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I take South Florida ballers like Phillips every year at the bottom of my class. He's a lotto ticket, sure, but those are the types I take.
 
DMoney said:
Here's his tape. This is against Central, American Heritage, Northwestern, Columbus and other defenses littered with Power Five athletes.

[HUDL]athlete/2704665/highlights/308808385/[/HUDL]
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The tape is a bunch of qb runs, looks like tray one Grays tape without the KO returns
 
caneaddict said:
DMoney said:
Here's his tape. This is against Central, American Heritage, Northwestern, Columbus and other defenses littered with Power Five athletes.

[HUDL]athlete/2704665/highlights/308808385/[/HUDL]
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The tape is a bunch of qb runs, looks like tray one Grays tape without the KO returns
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If he's so good were are the other offers? It's not like he's some WR in an option offense hiding at some small school in the middle of nowhere.

WHERE ARE THE BIG OFFERS?
 
I'm a big fan of this kid. Sucks to lose him. Was really excited about what he could potentially do. I don't mind losing henderson, or hamilton cause i think they're borderline Miami talent. But this kid had stud athlete written all over him

I hope there's a chance he could come back by signing day
 
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iLoveTDs said:
WHERE ARE THE BIG OFFERS?
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Three of the Top 5 players in the entire world (Rodgers, Watt and Brown) didn't have any big offers. It happens all the time for a variety of reasons.

Phillips doesn't have big offers because (1) he didn't really explode until he was a senior; and (2) he didn't hit the camps. We offered him because we had better access and better information.

There are valid reasons not to like Phillips. You can question his experience at receiver, or prefer other receivers on the board. But let's get a little deeper with the analysis than "he doesn't have offers."
 
I forgot who was it in on gridiron, but they said he might start getting P5 looks and his decommitment was mutual.
 
Being concerned that a good athlete doesn't have "other offers" reeks of insecurity. That shouldn't be the question.

Is Desmond Phillips a good enough athlete to play at Miami?
 
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Don't really get why so many people bring up players that have been in the NFL for 5 years as their examples of how not having big offers or not being rated highly doesn't mean the players can't be good. Fact is recruiting rankings have changed a **** load since 2005 (10 Years ago) when Antonio Brown was a senior in high school. It is much harder for top players to slip through the cracks then ever before, and it just gets more and more unlikely that a top player will go unnoticed.

If you are a 2 star player or lower, it is increasingly more and more likely that they just aren't as good as 4 and 5 stars. Now I'm not saying because you're a 2 star you can't be better than a 3 star guy or anything. But it is extremely unlikely that they will be better than a 5 star guy.

And if you are a big time player in South Florida, and you are still ranked very low, or don't have many offers, I think that is pretty telling of a kids skills. If there is anywhere in the country you make sure you know every good athlete, it's in South Florida. So when a guy goes unnoticed here, barely recruited, or just lacks any top offers it usually just means he isn't all that great, or is very raw/a project player.

Now specifically about Desmond Phillips, he may be underrated. But I don't think he is the player you absolutely need to recruit heavily at this point. He's the kind of guy I would take at the end of the class, after I have a better sense of how everything is going to play out. If we get Richards, Bruce, Mullins, and another WR or 2, I don't think Phillips is a take at all at WR.
 
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calinative umstudent said:
Don't really get why so many people bring up players that have been in the NFL for 5 years as their examples of how not having big offers or not being rated highly doesn't mean the players can't be good. Fact is recruiting rankings have changed a **** load since 2005 (10 Years ago) when Antonio Brown was a senior in high school. It is much harder for top players to slip through the cracks then ever before, and it just gets more and more unlikely that a top player will go unnoticed.

If you are a 2 star player or lower, it is increasingly more and more likely that they just aren't as good as 4 and 5 stars. Now I'm not saying because you're a 2 star you can't be better than a 3 star guy or anything. But it is extremely unlikely that they will be better than a 5 star guy.

And if you are a big time player in South Florida, and you are still ranked very low, or don't have many offers, I think that is pretty telling of a kids skills. If there is anywhere in the country you make sure you know every good athlete, it's in South Florida. So when a guy goes unnoticed here, barely recruited, or just lacks any top offers it usually just means he isn't all that great, or is very raw/a project player.

