Donna Dangles: We Skate

[NoahZach]

This from the AP:

The NCAA said Perez offered to use depositions and subpoena power to assist with the case against Miami. The NCAA also said Perez was willing to ask any questions they wanted, but that the enforcement staff was urged by the governing body's legal team not to go forward with the plan to collaborate with Perez.

"We found very clearly the enforcement staff disregarded ... the advice they got from the legal staff," said Kenneth L. Wainstein, the attorney who led the probe that NCAA President Mark Emmert ordered last month.


The question here is why? Why did the enforcement staff clearly disregard the advice not to seek evidence through hiring MEP and subverting the legitimate purposes of the Bankruptcy proceeding? Why?

Gentlemen, you may now start your black hellicopters!


(I think they really felt they needed more evidence.)

The Caldwalader report glosses over this point a bit too easily. It points to a series of "mitigating factors" to explain how the staff may have elected to proceed in the face of several warning signs that it should not do so, but never really addresses the underlying question of any bias in the investigator in searching for a "way around" and in getting in league with a witness and lawyer bent on getting "revenge."

It totally ignores the money paid to Shapiro, other than in passing mention. It mentions that the money went to an account from which Shapiro pays for communication expenses--characterizing the use of the account, rather than the use of the funds.

 

[USNAVYCANE]

Page 21:
We learned that the NCAA had expended
approximately $8,200 to fund communications with Mr. Shapiro, including transfers of
approximately $4,500 to his prison commissary account from which he pays for
communications expenses.

 

[jerzeycane]

We've been biting the pillow for far too long on this. We played the game and danced with the NCAA, while behind closed doors, they were doing side deals in an attempt to bury us. Time to call these mother****ers to the carpet.

Lawyer up *******

 

[jerzeycane]

So...can we get a statue at Greentree for Dennis Dodd?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...tutional-control-emmert-must-pay-with-his-job

The NCAA is guilty of failure to monitor and lack of institutional control. Guilty of its own rules which it applies arbitrarily and -- at times -- unfairly.

Take a dip in the deep end of that pool of irony.

Bylaw is 11.1.2.1 states that in such case a coach must “promote an atmosphere for compliance within the program … and to monitor the activities regarding compliance of assistant coaches and other administrators.”

For this this case – marking one of the most embarrassing days in NCAA history – president Mark Emmert is the coach. And he must step down. Even if you believe the scandal stopped at former enforcement director Julie Roe Lach – which it doesn't -- Emmert was her boss. And from Enron to Watergate to Camelot, bosses have fallen on swords.

If Mark Emmert didn't know that company funds were being misappropriated in the Miami investigation, he should have known. That's what good bosses/coaches do.

The NCAA is his team. Scores of real coaches' careers have been eternally damaged for a lot less evidence that what the NCAA uncovered itself.

On Monday, the NCAA announced it had fired its director of enforcement – the chief cop on the beat – for overseeing the use of an outside attorney to gather information in the Miami case. As reported by CBSSports.com last month, Roe Lach approved at least $20,000 in payments to Maria Elena Perez to ask questions regarding the Miami case during an unrelated deposition.

Roe Lach and the NCAA reportedly got little or nothing for their money. The NCAA said whatever was gathered will be stricken from the investigation. Not that it mattered. An enforcement department frequently accused of overreaching, got caught itself.

The immediate question is what did Emmert know and when did he know it?

The question was not asked on Monday's conference call because I was cut off before it could.

Emmert must step down because if he didn't know, he should have. He must step down because Roe Lach was his hand-picked director of enforcement. She was only the sixth enforcement director in the six-decade history of the process – and the first woman. To believe that even any vice president could go down to a pay window and grab $20,000 to hire an outside attorney bends the concept of believability.

We know that Mark Emmert has to step down because if he didn't know, he wasn't doing his job. Not even close to it.

What did he know and when did he know it? That question took down Richard Nixon because he danced around it until he was forced to resign. What did he know and when did he know it? Apparently NCAA No. 2 Jim Isch approved the $20,000 but didn't follow up. Isnt' he as much to blame in this as Roe Lach?

