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Long time lurker first time poster/subscriber! Happy to be here alongside people who love the canes football as much as me! The gators havent been relevant since 08 not sure why this thread was created but nonetheless i enjoy the classic south florida fandom on here! #Talk****ToAnyoneAndEveryone



Glad to have you, just be aware of the context here. First, we HAVE had a ton of Gator trolls, which can be fun, and can be annoying. "Recently joined" members are, therefore, suspect. Just from a general standpoint.

And, second, we have had some internal dissension on the meaning of this thread. I've said it before, I'll say it again, it is NOT JUST about the current state of the Gaytors recruiting class at any given moment. It is about the broader issue of how delusional and hypocritical Gaytor fans are about the state of their program, and how they treat us, in particular, as semi-rivals.

So, again, I welcome ANY posts that highlight stories, issues, and/or developments that give Gaytor fans agita and rectal itch. At one point, that may be a story about terrible Gaytor recruiting, at another point it might be about some criminal Gaytor activity, and maybe in the future it will be about some Gaytor white nationalist rally.

But I love salty Gaytor tears.
 
The turds have another guy in trouble. They're thin on the D-line as is...

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He is one of the 7 suspended guys

Ok. Then he'll be in more trouble than the others because credit card fraud is different than what they did.



I will admit to being a bit confused about this. I think it might all be credit card fraud, though this one might be harder to sweep under the rug because it involves "rent", which I am assuming (though I could be wrong) is a term used to refer to an off-campus living arrangement, since if he lived on-campus, it would be covered by the grant-in-aid package.

It is very confusing. You can pre-fund a card, or use a debit card, but many of these cards have a Visa or MasterCard logo, and are accepted "as" credit cards. I can certainly see the UF on-campus bookstore "looking the other way" from a "pressing-charges" angle, but it might be harder to strong-arm a local landlord.

Though, if I remember correctly, a few years ago there were a ton of death threats issued by Gaytor fans against that impound-lot owner who initially pressed charges against the Gaytor player who "self-removed" his car from impound without paying for it...and then the criminal charges miraculously disappeared...
 
Long time lurker first time poster/subscriber! Happy to be here alongside people who love the canes football as much as me! The gators havent been relevant since 08 not sure why this thread was created but nonetheless i enjoy the classic south florida fandom on here! #Talk****ToAnyoneAndEveryone



Glad to have you, just be aware of the context here. First, we HAVE had a ton of Gator trolls, which can be fun, and can be annoying. "Recently joined" members are, therefore, suspect. Just from a general standpoint.

And, second, we have had some internal dissension on the meaning of this thread. I've said it before, I'll say it again, it is NOT JUST about the current state of the Gaytors recruiting class at any given moment. It is about the broader issue of how delusional and hypocritical Gaytor fans are about the state of their program, and how they treat us, in particular, as semi-rivals.

So, again, I welcome ANY posts that highlight stories, issues, and/or developments that give Gaytor fans agita and rectal itch. At one point, that may be a story about terrible Gaytor recruiting, at another point it might be about some criminal Gaytor activity, and maybe in the future it will be about some Gaytor white nationalist rally.

But I love salty Gaytor tears.

Yes ik what this thread is about ive read the people complaining about it and also the people loving it! I also understand what it looks like when someone new joins.. Im no troll tho haha! All i was saying is that this thread is the most relevant the gators have been in my world since about 08
 
The turds have another guy in trouble. They're thin on the D-line as is...

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He is one of the 7 suspended guys

Ok. Then he'll be in more trouble than the others because credit card fraud is different than what they did.



I will admit to being a bit confused about this. I think it might all be credit card fraud, though this one might be harder to sweep under the rug because it involves "rent", which I am assuming (though I could be wrong) is a term used to refer to an off-campus living arrangement, since if he lived on-campus, it would be covered by the grant-in-aid package.

It is very confusing. You can pre-fund a card, or use a debit card, but many of these cards have a Visa or MasterCard logo, and are accepted "as" credit cards. I can certainly see the UF on-campus bookstore "looking the other way" from a "pressing-charges" angle, but it might be harder to strong-arm a local landlord.

Though, if I remember correctly, a few years ago there were a ton of death threats issued by Gaytor fans against that impound-lot owner who initially pressed charges against the Gaytor player who "self-removed" his car from impound without paying for it...and then the criminal charges miraculously disappeared...

It's confusing. I thought that what came out is that most of their players were using their own university cards to get impermissible benefits by making purchases at the book store and then selling the stuff. I'm not sure if that is also what happened here but with paying rent or if the card is a stolen one???
 
