Desperation

[hesskilla]

This is a shallow dive. We went 10-2 due to Lady Luck and Cam Ward. Thats it! It’s not a trajectory. It doesn’t mean we will now go 11-1 next year. It’s a false metric. Can we please stop pretending it’s because we built a strong foundation.

Ask yourself what our record would be without Cam and a few lucky bounces, 7-5?

Which players do you want to take away from Mario to discredit our season? Does he not get credit for recruiting Cam Ward? Are there any other players he signed that shouldn’t count? If we didn’t get an A+++ QB, would you have blamed Mario for that? If so, then you must also give him his flowers when he does get Cam Ward. He also gets credit for Wards accomplishments. That’s called recruiting.

You are moving goalposts to support YOUR narrative!!!

 

[edge]

The end of the season and our “close” on signing day has left this fan base in utter shambles. Add in the fact that we seem trapped in a dying conference….and wow…the sky seems to be falling.

And yes, blah blah blah — we went 10-2. Well, it sure as **** doesn’t feel that way. Were the most depressed fan base in Florida right now, even though we had the best season and are state champs.

Florida State gave their fan base hope by making substantial staff changes. Florida is riding the Lagway hype train. What the **** are we excited about?

Mario is getting paid a lot of money. He needs to figure out how to generate some momentum. Things are only going to get worse at noon when it’s announced officially we’re playing in some third-tier bowl game that no one gives a **** about.

Whether it’s portal additions or staff changes, Mario need to give this fan base a reason to believe again, or it’s going to be the most depressing off season since before 2015 when Golden was a dead man walking.

5 - 7 -10, maybe 11.

What more momentum do you need? I want wins. Not offseason wins.

 

[LoungeLord]

Which players do you want to take away from Mario to discredit our season? Does he not get credit for recruiting Cam Ward? Are there any other players he signed that shouldn’t count? If we didn’t get an A+++ QB, would you have blamed Mario for that? If so, then you must also give him his flowers when he does get Cam Ward. He also gets credit for Wards accomplishments. That’s called recruiting.

You are moving goalposts to support YOUR narrative!!!

Which players do you want to take away from Mario to discredit our season? Does he not get credit for recruiting Cam Ward? Are there any other players he signed that shouldn’t count? If we didn’t get an A+++ QB, would you have blamed Mario for that? If so, then you must also give him his flowers when he does get Cam Ward. He also gets credit for Wards accomplishments. That’s called recruiting.

You are moving goalposts to support YOUR narrative!!!

Sure he gets credit for recruit . But you have to admit he also got lucky as **** in the portal. Will lightning strike twice? You putting money on that?

Even if he did, we can clearly see what his ceiling is, even with a qb like cam. He’d have to have a 5 star at every position in order to overcome himself.

 

[hesskilla]

Sure he gets credit for recruit . But you have to admit he also got lucky as **** in the portal. Will lightning strike twice? You putting money on that?

Even if he did, we can clearly see what his ceiling is, even with a qb like cam. He’d have to have a 5 star at every position in order to overcome himself.

It’s pretty simple, really. I’ll complain and be an *** hat when we have bad seasons. This year was not one of them. I’m I concerned? Sure. Not enough to complain about it non stop on here though. I’m still on team Mario.

 

[Hurracanes]

It’s all perspective. If I didn’t come to this website, I would have no clue how many babies we have in our fan base. You put one foot in front of the other and eventually you are running. Complaining about how cold it is outside doesn’t help anyone. Just makes the person *****ing feel better about themselves.

I will not be depressed this off season. We just went 10-2. We had the #1 offense in the country. Coach has lots of flaws, but he does work on fixing them. I’m sure improving the defense will be a priority this offseason. In hindsight, we probably should have paid JHH whatever he wanted.

I personally like the trajectory of the program. I think Mario has completely revamped the LOS. This allows us to be competitive in all games no matter what situation will arise.

I think once Mario can fix our DL( like he has the OL) then Miami will be in position to make noise. I am concerned it’s taking this long.

 

[caneworld]

Entice, cajole, bribe, whatever it takes to get J Smith in from OSU via portal and we are in the playoffs next year with Emory... as simple as that.

 

[grover]

5 - 7 -10, maybe 11.

What more momentum do you need? I want wins. Not offseason wins.

We wasted a historically good starting QB because of epically bad defensive play. But that trajectory looks perfectly reasonable if it continues in 2025. Find a Top10 QB, WR, LB, DT, plus a full replacement of the secondary with playoff-caliber talent, and then let's see how things play out. That's a lot to ask out of the portal.

 

[hesskilla]

I think once Mario can fix our DL( like he has the OL) then Miami will be in position to make noise. I am concerned it’s taking this long.

There are both positive and negative signs here too. I’m hoping the young guys can step up since we didn’t go hard on HS DL recruiting this year. This is a position that is difficult to win in the portal.

 

[edge]

We wasted a historically good starting QB because of epically bad defensive play. But that trajectory looks perfectly reasonable if it continues in 2025. Find a Top10 QB, WR, LB, DT, plus a full replacement of the secondary with playoff-caliber talent, and then let's see how things play out. That's a lot to ask out of the portal.

The standard is double digit wins going forward. Next year we need an ACC championship and of course a playoff invite.

 

[sdaly12]

If you are 90% of the Miami fan base you can not be happy unless it’s 2001.

If you have an IQ above 80 you see 10 wins- maybe 11 as massive progress.

You also don’t panic about next year yet because you don’t know what the roster or coaching staff will look like. Mario moves slow in coaching changes. If you don’t know that by now you are dumb and that’s on you. At this point last year we were hoping a glorified TE would hang around for a bowl game. There was no cam ward yet.

