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2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

calinative umstudent said:
But the punchline to the UF/Rashada situation is he didn’t sign with us lol - which from a Miami perspective is all that matters.

My real point is what the **** is the point on keeping on going higher matching/beating NIL offers in August - particularly for kids we feel WILL make decision based on NiL exclusively when come December we’ll be in another bidding war whether committed or not?

So for me I think we set our NIL and what we think a guy is worth and don’t move from that in august. Keep recruiting guys and then come November/December we can revisit the NIL offer and see what the fair market price is. This also gives us their senior year to evaluate. Look it’s be one thing if we got their commitment and it locked out NIL price and then in our class. But that’s not reality for some kids. I think for a lot once they commit they’re done. But not all of them. And those are the ones we need to be careful about constantly bidding the price up
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For the most part these kids are bagged up in Summer, hence why commitments continue to climb at an insane rate. There might be a few situations that aren’t the norm (kid playing in a state where it’s illegal to sign NIL in HS, or kid being a 5 star and stating he won’t sign NIL deal before he enrolls etc…).

Rashada didn’t sign but due to him being from Cali he signed and there was a price tag to break that contract. I’d say less than 10% of kids who commit now will be a “bidding war” come signing day. If that’s the approach the staff wants to take they will fail.
 
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E1k said:
Thats leaving out a world of context tho. We signed two of the top olineman and then after was developmental type of guys. Also the biggest difference with that comparison is we have two proven oline coaches on staff so of course we are more likely to land elite olineman way more than elite dlineman.

Also if we do land another top dlineman left we still can have one of the top dline classes. So its not like we have completely failed yet
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When we hired Mario we were expecting elite recruiting. We got that or at least very close to it in his first full cycle here. We were then told that we were going to focus the bulk of our NIL effort on the DL but specifically DT.

We focused on OL in 23 but still managed to land a DL class of Bain, Wayne, CA and Horton. So yes the expectations were that the 24 DL class would be monstrous. So far we have one high level DT committed and he hasn’t even been pursued by many of the big boys.

Your only argument here is that we should have lowered expectations but recruiting was to be the one area that we were to always be elite or close to and why we were paying Mario 8 per. I stand by that saying we should have had lowered expectations is completely revisionist.
 
JustAFanHTX said:
I’m usually not this guy but if we don’t leave with one of Franklin or stone, what did we pay 80 million for
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Mario needs to go full Mark Richt and donate $2M of his annual salary to the Cane Collective.

Would be best money he ever spent.

Get the program headed in the right direction and he'll make 5x that investment over time.
 
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MumbleRap said:
For the most part these kids are bagged up in Summer, hence why commitments continue to climb at an insane rate. There might be a few situations that aren’t the norm (kid playing in a state where it’s illegal to sign NIL in HS, or kid being a 5 star and stating he won’t sign NIL deal before he enrolls etc…).

Rashada didn’t sign but due to him being from Cali he signed and there was a price tag to break that contract. I’d say less than 10% of kids who commit now will be a “bidding war” come signing day. If that’s the approach the staff wants to take they will fail.
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Okay and the question is is Franklin in that 10%? That’s why I specifically said it feels to me like Franklin will be a bidding war till NSD while Breland feels like he’d lock in. I don’t have inside info tho. But from a guy that you feel will be a bidding war till NSD like people are making Franklin out to be, it simply doesn’t make much sense to be highest bidder in August. That’s just how I see this
 
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Mas tech: 13 billion expected revenue for 2023

Yellawood: 1 billion expected revenue 2023

I doubt nil is a **** issue that everyone keeps complaining about.

And Mas, just like Ruiz ain’t the only.
NC_Canes_11 said:
The teams on that “serious about winning” list aren’t desperate for talent. Missing on this kid won’t make a difference to their roster and adding him, won’t put them over the top, they’re already there.

Teams like Miami and Auburn have to pay more and be willing to overpay to get the big fish, if they want to land guys that will take them to the next level.
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But if you overpay now it will set a precedent that you have to continue for the rest of the class and into coming years.

