2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

[N.M.B. Cane]

Depends how you look at it. If we're going off results than 100% it was a steaming pile of basura. BUT we gotta apply context. Onion was the cause himself and with Patrick nix why it was a pile of trash. Just like with alfraud you could argue all our classes were trash but that's only when you look at it from a results standpoint. BUT real being real IMAGINE if we had ALL OF THAT SAME STAFF,ALL THOSE SAME RECRUITS, yet WE DONT HAVE NO D NOFRIO tied into them... I'm sorry but we had some monsters come through that man personally was responsible for destroying. Just like onions horrible mismanagement of the defense and Nix horrible play calling were responsible for those boys being steaming trash. We can't put everything on the kids when WE KNOW how **** the corches have been.

 

[Brooklyndee]

If supporting the football program depends on who the coach is then we aren’t a serious program lol

I hate to tell you but than neither is bama,neither is Michigan,neither is osu & so on and so on... Reality is it may not be a particular coach or not. But in those instances it comes down to all of the intangibles. You guys like talking about bumbass lane kiffins who's never amounted to nothing as a head corch at all on his own merit. Granted he's an offensive mind but he's not exactly innovative with it. He's just good in that capacity. Beyond that the man does nothing to build up a program from the ground up. That's not just recruiting. It's everything. Same with freeze and **** near everyone else mentioned. So while y'all say we're clearly not serious about the program. All I keep thinking is y'all can't be serious in general. I get it recruiting RESULTS right now are beyond basic. Last season was one misery compounded by another & another and another WHEN IT RELATED TO RESULTS. But without the season playing out exactly the way it did y'all wouldn't be anywhere near happy with this staff either cause we'd still have all the same dudes(except 2 that were gone regardless). Might not see it at this very second but beyond recruiting we had ALOT of positives come out of last season. Embrace a hint of positivity and simply try to understand it's a process to build back up a sleeping giant. I'd hope WE ALL @RVACane UNDERSTAND it's perfectly reasonable to be frustrated & to have some concerns. But let's all try to apply a lil logic when we're so upset. There's TONS of positive things going on around and with this program and university. So let's not say some dumb **** just cause we're emotional about were clearly not serious about the program and were clearly broke. No need to grasp at straws. It's just not necessary.



@RVACane I'm only bringing you up cause we're on the same page hermano. No room for anyone with the bull****. Whether y'all call em slurpers or mopes or anything else. The common denominator should be CANES. Would be nice if we could all focus on that.

 

[RVACane]

I hate to tell you but than neither is bama,neither is Michigan,neither is osu & so on and so on... Reality is it may not be a particular coach or not. But in those instances it comes down to all of the intangibles. You guys like talking about bumbass lane kiffins who's never amounted to nothing as a head corch at all on his own merit. Granted he's an offensive mind but he's not exactly innovative with it. He's just good in that capacity. Beyond that the man does nothing to build up a program from the ground up. That's not just recruiting. It's everything. Same with freeze and **** near everyone else mentioned. So while y'all say we're clearly not serious about the program. All I keep thinking is y'all can't be serious in general. I get it recruiting RESULTS right now are beyond basic. Last season was one misery compounded by another & another and another WHEN IT RELATED TO RESULTS. But without the season playing out exactly the way it did y'all wouldn't be anywhere near happy with this staff either cause we'd still have all the same dudes(except 2 that were gone regardless). Might not see it at this very second but beyond recruiting we had ALOT of positives come out of last season. Embrace a hint of positivity and simply try to understand it's a process to build back up a sleeping giant. I'd hope WE ALL @RVACane UNDERSTAND it's perfectly reasonable to be frustrated & to have some concerns. But let's all try to apply a lil logic when we're so upset. There's TONS of positive things going on around and with this program and university. So let's not say some dumb **** just cause we're emotional about were clearly not serious about the program and were clearly broke. No need to grasp at straws. It's just not necessary.

A good season and some clarity on the conference situation with a destination we’ll be happy with will go a long way. It doesn’t fix everything but it sure will help.

 

[Squid Bumciorek]

Mario is getting absolutely schooled. I hope he uses this cycle as a learning opportunity and changes his approach

Let's say you needed someone for a very important job at a company you owned.
You could either hire a entry level guy and train him up (might take a couple years to grasp the complexity) or hire an expensive contractor who should be able to perform immediately. If the expensive contractor found the job too complex and needed time to figure it out, you'd probably fire him immediately.

[BGCOLOR=initial]If Cristobal, at 8 million per year, needs to learn recruiting, scheme, and staff selection, what's the absolute best argument for giving him more time than what Diaz got?[/BGCOLOR]

(look at all this tasty bait for the slurpers)

 

[RVACane]

Let's say you needed someone for a very important job at a company you owned.
You could either hire a entry level guy and train him up (might take a couple years to grasp the complexity) or hire an expensive contractor who should be able to perform immediately. If the expensive contractor found the job too complex and needed time to figure it out, you'd probably fire him immediately.

