just a day or so ago they were sucking his dyck.

Exactly.

Here is the article from the Rivals UF site.

https://florida.rivals.com/news/gammage-talks-gators-and-more

The Gaytors have had multiple WRs committed for three months, and Gammage has still been a part of their class. Oh, but NOW they are "pushing him out".

It's a load of crap. The kid has done nothing wrong to lose his spot. ****, if UM pushed Sitkowski out, everyone would understand why, but Gammage? Yeah, it's just more Gaytor lies and excuses. Kid's been nothing but a loyal soldier for a long time.

And even if the Gaytors are claiming he was being "phased out", what does that mean about their recruiting? That a kid can be a "placeholder" for a year? That UF will hold a kid's commit for THREE MONTHS after other guys commit, and then "phase him out" with THREE MONTHS left before NSD?

Regardless of the reasons, let's show these kids what UF recruiting is all about. Lies, moneybags, and terrible corches.

FWIW, I've previously seen references to Gammage not being good enough for their class along with another guy they talked about pushing out when guys like Lamar Chase committed.They got really ****y. Gammage has been loyal and was there early. If some other guys bail they'll regret it.

 

[TerragonSix]

Yeah RVA, given the circumstances surrounding the football program, UF would be more than happy to pay .75 on the dollar to make this go away.

A messy court proceeding would not look good at all. Not for MacElwain, not for UF, who would look like in public perception like they were weaseling their way out of paying somebody.

As I said; MacElwain will get paid. I would prefer MacElwain to fight it out in court because it favors us though.

 

[killa1storm]

Here is what is so funny about the whole death threat debacle.

If you go back to McSharkfvcker's initial comments, he was just tossing off his word salad, as he has done before. Talking in cliches. Rambling.

What he said about "death threats" was very generalized, and easily could have included the "drop dead, Mac" type of comments that fans were probably yelling. He never gave specifics about whether it was e-mail, phone calls, etc. It was just some sort of vague allusion to what tends to happen when most of the fans are angry at you.

And instead of the press or the fans throwing the guy a lifeline (i.e., nobody asked Nick Saban if the press was, literally, giving poison to his players and, if so, why he hadn't reported it to the authorities), everyone in Gaytor Nation decided to freak the fvck out and act as if his words were the most literal and specific words he had ever uttered. Even though the Corch never repeated or added specifics, and instead seemed to back off (just a bit, not a lot), the Gaytor fan sharks smelled blood in the water and treated EVERYTHING as if it were a serious crime.

This reminds me of when Kellen Winslow made the "soldier" comments. Even though football coaches and players have made military metaphors for decades, suddenly KW II was saying something "outrageous" and "offensive".

The bottom line is that the UF administration and the Gaytor fans WANT to misinterpret everything that McSharkfvcker says, so that they can get rid of him. And, at this point, it has gone so far that there's really no way that even the biggest Corch supporters can justify keeping him.

Sad. I was hoping we would have him to kick around a couple of years longer.

He wasn't misinterpreted at all. He unprompted brought up death threats in response to a question about the teams performance implying that his job had been made more difficult by fans threatening his family and players. That's not a generalized statement, why would general fan misbehavior be making HIS job harder? Not to mention he clarified in his second press conference that his family had received death threats but that he hadn't reported them and didn't plan to because he felt the threats were 'manageable ' whatever that's supposed to mean. So there's no misinterpretation.

Uh, no, that's not what happened.

First, the "death threats" comment came in response to a question on whether his coaches should get credit for "hanging in there". So the question was about the ability of the coaches to be resilient to pressure, not about whether their jobs "had been made more difficult".

Second, the context under which he was making the "death threat" comment was in a rambling bit about society in general, the level of anger that is displayed, and what is happening out there "NATIONALLY". So, yes, I was actually accurate in my first statement about the vagueness of whether McSharkfvcker was trying to talk about specific threats, or the way that society (generally) responds with anger and hatred in these situations.

Finally, as for whether his "family" had received threats, and whether he reported it to the police, he made it clear in the FIRST press conference that he was not commenting further, and that he had not reported it to the police. He then repeated that in the second press conference, while trying to soften the original comments by describing the death threats as "one or two misguided remarks" and calling the Gaytor fans "passionate" and "unbelievable".

Look, I understand why the Gaytor fans want to get rid of McSharkfvcker, but let's not BS about the situation and ignore the fact that (a) his first comments were vague, and (b) he tried to soften the blow in his second set of comments. Instead, Gaytor fans are trying to turn his words into very fact-specific falsehoods that are somehow allow UF to fire him for cause.





"Here's the full context of McElwain's comments. He was asked first about how his team has continued to fight, despite the suspensions, injuries and everything else. Then he was asked this follow-up question:

Q: Don't the coaching staff, coaches, these guys deserve some credit for hanging in there?

