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Expand the ******* recruiting footprint

I think there might be a psychological shift in prospective college students now days. As my name indicates I’m class of 21 at Miami and I’m from broward. I was one of maybe 30-40 kids from Thomas, CG, U school, N broward, pine crest, St. Andrews, and AH that decided to stay near home and go to UM. That’s 30-40 out of 8k ish private school seniors.15-20 years ago going away for college wasn’t a large factor, but nowadays especially in private schools the growing trend is a feeling of “I gotta get the **** outta S Florida” because more and more seniors are coming to the realization that s Florida is it’s own bubble. I stress the private school part because the bulk of private school kids attend private school in order to attend top out of state universities while most public school guidance counselors focus on getting their kids to UF and FSU so attending those schools is held in higher regard. If our recruit’s classmates are pushing the “anywhere but here” attitude then we have to be proactive and realize that we’re fighting a cultural standard. While I think recruiting the local area is important because our local recruiting pool is so **** good, it’s not going to do a whole lot if the kid simply wants to go away for college. Anyone who has looked at the freshman class breakdown of UM over the last couple of years will notice that a solid 45-60% comes from the NE. Our marketing slogan works a LOT better to seniors from cold weather states. UM’s campus is a f’ing resort....to everyone but s Florida kids, because they grew up going to the beach and seeing palm trees everyday. The whole “come to sunny South Florida” doesn’t really carry a lot of weight with our local kids. Psychologically Miami is an easier sell to a 5* from NJ, LA, GA, etc because it still has the magic to it. For our s Florida kids our biggest sellable factor is just another day at home, which to senior isn’t very exciting.
 

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I always felt we should recruit So Fla hardest, but also put some eggs in the basket of Texas, NJ, and So Cal
 
People crying we need to go OOS more would be the same ones crying if we did that we need to recruit more South Florida kid. Can’t win with this fanbase.
 
954Cane'21 said:
I think there might be a psychological shift in prospective college students now days. As my name indicates I’m class of 21 at Miami and I’m from broward. I was one of maybe 30-40 kids from Thomas, CG, U school, N broward, pine crest, St. Andrews, and AH that decided to stay near home and go to UM. That’s 30-40 out of 8k ish private school seniors.15-20 years ago going away for college wasn’t a large factor, but nowadays especially in private schools the growing trend is a feeling of “I gotta get the **** outta S Florida” because more and more seniors are coming to the realization that s Florida is it’s own bubble. I stress the private school part because the bulk of private school kids attend private school in order to attend top out of state universities while most public school guidance counselors focus on getting their kids to UF and FSU so attending those schools is held in higher regard. If our recruit’s classmates are pushing the “anywhere but here” attitude then we have to be proactive and realize that we’re fighting a cultural standard. While I think recruiting the local area is important because our local recruiting pool is so **** good, it’s not going to do a whole lot if the kid simply wants to go away for college. Anyone who has looked at the freshman class breakdown of UM over the last couple of years will notice that a solid 45-60% comes from the NE. Our marketing slogan works a LOT better to seniors from cold weather states. UM’s campus is a f’ing resort....to everyone but s Florida kids, because they grew up going to the beach and seeing palm trees everyday. The whole “come to sunny South Florida” doesn’t really carry a lot of weight with our local kids. Psychologically Miami is an easier sell to a 5* from NJ, LA, GA, etc because it still has the magic to it. For our s Florida kids our biggest sellable factor is just another day at home, which to senior isn’t very exciting.
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I agree with most of that.

You also have to factor in the technology of today. It isn't like years gone by where you had to write your child away at school or were lucky enough to catch them on the landline.

You also don't typically see people vacationing at places like the place they are from. People want to experience new places and things so naturally kids aren't much different. I grew up as close to one house from the beach, lived in the water, and I have very little interest in that compared to most people. I like the change of seasons. To each their own.

Cost is certainly a factor as well. Less and less graduates leave school without student loans each year.

Anyhow, Miami is for some and not others. Every kid is unique and you sell what you've got.
 
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bAMACANE said:
I have a few friends that teach high school in New Orleans and he say these kids always talk about The U!
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It's not just New Orleans!! It's the whole state, "The U" is very known in The Boot.. Louisiana is very talent rich state, I mean all over this state is talent!! I see Miami gear all around here, ppl definitely know about "The U" here, every where I go I talk about my Canes..

IF I go to the store and I see ppl with LSU gear on, I start talking bout my Canes!!
 