I’ve grown so tired of the nonstop negativity in the fan base. It’s exhausting.

agree, this is/was a difficult build which we fans tend to forget due to the precious present mentality of delusional fan bases all over US. get a few key portal signings
change your D staff or change the scheme and we will be ok. the downside of portal is lack of depth for all programs meaning the 10 win season was more difficult than in past years for every program. not sure i will ever trust mario 100% but Mario will leave program in better shape than anyone of HC's of past 20 years since Butch.
yes that includes Coker,

 

[sdaly12]

At this point, I liken this season to the 2013 season after the Champs Sports Bowl after Golden, who was looking for his 10th win, got throttled by Louisville. The board was similar to how it is now. Some were basically telling others to be quiet and how stupid they were because Golden went from 6 wins, to 7 wins to 9 wins for a whopping 22-15 record over three years (sound familiar?) and that there was "obvious progress." Others highlighted that Stephen Morris, Phillip Dorsett and other key Contributors would be gone and that with such a weak 2013 schedule (which had an early season win over an overrated Florida squad...sound familiar?), the time to make a true run was then and that the truth about the record was a lie. Then, the 2014 season happened and Miami went 6-7. Like I said, this is a hamster wheel. In the words of Battlestar Galactica, this has all happened before and it will happen again. If you study history, in particular modern Miami Hurricanes History, you know how this story eventually ends.

PS: Golden was also a "good recruiter" and had top 15 classes in 2012, 2013, and 2014. That is all.

Golden has turned out to be a very good DC at ND maybe that his role in life

 

[hurricaneman]

Florida State gave their fan base hope by making substantial staff changes.

 

[Trav]

I don't know man. Before the season I'd say 95% of the board said they'd be happy with 10 wins and beating UF/FSU. But timing is everything I guess. People would be happier if we won 8 or 9 but won the last one? We met the benchmarks just about everyone said they wanted to be happy and no one's happy.

 

[LoungeLord]

It’s pretty simple, really. I’ll complain and be an *** hat when we have bad seasons. This year was not one of them. I’m I concerned? Sure. Not enough to complain about it non stop on here though. I’m still on team Mario.

If you think the season wasn’t a complete disappointment based on the potential we had all because we won 10 games against the worst schedule we’ve ever had, I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[hoops156]

Less of a Mario thing at this point. He is who he is - light bulb isn’t going to magically go off. He’ll say his buzzwords, yada yada yet status quo will ensue.

Waiting for “we’ll make a full assessment of where we are at, as we continuously evaluate how to improve.”

“We need to teach discipline and physicality” yet one of most penalized teams.

He is over his skis. Ceiling is lower than the skirt on a bang bus girl

hes a better recruiting Manny that isnt that useful anymore bc of NIL. even Manny can be a good recruiter (it inst like Mario hit on a lot of classes so far and even at Oregon) with NIL now. we are in the same spot we were after year 2 with Manny. we even start next year w a tough schedule that doomed Manny in year 3. theyre both the same record at miami.

 

[MiamiCanesFan77]

I don't know man. Before the season I'd say 95% of the board said they'd be happy with 10 wins and beating UF/FSU. But timing is everything I guess. People would be happier if we won 8 or 9 but won the last one? We met the benchmarks just about everyone said they wanted to be happy and no one's happy.

It’s about getting to the ACC Championship Game and the CFP… not about an arbitrary 10 wins threshold.

Cristofail failed miserably in that regard, despite having the most prolific QB in school history.

 

[hoops156]

Look I’m not liking the direction of the program either but it isn’t from lack of trying from Mario in recruiting or making coaching changes. His problems are as gameday coach in which not fixing the defense nor providing systemic tweaks cost us two games. These problems stick out every year since Mario became HC in which once there is a loss more losses snowball due to teams exposing our flaws in which his teams fail to adjust.

you described Manny Diaz

 

[hoops156]

This is a shallow dive. We went 10-2 due to Lady Luck and Cam Ward. Thats it! It’s not a trajectory. It doesn’t mean we will now go 11-1 next year. It’s a false metric. Can we please stop pretending it’s because we built a strong foundation.

Ask yourself what our record would be without Cam and a few lucky bounces, 7-5?

if cam came back then I would say yes there is momentum. bc most of the talent that produced on offense is gone including the best player in the country, yeah no shot.

 

[hoops156]

How is it we still have this narrative of an easy schedule.

Clemson had a ******* easy schedule. Our conference opponents were 6 games above 500. Theirs was 14 below. If we all won out they would have been left out of the ACCCG.

GT "almost" beat UGA in their own building. Syracuse had the number 1 passing offense in the country. VT played Bama killer vandy to the brink on the road. Duke had an elite defense. Our schedule wasn't murderers row but it wasn't some g5 or second tier p2 schedule like Texas and Indiana played.

We were a flawed Team and we lost two tight ones on the road late in the season to some good football teams. The ACC isn't getting credit for being a good conference nationally for non football related reasons. Dont buy into the bull****.

Those ******* in the SEC and B1G aren't any different from the teams in the ACC this season. Even ******* Oregon can and will get got before it's all over.

it wasnt a good schedule lol. it was fairly easy and lacked a true threat in terms of talent. every team we played scored more than their averages in conference. we avoided SMU Pitt and Clemson in conference which were the 3 of the top 4 ACC teams this year heading towards the end.

 

[MiamiCanesFan77]

Arizona State and SMU are showing that coaches who excel at the strategic part of the game are key.