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Dylan Day (is not injured)

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Ironmanfootball said:
Coverage units aren’t straight line speed. Good try though.
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For ****'s sake, he's correctly stating that good straight line speed correlates with good overall athleticism such as good change of direction. He's using the 200 because thats the only verified number available. It's really nit that hard to understand.....at all.
 
BS85 said:
For ****'s sake, he's correctly stating that good straight line speed correlates with good overall athleticism such as good change of direction. He's using the 200 because thats the only verified number available. It's really nit that hard to understand.....at all.
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Buddy good change of direction and straight line speed aren't linked. Do some research. Two different skills entirely. And agility is the necessary KPI, which COD is a piece under the umbrella
 
DMoney said:
Major colleges pay for a service that collects and analyzes track times, including the 200M. I only knew about Day’s time because someone in a recruiting department told me about it.
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I went and sat a kids track meet for Drinkwitz and Missouri to watch a kid run a relay and 200M and they wanted me to record it so they could pull it and calculate his 10-20-40 yards splits off of it.

They wanted his time before the state posted it public because he was about to blow up and it was the last piece of their puzzle.

Ended up being the kids first P5 offer and he blew up to be a 4 star after having 0 offers until after his junior film was posted.

They definitely use it. That’s also why high school recruiting is so much tougher than an NFL draft even… you may only have a 200M to go by and a kid that doesn’t have a 40, a vertical, or any splits to filter out.
 
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JayCane20 said:
I went and sat a kids track meet for Drinkwitz and Missouri to watch a kid run a relay and 200M and they wanted me to record it so they could pull it and calculate his 10-20-40 yards splits off of it.

They wanted his time before the state posted it public because he was about to blow up and it was the last piece of their puzzle.

Ended up being the kids first P5 offer and he blew up to be a 4 star after having 0 offers until after his junior film was posted.

They definitely use it. That’s also why high school recruiting is so much tougher than an NFL draft even… you may only have a 200M to go by and a kid that doesn’t have a 40, a vertical, or any splits to filter out.
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1- So they didn't want his 200m time, they wanted 10, 20 and 40y splits. @DMoney didn't give us that data, he gave us his 200m which is useless in football.
2- An athlete isn't running the 200 the same as the 100 or 40 but I don't expect everyone to know that.
 
Ironmanfootball said:
1- So they didn't want his 200m time, they wanted 10, 20 and 40y splits. @DMoney didn't give us that data, he gave us his 200m which is useless in football.
2- An athlete isn't running the 200 the same as the 100 or 40 but I don't expect everyone to know that.
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They offered him the minute I told them he ran in the 21s. Didn’t even want the video.

You’re right and D$ is right. They use it, but it’s not the best indicator. Obviously more work is done and more metrics are preferable

Regarding Dylan Day, it didn’t matter what his 200M was, it was Guidry’s guy who was committed to him at 3 different schools. He was going where G was regardless.
 
Ironmanfootball said:
1- So they didn't want his 200m time, they wanted 10, 20 and 40y splits. @DMoney didn't give us that data, he gave us his 200m which is useless in football.
2- An athlete isn't running the 200 the same as the 100 or 40 but I don't expect everyone to know that.
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Everybody knows the 200M isn’t the same as a 100M or a 40.

But when you run a 200M that fast, you’re fast. It’s not just a good 200M time, it’s a great one. That’s why it’s notable.
 
DMoney said:
Everybody knows the 200M isn’t the same as a 100M or a 40.

But when you run a 200M that fast, you’re fast. It’s not just a good 200M time, it’s a great one. That’s why it’s notable.
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But his 100, which still isn't a great metric for football but closer than the 200 wasn't fast. So what does that say?
 
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Ironmanfootball said:
But his 100, which still isn't a great metric for football but closer than the 200 wasn't fast. So what does that say?
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He only has one time on file so it looks like he didn’t run it much. Ran an 11.3, which is nothing remarkable. Ran anchor on the 4X100 team that won states at the small school level.

I’m told his verified 40 was good but don’t have the exact number. The internal expectation is that he will be a high 4.4, low-4.5 guy by the time he’s out of here.
 
DMoney said:
He only has one time on file so it looks like he didn’t run it much. Ran an 11.3, which is nothing remarkable. Ran anchor on the 4X100 team that won states at the small school level.

I’m told his verified 40 was good but don’t have the exact number. The internal expectation is that he will be a high 4.4, low-4.5 guy by the time he’s out of here.
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He's going to defy the odds under Mr. Feld if he pulls that off
 
Ironmanfootball said:
But his 100, which still isn't a great metric for football but closer than the 200 wasn't fast. So what does that say?
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Typically, a sub 22 translates into a good 100 time (most likely coincides with a sub 11 time). Running the 100 that he did could be explained in different ways...was there a significant headwind? Does he run it regularly? If not, and had a bad start, that's all you need to post an average time. Lots of variables have to be taken into account imo.
 
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JayCane20 said:
I went and sat a kids track meet for Drinkwitz and Missouri to watch a kid run a relay and 200M and they wanted me to record it so they could pull it and calculate his 10-20-40 yards splits off of it.

They wanted his time before the state posted it public because he was about to blow up and it was the last piece of their puzzle.

Ended up being the kids first P5 offer and he blew up to be a 4 star after having 0 offers until after his junior film was posted.

They definitely use it. That’s also why high school recruiting is so much tougher than an NFL draft even… you may only have a 200M to go by and a kid that doesn’t have a 40, a vertical, or any splits to filter out.
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Calculating a 40 time off a relay leg offers a general idea, but comes with multiple variables. If running lead leg, he’s coming out of the blocks. Other legs he’s got a running start. Also running in spikes on likely a rubberized track. Maybe compare 10-20-40 with splits of other runners.
Also, not sure a 200M time translates well to football.
 
bacane said:
Calculating a 40 time off a relay leg offers a general idea, but comes with multiple variables. If running lead leg, he’s coming out of the blocks. Other legs he’s got a running start. Also running in spikes on likely a rubberized track. Maybe compare 10-20-40 with splits of other runners.
Also, not sure a 200M time translates well to football.
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Measuring splits was off a 200M not the relay. He just happened to be running the other event as well.
 
AUcane said:
Typically, a sub 22 translates into a good 100 time (most likely coincides with a sub 11 time). Running the 100 that he did could be explained in different ways...was there a significant headwind? Does he run it regularly? If not, and had a bad start, that's all you need to post an average time. Lots of variables have to be taken into account imo.
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And maybe all those things were in his favor for the 200? Best start of his life, wind aided, etc. No one in their right mind cares what 200m time you got for football. Was just a cute way to lace the kool-aid with ecstasy for a minute
 
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Reading all these track related detailed posts be like
 
OldhamA said:
I think there's a lot of help coming next year that's already on the roster - the problem, as we saw with Patterson on Saturday, is that it's not ready to help this year.
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I get it but our starters aint even helping think now would be the time to make changes not the playoffs or ACC championship
 
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