[BGCOLOR=initial]If Cristobal, at 8 million per year, needs to learn recruiting, scheme, and staff selection, what's the absolute best argument for giving him more time than what Diaz got?[/BGCOLOR]

(look at all this tasty bait for the slurpers)

There were some things that went wrong but I’m not remotely convinced that recruiting right now is that simple to cast blame. Too many variables out there with NIL plus the conference stuff...

 

[E1k]

I hate to tell you but than neither is bama,neither is Michigan,neither is osu & so on and so on... Reality is it may not be a particular coach or not. But in those instances it comes down to all of the intangibles. You guys like talking about bumbass lane kiffins who's never amounted to nothing as a head corch at all on his own merit. Granted he's an offensive mind but he's not exactly innovative with it. He's just good in that capacity. Beyond that the man does nothing to build up a program from the ground up. That's not just recruiting. It's everything. Same with freeze and **** near everyone else mentioned. So while y'all say we're clearly not serious about the program. All I keep thinking is y'all can't be serious in general. I get it recruiting RESULTS right now are beyond basic. Last season was one misery compounded by another & another and another WHEN IT RELATED TO RESULTS. But without the season playing out exactly the way it did y'all wouldn't be anywhere near happy with this staff either cause we'd still have all the same dudes(except 2 that were gone regardless). Might not see it at this very second but beyond recruiting we had ALOT of positives come out of last season. Embrace a hint of positivity and simply try to understand it's a process to build back up a sleeping giant. I'd hope WE ALL @RVACane UNDERSTAND it's perfectly reasonable to be frustrated & to have some concerns. But let's all try to apply a lil logic when we're so upset. There's TONS of positive things going on around and with this program and university. So let's not say some dumb **** just cause we're emotional about were clearly not serious about the program and were clearly broke. No need to grasp at straws. It's just not necessary.



@RVACane I'm only bringing you up cause we're on the same page hermano. No room for anyone with the bull****. Whether y'all call em slurpers or mopes or anything else. The common denominator should be CANES. Would be nice if we could all focus on that.

Its funny u downplay every other coaches abilities but will die for mario lol I respect it because he’s a true cane like u but it’s getting laughable at this point. To say lane isn’t innovative (i didnt even mentioned him btw) on offense is just complete bull****, and wtf is mario innovative at lol? You have said kirby isn’t that good before lol well wtf is mario then? I never have mentioned freeze but if these coaches are so mid to you wtf is mario? Its like u feel u have to down talk other coaches to big up mario lol. Mario is a good coach he doesn’t need u typing paragraphs every time u feel someone is criticizing him.

What i said was in response to someone saying getting mario meant the donors would start spending more. I feel it shouldn’t matter who the coach is if these people want the program to succeed it shouldn’t have took mario coming here for them to put their best foot forward. If there is bias with who is gonna spend then we aren’t handling things like a serious program. We shouldn’t have people making the decisions saying there only goal was to get mario and rad, have we not learned from that way of thinking?? Shouldn’t we conduct a full search and find the best guy for the job instead of just going with who they have relationships with?

For example why did mario have to come for us to build a football facility and pour resources into football. There’s programs that have been even worse than us but at least they aren’t waiting for a coach to put in his contract that we need a bigger ipf or new facilities and more resources for football. Thats bs and exactly why our football program has fallen so far

Idk why u think im not positive, i have said im gonna give mario and all of them time that doesn’t mean i have to slurp him and bark at any criticism like you do.

 

[RVACane]

Oh @PIPO OOOOOOOO…

 

[FrancisSawyer]

Yea I agree its going to be Zaquan but D Money said we would move up in the rankings and Cribby yesterday said we would string a couple of commitments. Hoping its Zaquan, Stone and Jackson.

Your dreaming!

 

[RVACane]

Your dreaming!

Hope you’re not expecting a response anytime soon.

 

[Brooklyndee]

Its funny u downplay every other coaches abilities but will die for mario lol I respect it because he’s a true cane like u but it’s getting laughable at this point. To say lane isn’t innovative (i didnt even mentioned him btw) on offense is just complete bull****, and wtf is mario innovative at lol? You have said kirby isn’t that good before lol well wtf is mario then? I never have mentioned freeze but if these coaches are so mid to you wtf is mario? Its like u feel u have to down talk other coaches to big up mario lol. Mario is a good coach he doesn’t need u typing paragraphs every time u feel someone is criticizing him.

What i said was in response to someone saying getting mario meant the donors would start spending more. I feel it shouldn’t matter who the coach is if these people want the program to succeed it shouldn’t have took mario coming here for them to put their best foot forward. If there is bias with who is gonna spend then we aren’t handling things like a serious program. We shouldn’t have people making the decisions saying there only goal was to get mario and rad, have we not learned from that way of thinking?? Shouldn’t we conduct a full search and find the best guy for the job instead of just going with who they have relationships with?

For example why did mario have to come for us to build a football facility and pour resources into football. There’s programs that have been even worse than us but at least they aren’t waiting for a coach to put in his contract that we need a bigger ipf or new facilities and more resources for football. Thats bs and exactly why our football program has fallen so far

Idk why u think im not positive, i have said im gonna give mario and all of them time that doesn’t mean i have to slurp him and bark at any criticism like you do.