Oh, and the Kansas City attorney (Jon Duncan) charged with oversight of the enforcement department cleanup, is currently representing the NCAA in a nine-year old case against a former Buffalo basketball coach. How's that for objectivity?

Two sources (USA Today/ESPN.com) have previously reported that it didn't stop at
Roe Lach, that general counsel Donald Remy knew and approved the payment.
Paraphrasing from countless infractions committees whose burden of
proof is low, "That's hard to believe," that he didn't.

Quoting directly from the late Paul Dee: "High profile athletes demand
high-profile compliance."

Dee was the infractions committee chair in 2010 when he chastised USC for the
Reggie Bush scandal. Meanwhile, his Miami athletic department was
being infiltrated by Nevin Shapiro.

Who are we supposed to believe at all?

 

[wacane]

From page 30...

By excluding the use of the information described above, the Enforcement
Staff significantly revised the potential allegations in the U. Miami Investigative
Record. Some factual allegations were entirely removed from the Investigative
Record, while portions of other allegations were similarly excised.

I also saw earlier in the report that the main investigator was "under pressure" to produce results in the u of miami investigation. so, to me, the 20% that was wiped off of the record was the most damning evidence... all of the other stuff is minor bull****...

 

[Canestennis]

This is absolutely STUNNING to me and cannot be overstated. NCAA PAID SHAPIRO!!! This fact should be enough to taint the entire investigation. We need to make sure that this little nugget does not get passed over by the people reporting on the story.

From the Report:

"To facilitate communications between the NCAA and Mr. Shapiro, Mr. Johanningmeier purchased a disposable mobile phone and paid for Mr. Shapiro's use of the prison telephone system. Mr. Johanningmeier, in turn, expensed those costs to the NCAA. (Comley; Lach; Johanningmeier; Najjar; Shapiro). We learned that the NCAA had expended approximately $8,200 to fund communications with Mr. Shapiro, including transfers of approximately $4,500 to his prison commissary account from which he pays for communications expenses."

That last sentence drips with technical legal writing. Who wants to be Nevin didnt use the $4500 deposited into his commissary account to pay for phone calls. Thus the vague wording.

 

[Lifelongcane]

Here is my question and maybe some the lawyers on the board can answer: How can anything the was obtained by Najjir be used in the ongoing investigation? If he circumvented the system as the report states, how can he not be labeled tainted in the overall scheme?

 

[zacklove]

I am anxiously awaiting Shalala's official response to this news

 

[CaneShades]

This is absolutely STUNNING to me and cannot be overstated. NCAA PAID SHAPIRO!!! This fact should be enough to taint the entire investigation. We need to make sure that this little nugget does not get passed over by the people reporting on the story.

From the Report:

"To facilitate communications between the NCAA and Mr. Shapiro, Mr. Johanningmeier purchased a disposable mobile phone and paid for Mr. Shapiro's use of the prison telephone system. Mr. Johanningmeier, in turn, expensed those costs to the NCAA. (Comley; Lach; Johanningmeier; Najjar; Shapiro). We learned that the NCAA had expended approximately $8,200 to fund communications with Mr. Shapiro, including transfers of approximately $4,500 to his prison commissary account from which he pays for communications expenses."

That last sentence drips with technical legal writing. Who wants to be Nevin didnt use the $4500 deposited into his commissary account to pay for phone calls. Thus the vague wording.

I cant believe this! Donna get these aholes.

 

[UM2020]

This is absolutely STUNNING to me and cannot be overstated. NCAA PAID SHAPIRO!!! This fact should be enough to taint the entire investigation. We need to make sure that this little nugget does not get passed over by the people reporting on the story.

From the Report:

"To facilitate communications between the NCAA and Mr. Shapiro, Mr. Johanningmeier purchased a disposable mobile phone and paid for Mr. Shapiro's use of the prison telephone system. Mr. Johanningmeier, in turn, expensed those costs to the NCAA. (Comley; Lach; Johanningmeier; Najjar; Shapiro). We learned that the NCAA had expended approximately $8,200 to fund communications with Mr. Shapiro, including transfers of approximately $4,500 to his prison commissary account from which he pays for communications expenses."

