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Coaching Fan Fiction: Could Mario Have Won Natty w/ OhioTaint's Squad?

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Obviously yes.

And before we **** on our guy and ballwash Ryan Day, let's remember he lost 2 games he was favored to win JUST THIS YEAR.

One was on the road in Eugene, no shame in that.

The other was to his biggest rival, at home, as a TWENTY point favorite, in which the team he lost to had sixty-two (62) passing yards.

So yeah, Mario could've easily done exactly what Ryan Day did. As usual, you guys put FAR too much emphasis on what a Head Coach does on game day. Does Mario have that full roster, all the resources, Chip Kelly, and Jim Knowles? Then yes, he clearly can win a natty. Where Ryan Day deserves the credit is helping assemble the roster (shoutout to their collective as well), and also swallowing his pride and hiring Chip Kelly, along with the other assistants. THAT is where Head Coaches make their bones. Not punt or field goal decisions.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Obviously yes.

And before we **** on our guy and ballwash Ryan Day, let's remember he lost 2 games he was favored to win JUST THIS YEAR.

One was on the road in Eugene, no shame in that.

The other was to his biggest rival, at home, as a TWENTY point favorite, in which the team he lost to had sixty-two (62) passing yards.

So yeah, Mario could've easily done exactly what Ryan Day did. As usual, you guys put FAR too much emphasis on what a Head Coach does on game day. Does Mario have that full roster, all the resources, Chip Kelly, and Jim Knowles? Then yes, he clearly can win a natty. Where Ryan Day deserves the credit is helping assemble the roster (shoutout to their collective as well), and also swallowing his pride and hiring Chip Kelly, along with the other assistants. THAT is where Head Coaches make their bones. Not punt or field goal decisions.
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And if it's all about head coaches like some on here clearly would like to believe when giving Marcus Freeman so much credit to where they say he called the defense and golden had nothing to do with it(lmfao) than how was freeman against northern Illinois?
 
Brooklyndee said:
You said one accurate thing. That's no other Miami coach has ever been gave these circumstances. The rest is bull****. You're all entitled to whatever opinions and I respect that. But if y'all just wanna blindly hate on our coach that much and **** pull every other coach that finally achieves any modicum of success around the country than feel free. I'll just sit the bench. Cause this ***** stupid as ****. Every single season the bar changes on here. If Guidry of last season shows up this season what's the complaint then? If Dawson of last season shows up this season what then? Each and every hire he's made WHEN HE MADE it was widely considered **** good hires with only backlash being gattis among the people who knew background. This is a stupid *** argument. I know tons of OSU people and coaches and all of them would tell you until chip Kelly came how they were viewed(other than Hartline)in their own fanbase. But I get it. Y'all got **** envy so every week it'll be something new. Cut it the **** out already. It's tiresome. Was Ryan Day a good coach before this season? You're not making an assumption by the way unless you're gonna fully commit to the hypocrites most people are on here. So you tell me. Does Mario let his assistants call the game OR did Mario and his PHYZICAL ball y'all complain to no end about just call the plays for the #1 offense in the country? Did Mario also call the plays for a pretty good defense & a underperforming offense last year? Just cut it the **** out. Y'all argue just for the sake of it at this point. ***** lame.
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Wow, you're big capping for Mario, but I get it since you've done that from Day 1.

I said plenty of accurate things, in fact they were all accurate. I don't get caught up in my feelings, that's a you thing. You're just rambling on about everything said over the course of what, four years?

Day, 70 and 10 over five years and a Covid year.

I said he lost to some good coaches along the way and Michigan had a good coach until this year, which would be Harbaugh. I also said things can always go whichever way as they do in rivalry games, akin to us and FSU.

He's 3-3 against top 5 teams. 12-8 against top 10 teams.

@Rellyrell did the work, here's his losses.

His 10 losses are:
-#3 Clemson in the CFP
-#1 Bama in the Nat’l Title Championship game
-#12 UO
-#5 UofM
-#3 UofM
-#1 UGA in the CFP
-#3 UofM
-#9 Mizzou in a NY6
-#3 UO
-8-5 UofM

10 total losses in 6 yrs to teams w/ a combined record of 124-16 (.886 win%)

Wish we could do that, but all we get is excuses. You can say the hires we made were good on paper, so then WTF happened here? I'd say a lot of the hires were mid, some dated, and there have been some good ones. You mentioned Chip at OSU, the board here thought he was washed and still living off his Oregon days hype.

Mario has been an underachiever here at double the cost of any prior coach. This year, it's the first you can say he earned most of that check. The results haven't been there and that's a fact, not feeling.