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From everything Ive read and gathered:

They used their credit card that's part of their scholarship to buy electronics. The card is only to be used for school supply purchases (books, notebooks, pens etc..)

Then they tried to sell these items for the cash.

The part that isn't completely clear is whether some of them then told the university that their card was stolen to try and make it seem as if the person or persons who stole the card bought these items or if something alerted thr university to them buying items that werent allowed to be purchased.
 
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This should trigger NCAA



For our early 90s NCAA violations, some of the stuff we got hit with included (a) miscalculating the housing allowance for players living off campus and (b) not doing a better job of preventing players from re-selling used textbooks.

For the housing, it was an off-campus situation, so the putting the "rent" on a card (and it is probably able to be processed as a credit card, kinda like when you have a Flexible Spending Account credit card that you can use for medical expenses) is a lot like the first situation, and the "card to be used for school supplies" is a lot like the second situation.

In both cases, UM was found to have (effectively) given "extra benefits". From an NCAA standpoint, I could see the same thing happening with UF (even if it gets handled internally, and does not go to a violations hearing, it is still an NCAA infraction). From a legal/criminal standpoint though, it could get much, much worse for the players.
 
Long time lurker first time poster/subscriber! Happy to be here alongside people who love the canes football as much as me! The gators havent been relevant since 08 not sure why this thread was created but nonetheless i enjoy the classic south florida fandom on here! #Talk****ToAnyoneAndEveryone

Please reconcile these two statements.
 
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This should trigger NCAA



For our early 90s NCAA violations, some of the stuff we got hit with included (a) miscalculating the housing allowance for players living off campus and (b) not doing a better job of preventing players from re-selling used textbooks.

For the housing, it was an off-campus situation, so the putting the "rent" on a card (and it is probably able to be processed as a credit card, kinda like when you have a Flexible Spending Account credit card that you can use for medical expenses) is a lot like the first situation, and the "card to be used for school supplies" is a lot like the second situation.

In both cases, UM was found to have (effectively) given "extra benefits". From an NCAA standpoint, I could see the same thing happening with UF (even if it gets handled internally, and does not go to a violations hearing, it is still an NCAA infraction). From a legal/criminal standpoint though, it could get much, much worse for the players.


I still for the life of me and I know I'm old but WTF did UFAG have to go back and pay Best Buy for the stuff if the players had already bought the stuff,had it hand,and were trying to re-sell it.

THAT's the part that confuses the **** out of me.
 
Long time lurker first time poster/subscriber! Happy to be here alongside people who love the canes football as much as me! The gators havent been relevant since 08 not sure why this thread was created but nonetheless i enjoy the classic south florida fandom on here! #Talk****ToAnyoneAndEveryone

Please reconcile these two statements.

Yea and your clocks ticking....tic toc tic toc tic....
 
https://thereadoptional.com/scoop-f...or-grand-theft-credit-card-fraud-426f49a40735

First time posting here, I saw this last night but figured someone else would post it. This is article about Smith's stolen credit card charges.

"a complaint to the universities’ compliance department, accusing Smith of paying $1,000 in rent at a Gainesville apartment complex with a credit card listed under a different name. Smith is alleged to have logged in to the payment system under his own login, before entering credit card details that were deemed to be fraudulent by the credit card company."
 
https://thereadoptional.com/scoop-f...or-grand-theft-credit-card-fraud-426f49a40735

First time posting here, I saw this last night but figured someone else would post it. This is article about Smith's stolen credit card charges.

"a complaint to the universities’ compliance department, accusing Smith of paying $1,000 in rent at a Gainesville apartment complex with a credit card listed under a different name. Smith is alleged to have logged in to the payment system under his own login, before entering credit card details that were deemed to be fraudulent by the credit card company."

Good news about this is it's a Chicago based company that's not going to be intimidated by the locals....
 
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Long time lurker first time poster/subscriber! Happy to be here alongside people who love the canes football as much as me! The gators havent been relevant since 08 not sure why this thread was created but nonetheless i enjoy the classic south florida fandom on here! #Talk****ToAnyoneAndEveryone

If you were a true Cane fan you would know why this thread was created...

The Turds constantly act so superior to us, yet they have only beaten us one time in my 32 years on this earth!

They also think they are going to just flip our whole class...

GTFOH you obvious Gator Troll!

Long time lurker joining in Aug 2017 huh?

Enjoy the tears!

They may have won the East a few times w/ Muschamps recruits (but they mostly gone now) just to get their **** stomped by F$U and Baga at the end of the season, and if you pussies had the balls to play us every year, that would be another L for you inbread fvcks.