I don't wanna get into the back and forth. If you paid any attention to my paragraphs after yours you'd know I've been plenty critical of Mario. You ATTACKING ME won't make me say any more clearly what I already have. No clue what your stance has been on anything. I was responding to one statement without any clue to any of the rest of it. Those slick comments don't mean much to me by the way... The computer makes the biggest of killers.

 

[Brooklyndee]

Let's say you needed someone for a very important job at a company you owned.
You could either hire a entry level guy and train him up (might take a couple years to grasp the complexity) or hire an expensive contractor who should be able to perform immediately. If the expensive contractor found the job too complex and needed time to figure it out, you'd probably fire him immediately.

[BGCOLOR=initial]If Cristobal, at 8 million per year, needs to learn recruiting, scheme, and staff selection, what's the absolute best argument for giving him more time than what Diaz got?[/BGCOLOR]

(look at all this tasty bait for the slurpers)

I'm curious how this isn't viewed as a form of attack when people flat out state they are baiting people? Speak ur piece and move on. If you're not fighting ur own fights than don't provoke them either.

 

[E1k]

I don't wanna get into the back and forth. If you paid any attention to my paragraphs after yours you'd know I've been plenty critical of Mario. You ATTACKING ME won't make me say any more clearly what I already have. No clue what your stance has been on anything. I was responding to one statement without any clue to any of the rest of it. Those slick comments don't mean much to me by the way... The computer makes the biggest of killers.

So u dont think a direct response to someone should be talking about what i was responding to lol? Like this is my point u thought i was criticizing mario and replied without knowing wtf i was speaking on.

I didn’t ask for a back n forth and im not attacking you at all, they not slick comments i said exactly what i meant maybe u shouldn’t talk without knowing the rest of the context lol u brought up lane and freeze for no reason because u thought someone was talking down mario.

And i dont need the computer or anything to make me something im not, nobody said anything about being a killer or tough im simply talking about football and you jumping out the window over anything u think is slander to mario

 

[RVACane]

You guys up counting sheep too???

 

[SWFLHurricane]

Huh? Wild take. That class was loaded.
3 five stars (#1DT, #1LB, #2CB)

9 players ranked in the top 75 composite.
15 players ranked in the top 250 composite.

Mario does that within next 3 years and I’ll claim #6 is on its way.

Wayyyyyyyy overrated....Wayyyyyy LBer Top Heavy....q

You guys up counting sheep too???

No I'm drinking a Cuban Coffee....

 

[Squid Bumciorek]

I'm curious how this isn't viewed as a form of attack when people flat out state they are baiting people? Speak ur piece and move on. If you're not fighting ur own fights than don't provoke them either.

It's a joke. I committed the cardinal sin of comparing Cristobal and Diaz, and I knew the slurpers were going to jump all over me. It was not a direct challenge to anyone but if it triggered you, I apologize and will be sure to put a spoiler tag in future so you don't have to see it.

 

[kccanefan]

So u dont think a direct response to someone should be talking about what i was responding to lol? Like this is my point u thought i was criticizing mario and replied without knowing wtf i was speaking on.

I didn’t ask for a back n forth and im not attacking you at all, they not slick comments i said exactly what i meant maybe u shouldn’t talk without knowing the rest of the context lol u brought up lane and freeze for no reason because u thought someone was talking down mario.

And i dont need the computer or anything to make me something im not, nobody said anything about being a killer or tough im simply talking about football and you jumping out the window over anything u think is slander to mario

I believe he brought up Lane and Freeze because myself and others have brought them up in past conversations. In addition, it looks as if Freeze is getting Franklin and cleaning up in recruiting for Auburn. Which I believe has more to do with NIL.

All that said he’s defending a teammate which is not unexpected. My concern with Mario is that his biggest asset is/was his recruiting. Unfortunately, NIL has negated some of that advantage. He’s not better at X’s and O’s compared to Lane and Freeze. That’s just facts. Mario has to make sure he hits on his staff where they mesh and his coordinators. That didn’t happen last year obviously.

 

[Fluffhead]

If supporting the football program depends on who the coach is then we aren’t a serious program lol

I mean sure, but Bama didn’t toss money until Saban, Auburn’s boosters issues with Harsin were well documented, it took Mack Brown for UNC to spend, and tons of other examples, but we can go myopic and do what we usually do.

 

[BrentIsACuckGBRsucks]

Now u see what I been saying? Why bother? At a certain point doing nothing but trying to help other STRANGERS & keep them informed simply leads to nothing but headaches. So why bother to put all these headaches on yourself.

Internet clout. Thats free dopamine & I bet its a rush when he drops that Steph gif & CIS goes wild

 

[MiamiChris]

Gaby said auburn is the team to beat

Gaby also hyped up Simmons all day. Gaby doesn’t know crap in general. Dude has been off all summer.

 

[Gables Canes]