You also want to downplay OSU / Day because of their budget. Bro, our budget is way more than it was under Golden, Richt, Manny, etc and are the results double? People credited Mario as at least two wins better each season than those guys and so far, he's not even 2 wins better than them at this point in his career here. Win percentage is lower as well.

Now at least we can throw big money at one or two year rentals and make up a gap, hopefully we can build on that. Still, you're being dishonest as **** trying to say Day isn't a good coach while fighting the good fight propping up Mario. You look like clown spouting that **** while saying some modicum of success.

Coaches get the blame for losses. You can offer up all the excuses you like, but be honest and judge Mario on the same spectrum as you do Day. He isn't losing to nobodies, Mario has done that every year teams on paper we should be beating. I don't care what the excuse is, this year was the defense. Bro, that's on him, he hired the guy, oversaw the recruiting and portal, it's on him.
 
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Are we erasing day influence on the offense and replacing it with mario’s?
 
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Hufftwoseven said:
I think any top 10 coach wins with that roster. Yall realize Day lost 2 games this year and the one vs Michigan was universally his fault for trying to win in ‘bro ball’ fashion?
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Who thinks Mario is a top 10 coach? Top 10 recruiter, yes
 
SayWhat said:
Wow, you're big capping for Mario, but I get it since you've done that from Day 1.

I said plenty of accurate things, in fact they were all accurate. I don't get caught up in my feelings, that's a you thing. You're just rambling on about everything said over the course of what, four years?

Day, 70 and 10 over five years and a Covid year.

I said he lost to some good coaches along the way and Michigan had a good coach until this year, which would be Harbaugh. I also said things can always go whichever way as they do in rivalry games, akin to us and FSU.

He's 3-3 against top 5 teams. 12-8 against top 10 teams.

@Rellyrell did the work, here's his losses.

His 10 losses are:
-#3 Clemson in the CFP
-#1 Bama in the Nat’l Title Championship game
-#12 UO
-#5 UofM
-#3 UofM
-#1 UGA in the CFP
-#3 UofM
-#9 Mizzou in a NY6
-#3 UO
-8-5 UofM

10 total losses in 6 yrs to teams w/ a combined record of 124-16 (.886 win%)

Wish we could do that, but all we get is excuses. You can say the hires we made were good on paper, so then WTF happened here? I'd say a lot of the hires were mid, some dated, and there have been some good ones. You mentioned Chip at OSU, the board here thought he was washed and still living off his Oregon days hype.

Mario has been an underachiever here at double the cost of any prior coach. This year, it's the first you can say he earned most of that check. The results haven't been there and that's a fact, not feeling.

You also want to downplay OSU / Day because of their budget. Bro, our budget is way more than it was under Golden, Richt, Manny, etc and are the results double? People credited Mario as at least two wins better each season than those guys and so far, he's not even 2 wins better than them at this point in his career here. Win percentage is lower as well.

Now at least we can throw big money at one or two year rentals and make up a gap, hopefully we can build on that. Still, you're being dishonest as **** trying to say Day isn't a good coach while fighting the good fight propping up Mario. You look like clown spouting that **** while saying some modicum of success.
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This 100%. Great post
 
Dwinstitles said:
Yes

Easy answer


When you stack like that you will win. Problem is doing that at Miami is difficult and probably will never happen
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Obviously yes.

And before we **** on our guy and ballwash Ryan Day, let's remember he lost 2 games he was favored to win JUST THIS YEAR.

One was on the road in Eugene, no shame in that.

The other was to his biggest rival, at home, as a TWENTY point favorite, in which the team he lost to had sixty-two (62) passing yards.

So yeah, Mario could've easily done exactly what Ryan Day did. As usual, you guys put FAR too much emphasis on what a Head Coach does on game day. Does Mario have that full roster, all the resources, Chip Kelly, and Jim Knowles? Then yes, he clearly can win a natty. Where Ryan Day deserves the credit is helping assemble the roster (shoutout to their collective as well), and also swallowing his pride and hiring Chip Kelly, along with the other assistants. THAT is where Head Coaches make their bones. Not punt or field goal decisions.
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Is the talent gap between us and Georgia tech/Syracuse bigger or smaller than the talent gap between Michigan/oregon and osu or is it about the same?

Im only going this year and not other years where mario team had the massive talent advantage and still lost

Yall undervalue the day to day duties of a HC and how that HC raises the level of preparation in the building. We have seen talented rosters underperform before, we have seen coaches take over great situations and drag it down before

Like if any fanbase should know how a hc effects the program top to bottom it should be us right? If anyone should know it takes more than just talent it’s us right?
 