You will be joining the band soon, hope you brought your flute.

Lmao Im a die hard canes fan never wavered in my life! You can call me a troll if u want dont bother me a bit ik who ill be rooting for come saturdays.. long time lurker meaning ive been reading articles and threads on the site for over a year just never created an account until now.. so therefor i will enjoy the tears thanks for the welcome :biggrin-new:
Sigh....
 
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This should trigger NCAA



For our early 90s NCAA violations, some of the stuff we got hit with included (a) miscalculating the housing allowance for players living off campus and (b) not doing a better job of preventing players from re-selling used textbooks.

For the housing, it was an off-campus situation, so the putting the "rent" on a card (and it is probably able to be processed as a credit card, kinda like when you have a Flexible Spending Account credit card that you can use for medical expenses) is a lot like the first situation, and the "card to be used for school supplies" is a lot like the second situation.

In both cases, UM was found to have (effectively) given "extra benefits". From an NCAA standpoint, I could see the same thing happening with UF (even if it gets handled internally, and does not go to a violations hearing, it is still an NCAA infraction). From a legal/criminal standpoint though, it could get much, much worse for the players.


I still for the life of me and I know I'm old but WTF did UFAG have to go back and pay Best Buy for the stuff if the players had already bought the stuff,had it hand,and were trying to re-sell it.

THAT's the part that confuses the **** out of me.



I would imagine it's this - when a credit card is reported as "stolen", sometimes the charges are reversed or dishonored. Essentially, by UF paying Best Buy in cash, it probably sets up the situation where the players need to repay UF, and then it's just a "cash" issue and has nothing more to do with electronic payment fraud, which is a serious crime.
 
This should trigger NCAA



For our early 90s NCAA violations, some of the stuff we got hit with included (a) miscalculating the housing allowance for players living off campus and (b) not doing a better job of preventing players from re-selling used textbooks.

For the housing, it was an off-campus situation, so the putting the "rent" on a card (and it is probably able to be processed as a credit card, kinda like when you have a Flexible Spending Account credit card that you can use for medical expenses) is a lot like the first situation, and the "card to be used for school supplies" is a lot like the second situation.

In both cases, UM was found to have (effectively) given "extra benefits". From an NCAA standpoint, I could see the same thing happening with UF (even if it gets handled internally, and does not go to a violations hearing, it is still an NCAA infraction). From a legal/criminal standpoint though, it could get much, much worse for the players.


I still for the life of me and I know I'm old but WTF did UFAG have to go back and pay Best Buy for the stuff if the players had already bought the stuff,had it hand,and were trying to re-sell it.

THAT's the part that confuses the **** out of me.



I would imagine it's this - when a credit card is reported as "stolen", sometimes the charges are reversed or dishonored. Essentially, by UF paying Best Buy in cash, it probably sets up the situation where the players need to repay UF, and then it's just a "cash" issue and has nothing more to do with electronic payment fraud, which is a serious crime.

So in essence UFAG is covering up their CC fraud
 
This should trigger NCAA



For our early 90s NCAA violations, some of the stuff we got hit with included (a) miscalculating the housing allowance for players living off campus and (b) not doing a better job of preventing players from re-selling used textbooks.

For the housing, it was an off-campus situation, so the putting the "rent" on a card (and it is probably able to be processed as a credit card, kinda like when you have a Flexible Spending Account credit card that you can use for medical expenses) is a lot like the first situation, and the "card to be used for school supplies" is a lot like the second situation.

In both cases, UM was found to have (effectively) given "extra benefits". From an NCAA standpoint, I could see the same thing happening with UF (even if it gets handled internally, and does not go to a violations hearing, it is still an NCAA infraction). From a legal/criminal standpoint though, it could get much, much worse for the players.


I still for the life of me and I know I'm old but WTF did UFAG have to go back and pay Best Buy for the stuff if the players had already bought the stuff,had it hand,and were trying to re-sell it.

THAT's the part that confuses the **** out of me.



I would imagine it's this - when a credit card is reported as "stolen", sometimes the charges are reversed or dishonored. Essentially, by UF paying Best Buy in cash, it probably sets up the situation where the players need to repay UF, and then it's just a "cash" issue and has nothing more to do with electronic payment fraud, which is a serious crime.

So in essence UFAG is covering up their CC fraud



In a way. I don't think it's as much a "coverup" (the world knows about it now) as much as it is UF trying to take it out of the criminal courts, and keep it in the "NCAA violation" courts.

UF can "manage" the NCAA, but they don't have much control over the criminal court system.
 
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