We’re not winning a natty next year with top rated freshman.
That means we will be in the same position to pay the suck for at least the next year at least.
TVD is gone after this season and the 24 win total is gonna depend on this year.

IMO, we actually have to overachieve. There will be other teams that have good seasons too.

Just look at the sht fsu is doing because of money and 10 wins.

The fact that our total wins are set at 7.5 isn’t favorable imo.
That means that 8 wins is what is expected in a schedule that’s not favorable at the second half.

8-4 isn’t gonna excuse us from the suck tax. It’s just isnt.
If we dominate and go 10-2 then you have some bragging rights.
And you better pray that we don’t slip under that 7.5 total.
And regardless of the win total you can not lose to fsu regardless.

Look at all the suck tax tamu has paid and continues to pay and the sht show it’s caused down ther.

Some of these kids have 5 star talent but 0 star intangibles.
Look at T2 for example.
What about the number one tackle in the nation in Marvin Wilson at fsu.
If Marvin wilson was a recruit this year everyone would be asking to overpay him too.

That’s what you call flushing money down the toilet.
You just can’t spend without due diligence.

I think that out of the dudes that are left on the board the ones that mario has the most familiarity with are Breland and Stone. Doubt we get both. One will be great.

Mario isn’t gonna want to overpay with nil unless the player has all the intangibles to go with the on field talent.
If he isn’t sure that he has 5 star intangibles he ain’t gonna sign off on some monster deal.
And to me it just seems like Cristobal is that type of dude.

It’s the total opposite of jimbo who just lets that oil money fly into these kid’s pockets and then cycles them out. It creates havoc in the locker room and no continuity on the roster.
 
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pacusmc said:
Mas tech: 13 billion expected revenue for 2023

Yellawood: 1 billion expected revenue 2023

I doubt nil is a **** issue that everyone keeps complaining about.

And Mas, just like Ruiz ain’t the only.

But if you overpay now it will set a precedent that you have to continue for the rest of the class and into coming years.

We’re not winning a natty next year with top rated freshman.
That means we will be in the same position to pay the suck for at least the next year at least.
TVD is gone after this season and the 24 win total is gonna depend on this year.

IMO, we actually have to overachieve. There will be other teams that have good seasons too.

Just look at the sht fsu is doing because of money and 10 wins.

The fact that our total wins are set at 7.5 isn’t favorable imo.
That means that 8 wins is what is expected in a schedule that’s not favorable at the second half.

8-4 isn’t gonna excuse us from the suck tax. It’s just isnt.
If we dominate and go 10-2 then you have some bragging rights.
And you better pray that we don’t slip under that 7.5 total.
And regardless of the win total you can not lose to fsu regardless.

Look at all the suck tax tamu has paid and continues to pay and the sht show it’s caused down ther.

Some of these kids have 5 star talent but 0 star intangibles.
Look at T2 for example.
What about the number one tackle in the nation in Marvin Wilson at fsu.
If Marvin wilson was a recruit this year everyone would be asking to overpay him too.

That’s what you call flushing money down the toilet.
You just can’t spend without due diligence.

I think that out of the dudes that are left on the board the ones that mario has the most familiarity with are Breland and Stone. Doubt we get both. One will be great.

Mario isn’t gonna want to overpay with nil unless the player has all the intangibles to go with the on field talent.
If he isn’t sure that he has 5 star intangibles he ain’t gonna sign off on some monster deal.
And to me it just seems like Cristobal is that type of dude.

It’s the total opposite of jimbo who just lets that oil money fly into these kid’s pockets and then cycles them out. It creates havoc in the locker room and no continuity on the roster.
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Didn’t read. Is he picking Miami or not. All the other stuff doesn’t really matter
 
pacusmc said:
Mas tech: 13 billion expected revenue for 2023

Yellawood: 1 billion expected revenue 2023

I doubt nil is a **** issue that everyone keeps complaining about.