That last sentence drips with technical legal writing. Who wants to be Nevin didnt use the $4500 deposited into his commissary account to pay for phone calls. Thus the vague wording.

I cant believe this! Donna get these aholes.

Michael Glazier will rip the NCAA a new one.

 

[Ukcanes1]

Soooooo they're not taking the settlement route & proceeding forward with this BS??

Might as well replace the ∞ sign with NCAA...

 

[jerzeycane]

Feldman's about to go on QAM for those who want to/can listen in

 

[nadiamufdi]

Soooooo they're not taking the settlement route & proceeding forward with this BS??

Might as well replace the ∞ sign with NCAA...

Thats what they said publicly. Highly doubt this isnt being pushed forward at a rapid pace by Emmert and Shalalalalalalalalalala

 

[Fyrecane]

This from the AP:

The NCAA said Perez offered to use depositions and subpoena power to assist with the case against Miami. The NCAA also said Perez was willing to ask any questions they wanted, but that the enforcement staff was urged by the governing body's legal team not to go forward with the plan to collaborate with Perez.

"We found very clearly the enforcement staff disregarded ... the advice they got from the legal staff," said Kenneth L. Wainstein, the attorney who led the probe that NCAA President Mark Emmert ordered last month.


The question here is why? Why did the enforcement staff clearly disregard the advice not to seek evidence through hiring MEP and subverting the legitimate purposes of the Bankruptcy proceeding? Why?

Gentlemen, you may now start your black hellicopters!


(I think they really felt they needed more evidence.)

Wasnt so much the staff as it was Najjar....

 

[djh]

Is it possible for the lawyers of victims to go after Shapiro or NCAA for the money which were used to cover Shapiro's cellphone bills?

 

[MedleyCane]

@ByTimReynolds
NCAA report also says Perez also wanted to use Luther Campbell's defamation suit against Shapiro as a vehicle for the NCAA to collect info.

AMazing what a UM alum is willing to do to their alma-mater.
I'm guessing she is also from Miami.
What is it with all of these traitors down there.
No sense of respect and loyalty to the community.

 

[Bigtip]

Soooooo they're not taking the settlement route & proceeding forward with this BS??

Might as well replace the ∞ sign with NCAA...

Thats what they said publicly. Highly doubt this isnt being pushed forward at a rapid pace by Emmert and Shalalalalalalalalalala

this

the two sides (NCAA and UM) know where this is going and it will end quickly with very light additional punishment for UM. there is no way the the NCAA will try to hammer us now. they know that we have all the leverage and would sue their asses off

 

[Ukcanes1]

Soooooo they're not taking the settlement route & proceeding forward with this BS??

Might as well replace the ∞ sign with NCAA...

Thats what they said publicly. Highly doubt this isnt being pushed forward at a rapid pace by Emmert and Shalalalalalalalalalala

Think I hear the NeverEnding Story theme music in the background. Hopefully rapid means tomorrow.

 

[hasena75]

Dodd is really standing behind Miami.

Give the man his props.

 

[texacane]

If the NCAA has brain one it will settle this thing.

The media now has a story much bigger than "college booster cheats in recruitment"

It has: "ethics enforcement arm of NCAA cheats to prove college booster cheated"

The press won't let this one get away, (plus its just the last installment of a coast-to-coast series of F'ups, by the NCAA!)

A COI will bring on the chinese water torture (damaging leak about the NCAA after damaging leak, repeated story after repeated story) death by a thousand cuts, all performed, in public by the press that above all hates hypocrites.

Loose cannons in MEP and Shapiro! And, who knows who can pay Nevin to say what? what's the bigger story? where can he get more money?

If the NCAA has brain one they reach an agreement with the U, chase some coaches and quickly find something else to do.

Hey Julie, what's the name of the Bankruptcy judge in NJ? I bet you're gonna find out.