2025 Elijah Griffin 5* DT from Savannah, GA

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Kobe didn't come into his own until 2000. Also all these guys are good but most of them are not hofers. All the guys I named are hofers and for the most part top 75 players. Dumars isn't better than most if not any of the guys I named. Same with Reggie and Mitch Richmond. Clyde is great also but I don't think he is better than most of my name drops. Jordan was great but he was before his time. He would thrive now but he would get his *** bust also. He ain't averaging 40 plus also. Teams will not allow him to get one on ones like he did in the triangle. They would double and get the ball out of his hands. You only had him and Clyde and Dominique who were Uber athletic back then now all these dude are Uber athletic ****. Also I don't think the bills would've won 8 in a row when they lose Horace they didn't have any size. When they got rodman they had three all NBA first team defenders on the same team. The bulls were the most talented team in the 90s and like I said they never went against a team more talented than them. Also if karl Malone knocked down a few free throws bulls might have lose one of those finals.
So you just admitted that defenders in the 80s 90s were different.....Secondly if Harden can **** near average 40 for a season MJ would of averaged 40+ in today's game over his career!! Mike also played both ends of the court. 10x all defensive 1st team and DPOY in what 12 years. How many DPOY LBJ got? How 1st teams all defense he got?
 
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Boggles my mind, especially for a fanbase that lives in the past and was once what UGA currently is.

Everyone rooted for our downfall, why in the world would anyone want the rich to get richer? Especially a program that borders Florida…

I just don't have as much of a vomit reflex when losing a recruit to UGA relative to Florida, FSU and Taint. Those three bother me more. After that, sure, Bama and Georgia. Then probably LSU.
 
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debating Lebron vs MJ on a Miami recruiting board while they got arms shaped like broom handles
Hold on brother. I am guilty of thread derailment but I got my workout in this morning before I derailed the thread. If that is any consolation.
And my preferred analogy on arm size is pipes v pipe cleaners.

OK, I’m done going down the rabbit hole of NBA comparisons. And as a Mod I solemnly swear to stop other derailments from occurring.
 
Hold on brother. I am guilty of thread derailment but I got my workout in this morning before I derailed the thread. If that is any consolation.
And my preferred analogy on arm size is pipes v pipe cleaners.

OK, I’m done going down the rabbit hole of NBA comparisons. And as a Mod I solemnly swear to stop other derailments from occurring.
Actually that is the only acceptable excuse

Carry on sir
 
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Hold on brother. I am guilty of thread derailment but I got my workout in this morning before I derailed the thread. If that is any consolation.
And my preferred analogy on arm size is pipes v pipe cleaners.

OK, I’m done going down the rabbit hole of NBA comparisons. And as a Mod I solemnly swear to stop other derailments from occurring.
early AM with the rest of us degenerates?
 
So you just admitted that defenders in the 80s 90s were different.....Secondly if Harden can **** near average 40 for a season MJ would of averaged 40+ in today's game over his career!! Mike also played both ends of the court. 10x all defensive 1st team and DPOY in what 12 years. How many DPOY LBJ got? How 1st teams all defense he got?
They were different meaning you were allowed to be more physical. Harden got that because he shot threes and manipulated the refs to call fouls. I don't think if MJ played today he would play the same he would have to shoot threes. I love MJ but I don't think he is better than Kobe or Bron. That's my opinion. We can respectfully agree to disagree.
 
In TrumpyCane's opinion he also really benefitted from some amazing defensive performances by his own team especially in AFC Championship games, believe only 1 team scored over 20 points in those games
In AFC Champ Games Manning won, his defense held the opponent to 18, 16, 17, and 34.

Brady’s wins in AFC Champ games, opponents were held to 26, 31, 20, 17, 7, 20, 12, 27, 14, and 17.

So 5 AFC Champ game wins at 20+ pts allowed by defense for Brady vs Mannings 1

Just sayin.
 
Football basketball baseball are all team sports. Highlighing team success doesn't mean mean anything in terms of individuals talent. Jeter has more world series than arod but he ain't better than arod. Yes Peyton played with Marvin and Reggie but he made them better I just gave you the fact that Indy lose Peyton for a season and the following season with the same team minus Peyton won one game. While Tom went down and they won 11 games and the next year won 10 with Tom. We can't overlook the cheating either. But there are more talented QBs than Tom and Peyton. I don't think Tom Brady is the goat NFL player or QB. As a matter of fact I ask people this question if you had an all time draft of all players to play in the NFL and you had the number one pick who would you pick if you don't pick tom then he isn't the goat or best at his position in your opinion.
Last year for Patriots with Brady they won 12. Without they won 7 and haven’t had a winning season since. He then went to Buccs who went from winning 5,5 then 7 before him to 11 and then 13 with him getting their first SB since 02 along the way lol. Oh and he was 43/44/45 with Buccs lol.

If I had to have one game winning drive? I’m picking Brady. If I had to start a franchise and knew I could keep the QB for 15 years? I’m picking Brady. Wins aren’t just a qb stat. But this dude is a winner, he makes his team better, and players want to play for him. Ask this if all thes guys have the same performance they did but somehow we’re 24 again and we’re all leading new franchises, who are the most players flocking to? Marino, Manning, Rodgers, Montana, Elway, etc? … or Brady. I think that is a pretty easy answer for me. All those mother****ers would choose to go play for Brady. Now maybe in 10 years Mahomes will have eclipsed him…
 
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