And Mas, just like Ruiz ain’t the only.

But if you overpay now it will set a precedent that you have to continue for the rest of the class and into coming years.

We’re not winning a natty next year with top rated freshman.
That means we will be in the same position to pay the suck for at least the next year at least.
TVD is gone after this season and the 24 win total is gonna depend on this year.

IMO, we actually have to overachieve. There will be other teams that have good seasons too.

Just look at the sht fsu is doing because of money and 10 wins.

The fact that our total wins are set at 7.5 isn’t favorable imo.
That means that 8 wins is what is expected in a schedule that’s not favorable at the second half.

8-4 isn’t gonna excuse us from the suck tax. It’s just isnt.
If we dominate and go 10-2 then you have some bragging rights.
And you better pray that we don’t slip under that 7.5 total.
And regardless of the win total you can not lose to fsu regardless.

Look at all the suck tax tamu has paid and continues to pay and the sht show it’s caused down ther.

Some of these kids have 5 star talent but 0 star intangibles.
Look at T2 for example.
What about the number one tackle in the nation in Marvin Wilson at fsu.
If Marvin wilson was a recruit this year everyone would be asking to overpay him too.

That’s what you call flushing money down the toilet.
You just can’t spend without due diligence.

I think that out of the dudes that are left on the board the ones that mario has the most familiarity with are Breland and Stone. Doubt we get both. One will be great.

Mario isn’t gonna want to overpay with nil unless the player has all the intangibles to go with the on field talent.
If he isn’t sure that he has 5 star intangibles he ain’t gonna sign off on some monster deal.
And to me it just seems like Cristobal is that type of dude.

It’s the total opposite of jimbo who just lets that oil money fly into these kid’s pockets and then cycles them out. It creates havoc in the locker room and no continuity on the roster.
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I was just thinking to myself, we need more porsters to write novels on this board
 
pacusmc said:
Mas tech: 13 billion expected revenue for 2023

Yellawood: 1 billion expected revenue 2023

I doubt nil is a **** issue that everyone keeps complaining about.

And Mas, just like Ruiz ain’t the only.

But if you overpay now it will set a precedent that you have to continue for the rest of the class and into coming years.

We’re not winning a natty next year with top rated freshman.
That means we will be in the same position to pay the suck for at least the next year at least.
TVD is gone after this season and the 24 win total is gonna depend on this year.

IMO, we actually have to overachieve. There will be other teams that have good seasons too.

Just look at the sht fsu is doing because of money and 10 wins.

The fact that our total wins are set at 7.5 isn’t favorable imo.
That means that 8 wins is what is expected in a schedule that’s not favorable at the second half.

8-4 isn’t gonna excuse us from the suck tax. It’s just isnt.
If we dominate and go 10-2 then you have some bragging rights.
And you better pray that we don’t slip under that 7.5 total.
And regardless of the win total you can not lose to fsu regardless.

Look at all the suck tax tamu has paid and continues to pay and the sht show it’s caused down ther.

Some of these kids have 5 star talent but 0 star intangibles.
Look at T2 for example.
What about the number one tackle in the nation in Marvin Wilson at fsu.
If Marvin wilson was a recruit this year everyone would be asking to overpay him too.

That’s what you call flushing money down the toilet.
You just can’t spend without due diligence.

I think that out of the dudes that are left on the board the ones that mario has the most familiarity with are Breland and Stone. Doubt we get both. One will be great.

Mario isn’t gonna want to overpay with nil unless the player has all the intangibles to go with the on field talent.
If he isn’t sure that he has 5 star intangibles he ain’t gonna sign off on some monster deal.
And to me it just seems like Cristobal is that type of dude.

It’s the total opposite of jimbo who just lets that oil money fly into these kid’s pockets and then cycles them out. It creates havoc in the locker room and no continuity on the roster.
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I ain’t reading allat

Happy for u tho

Or sorry that happened
 
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