McElwain: "Credit in this business is internal, it's never external. You know, I think ... it's ... you know a good lesson for the way things are. There's a lot of hate in this world and a lot of anger and yet it's freedom to show it. The hard part is obviously when the threats against your own players, death threats to your families, the ill will that's brought upon out there, and yet I think it's really one of those deals that really is a pretty good testament to what's going on out there nationally. A lot of angry people. In in this business we're the ones they take the shots at and that's the way it is."

Not the response I was expecting. I wasn't alone there. Here's the next snippet:

Q: Death threats?
McElwain: "Mmmhmmm."

Q: Can you expand?
"No."

McElwain was then asked if he was "shocked by the level of the vitriol."

McElwain: "No, here's the one thing. You're in the business, that's all part of it. You get it. When it's directed towards your players, when it's directed to families, wives, that kind of thing ... and yet at the same time they know what they signed up for as well. That's part of the business."

The news conference turned back to football but returned to the threats twice more. McElwain was asked if he, personally, had received a threat. He shook his head and said, "Let's move (on)."

The final question was how the threats were communicated and if they felt the need to turn them over to law enforcement.

McElwain: "Nah. It is what it is."

Why would he bring it up specifically when asked about his coaches if he wasn't talking about himself? And again in his second press conference he clarified that he had received threats but that they were 'manageable' when people wondered why he hadn't reported anything. He reiterated that to the UAA when they met with him a second time this week. Forget the fan base, he had numerous chances to clarify to his superiors and stuck to his guns that his family and players were threatened and he wouldnt provide any additonal details. And that's why he's being fired with cause because the UAA found zero evidence to substantiate his claims. Nobody misinterpreted him, you're reaching. Doesn't matter anyway he's gone.

Once again, you are wrong. You are not a lawyer, you don't understand these matters.

There IS NO "cause". Just because he doesn't provide actionable intelligence to a BOOSTER CLUB doesn't mean there is cause to fire him. That is why there is a NEGOTIATION to get him to accept less than his full buyout.

Look, you can choose to dig your heels on this and believe all the lies being spread by UF internet board administrators. If you haven't learned anything from Houston Nutt and his case, you will soon. No matter what Gaytor fans CHOOSE to believe, the case is not nearly as open-and-shut as the idiot posters would have you believe.

Again, anyone who has heard, read, and/or compiled even two of McSharkfvcker's press conferences will be able to testify that the man rambles and indulges in vague cliches. There is no doubt that he will be able to defend himself behind a variety of defenses. First, as I accurately pointed out, his first press conference claims were couched in terms of a NATIONAL culture of fans speaking in hateful terms. Crikey, you only have to go to Tallahassee to find MULTIPLE fans verbally assaulting Jimbo Fisher, and Jimbo has at least won a national championship. Second, the Corch will easily be able to claim "well, my coaches and/or my players told me what they've heard" and that he just reported it. Finally, McSharkfvcker will be able to claim that some of the threats were verbal, and thus make it nearly impossible to disprove him.

But this is the game that Gaytors and SemenHoles play EVERY TIME that a player is accused (though it is playing out in a different fashion now). If someone doesn't DELIVER THE PROOF IMMEDIATELY, then the accusation must be untrue. Setting aside the fact that life doesn't work that way, there is a long, long way to go for anyone at UF to EVER be able to prove that the Corch "lied".

And in the end, are we really trying to act as if the lily-white virginal Gaytor fans have not EVER expressed any death wishes towards their corches or players? Heck, we've been snapshotting vile stuff that Gaytor fans have posted on the internet (remember that awesome Gaytor fan who said that one of your WR recruits looked like he could catch the football "with his lips"?), and that's just scratching the surface. McSharkfvcker could easily request the internet posting history of any of the UF boards, and the admins won't be able to hide behind the defense of "we erased the bad postings".

Players read those sites. Corches read those sites. Things are said verbally. Things are said over the phone (without being recorded). The corches have Twitter accounts, Facebook pages, e-mail addresses. If you HONESTLY believe that Gaytor fans are so wonderful, and would NEVER resort to issuing death threats and death wishes, you are sadly mistaken. ****, there are plenty of fans at nearly every university in the country that get overly worked up - and that is EXACTLY what McSharkfvcker was talking about in his press conference.

Never claimed to be a lawyer, so not even sure what you're referring to there.

But I've shared on here before one of my best friends is an attorney in Gainesville and that's where I get all my information. And he was one of the attorney's counceled before the University made this decision. So believe what you want. If you think any of these issues haven't been thought through, then idk what to tell you. You keep referring to his press conferences when I've already told you the UAA met with him on TWO different occasions and he reiterated that his family and players have received death threats and then refused to cooperate with the university's investigation. LMAO@ hm being able to slink away with vague references to mean comments on Twitter or on message boards. Seriously? That's absurd wishful thinking.