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IbzRlz said:
Who thinks Mario is a top 10 coach? Top 10 recruiter, yes
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I don't know who's a top anything recruiter anymore. Not with money involved like it is. You either got it or you don't. I'm fine though if people want to toss Mario in the ring there, it's hard to say definitively though unless you see all the budgets. We need more seasons like this last one though to define a top anything since battles for players don't matter if they don't win come GameDay.
 
E1k said:
Is the talent gap between us and Georgia tech/Syracuse bigger or smaller than the talent gap between Michigan/oregon and osu or is it about the same?

Im only going this year and not other years where mario team had the massive talent advantage and still lost

Yall undervalue the day to day duties of a HC and how that HC raises the level of preparation in the building. We have seen talented rosters underperform before, we have seen coaches take over great situations and drag it down before

Like if any fanbase should know how a hc effects the program top to bottom it should be us right? If anyone should know it takes more than just talent it’s us right?
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It doesn’t take just talent. But Day lost to a less talented team. And he’s a national championship coach who has one of the best win percentages ever. It happens. It’s hard to win every single game you play. Even when you have more talent.
 
Brooklyndee said:
You said one accurate thing. That's no other Miami coach has ever been gave these circumstances. The rest is bull****. You're all entitled to whatever opinions and I respect that. But if y'all just wanna blindly hate on our coach that much and **** pull every other coach that finally achieves any modicum of success around the country than feel free. I'll just sit the bench. Cause this ***** stupid as ****. Every single season the bar changes on here. If Guidry of last season shows up this season what's the complaint then? If Dawson of last season shows up this season what then? Each and every hire he's made WHEN HE MADE it was widely considered **** good hires with only backlash being gattis among the people who knew background. This is a stupid *** argument. I know tons of OSU people and coaches and all of them would tell you until chip Kelly came how they were viewed(other than Hartline)in their own fanbase. But I get it. Y'all got **** envy so every week it'll be something new. Cut it the **** out already. It's tiresome. Was Ryan Day a good coach before this season? You're not making an assumption by the way unless you're gonna fully commit to the hypocrites most people are on here. So you tell me. Does Mario let his assistants call the game OR did Mario and his PHYZICAL ball y'all complain to no end about just call the plays for the #1 offense in the country? Did Mario also call the plays for a pretty good defense & a underperforming offense last year? Just cut it the **** out. Y'all argue just for the sake of it at this point. ***** lame.
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Strong points.

Can you share what type of sideline corch Mario is? Does he give wide latitude to OC and DC?

For me, I'd say HC has key input, but at the end of the day, it's the OC/DC job to make the magic happen.

Where I'mvery concerned with Mario is he didn't appear to make changes/influence when one of his subordinates (Guidry) was floundering from early in the season and nothing improved, in fact it got worse.
 
Brooklyndee said:
And if it's all about head coaches like some on here clearly would like to believe when giving Marcus Freeman so much credit to where they say he called the defense and golden had nothing to do with it(lmfao) than how was freeman against northern Illinois?
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It takes a team.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
It doesn’t take just talent. But Day lost to a less talented team. And he’s a national championship coach who has one of the best win percentages ever. It happens. It’s hard to win every single game you play. Even when you have more talent.
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Our 2001 Canes came within an Ed Reed miracle pass deflection/interception, bounce, and "give me that ball I got this" score of losing to lowly Boston College.
 
Empirical Cane said:
Our 2001 Canes came within an Ed Reed miracle pass deflection/interception, bounce, and "give me that ball I got this" score of losing to lowly Boston College.
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Got pushed to the brink by an 8-4 Virginia Tech team too.

Winning is REALLY hard.

There are 134 FBS teams. How many had zero losses this year?

None.

How many had 1 loss? ONE. Oregon.

How many had 2 losses? SEVEN.

So, out of 134 teams, there were a total of 8 teams who lost fewer than THREE games.

That's 6%. Six percent of all FBS teams lost 2 or fewer games. Winning is really hard. Playing your best, or even close to your best, every single week is simply impossible. Nobody does it.

The 2 losses this year don't absolutely crush me. It was more how we lost, than anything. Allowing GT to dictate the entire game, and then losing after going up 21-0 on Syracuse. That stings to me more than the fact that we lost the games. I expected us to go 11-1 or 10-2, because again, winning is hard. I didn't expect us to lose any singular game, but over the course of the season, we're likely to drop 1, possibly 2. But just how those games played out was more disheartening than the actual result, IMO.

Regardless, that's a tangent for another day, for this thread, sure you swap Mario and Ryan Day, 1 for 1, and leave literally every single other thing the exact same, and Taint would have been just fine this year.
 
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