If we want these front runner 17 year olds to come here, we have to make Miami appealing to them. The beach and atmosphere won’t cut it. They already live it. We have to win plain and simple. We have been average their entire life ,17 years, while others have excelled and won championships. If we want front runners, we have to win. Pride in your hometown team is not a huge factor to some kids anymore, unfortunately.
 
caneaddict said:
the negative schtick on this site is so played out that threads like this donrt even affect me anymore in any way
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You would think as a cane fan this would be a place where you could come to get in depth team news, accurate information from “expert” posters and an overall positive experience that excites you for offseason activities, and of course the upcoming season. The negativity on this board is shocking. Especially after the best season in a decade plus. Coaches literally 2 years into their jobs where they have improved the team each year and people on here already asking for changes. Comical.
 
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Still recruit SFLA hard, but never put all your eggs in one basket, especially with the so called top recruits. They are flakey as ****, and more often than not will go where the bags lead them. Sick of those guys using UM as leverage. We need to push back against that crap.
 
ThomasM said:
Still recruit SFLA hard, but never put all your eggs in one basket, especially with the so called top recruits. They are flakey as ****, and more often than not will go where the bags lead them. Sick of those guys using UM as leverage. We need to push back against that crap.
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Go hard after South Florida kids up until the first signing period. All the kids who really want to be canes will be canes at that time. Go hard after the national guys after that.

We almost need to make it like the first signing day is mainly Florida kids, and the second signing day is mainly OOS kids.
 
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Bruh.Man.Cane said:
when Golden did this everyone was at his neck lmao. Miami just needs to win and all will be well.
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We did win last year, that was the excuse for some people here saying we dont win thats y they dont come which we all knew was bs. Now the cats out of the bag, we won and we closed the same way so whats the excuse now? Thats why people like me know its been about the bags, kids dont care where they go. Who the **** chooses florida at this point or even fsu? BAGS
 
Dwinstitles said:
We did win last year, that was the excuse for some people here saying we dont win thats y they dont come which we all knew was bs. Now the cats out of the bag, we won and we closed the same way so whats the excuse now? Thats why people like me know its been about the bags, kids dont care where they go. Who the **** chooses florida at this point or even fsu? BAGS
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We didn’t close the same way.

In years past, we would have lost Nesta and maybe a Pope or Frierson.
 
JMG said:
We didn’t close the same way.

In years past, we would have lost Nesta and maybe a Pope or Frierson.
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We won 10 games and showed life as a football program, theres no excuse about wins because every year theres 1 winner thats it.
 
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Ver said:
Louisiana kids been leaving that state more & more, we doing good in Georgia, start grabbing some of those guys
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But not to UM. It seems we've ignored Texas and Louisiana kids for years. I think we've tried, like that WR we had from Louisiana who went to Bama.

When we've tried to get Louisiana guys in the last decade or so, it seems we always lost.

We recruited Louisiana better when Curtis Johnson was on the staff. He left and Saban came to LSU and the state dried up for us.

I think a big part of the problem was that we didn't have guys on the staff who knew the area. Golden recruited the northeast more because he knew the area.

When Hubbard Alexander was on the staff he recruited Chicago and Memphis more. These were two areas he knew.
 
Dwinstitles said:
They still miss on some guys like landon collins......if it were years before that kid would go to lsu. Its not as bad as we have it but slowly but surely they are starting to lose guys.....louisiana kids are more loyal to there yard then sfla. I think its more of bama just being in kids minds because of there historic run.....everyone wants to play there.
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See my comment above. We used to have some success in Louisiana when Curtis Johnson was our area recruiter. He left, I think to coach in the NFL, and Saban came to LSU. It was easier to recruit in Louisiana against Gerry DiNardo than against Saban and then Miles.
 
Dwinstitles said:
We won 10 games and showed life as a football program, theres no excuse about wins because every year theres 1 winner thats it.
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Yet lost to a sorry Pitt team, getting destroyed against Clemson & losing to a slow and overrated Wisconsin team.

It was a great season but it ended poorly. If we beat Pitt & Wisky I think we would have gotten Campbell.
 
JMG said:
Yet lost to a sorry Pitt team, getting destroyed against Clemson & losing to a slow and overrated Wisconsin team.

It was a great season but it ended poorly. If we beat Pitt & Wisky I think we would have gotten Campbell.
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But kids still see promise thats all u have to see, we weren't getting Tyson either way
 
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