Now specifically about Desmond Phillips, he may be underrated. But I don't think he is the player you absolutely need to recruit heavily at this point. He's the kind of guy I would take at the end of the class, after I have a better sense of how everything is going to play out. If we get Richards, Bruce, Mullins, and another WR or 2, I don't think Phillips is a take at all at WR.
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It's not about having big offers. It's about projecting out 4 or 5 seasons. Allen Hurns was a nobody when he was recruiting by us. Malcolm Lewis was a 4 star recruit.

It's very easy to project Sammy Watkins and Percy Harvin. It was impossible to project Justin Blackmon. George Farmer was considered a better receiver than Odell Beckman Jr. There are so many misses that we forget about them. Trent Richardson over Lamar Miller. Matthew Thomas over Jermaine Grace. We just don't know. I don't see how Phillips not having a big offer from a big school means anything. Wasn't Saban, Meyer, Mullen, Richt, Petrino, all coaches in the SEC when Khalil Mack was playing high school football in Florida?
 
demcanes26 said:
calinative umstudent said:
Don't really get why so many people bring up players that have been in the NFL for 5 years as their examples of how not having big offers or not being rated highly doesn't mean the players can't be good. Fact is recruiting rankings have changed a **** load since 2005 (10 Years ago) when Antonio Brown was a senior in high school. It is much harder for top players to slip through the cracks then ever before, and it just gets more and more unlikely that a top player will go unnoticed.

If you are a 2 star player or lower, it is increasingly more and more likely that they just aren't as good as 4 and 5 stars. Now I'm not saying because you're a 2 star you can't be better than a 3 star guy or anything. But it is extremely unlikely that they will be better than a 5 star guy.

And if you are a big time player in South Florida, and you are still ranked very low, or don't have many offers, I think that is pretty telling of a kids skills. If there is anywhere in the country you make sure you know every good athlete, it's in South Florida. So when a guy goes unnoticed here, barely recruited, or just lacks any top offers it usually just means he isn't all that great, or is very raw/a project player.

Now specifically about Desmond Phillips, he may be underrated. But I don't think he is the player you absolutely need to recruit heavily at this point. He's the kind of guy I would take at the end of the class, after I have a better sense of how everything is going to play out. If we get Richards, Bruce, Mullins, and another WR or 2, I don't think Phillips is a take at all at WR.
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It's not about having big offers. It's about projecting out 4 or 5 seasons. Allen Hurns was a nobody when he was recruiting by us. Malcolm Lewis was a 4 star recruit.

It's very easy to project Sammy Watkins and Percy Harvin. It was impossible to project Justin Blackmon. George Farmer was considered a better receiver than Odell Beckman Jr. There are so many misses that we forget about them. Trent Richardson over Lamar Miller. Matthew Thomas over Jermaine Grace. We just don't know. I don't see how Phillips not having a big offer from a big school means anything. Wasn't Saban, Meyer, Mullen, Richt, Petrino, all coaches in the SEC when Khalil Mack was playing high school football in Florida?
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Bingo I judge a talent by the finish product I forsee in the future. IF.. big IF coached up properly. At the same time the kid has to want it just as bad and put in the work in order to be successful too.
 
252cane said:
Phillips speed is overated. He has solid speed but he is not a blazer. He also is a project at wr. Why take a project wr when you can get more proven guys at that spot.
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Phillips is a legit track guy...so im guessing sub 4.5 electronic....

Wanna know who's speed is overrated.....Braxton Berrios. Our lsot guy who cant get nothing going. Guarantee Phillips has him in a foot race.
 
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db305 said:
legit question because i don't live in south fl anymore: is there something that you guys know about this kid that everyone else doesn't? the only other p5 teams recruiting him are oregon state, pitt, and syracuse. the only other florida schools are fiu and usf.
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He plays qb exclusively.

Same as T.Y. Hilton before and Antonio Brown. Kids like that have to "Project" to their position change in college...alot of the big dogs dont bite...espeecially if he didnt do the "camp circuit" as a wr. That's about it....He committed to Toledo early in the game...and camped at um and locally thats about it....
 
gogeta4 said:
252cane said:
Phillips speed is overated. He has solid speed but he is not a blazer. He also is a project at wr. Why take a project wr when you can get more proven guys at that spot.
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Phillips is a legit track guy...so im guessing sub 4.5 electronic....

Wanna know who's speed is overrated.....Braxton Berrios. Our lsot guy who cant get nothing going. Guarantee Phillips has him in a foot race.
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There is no way phillips runs a 4.4. Sam bruce runs a 4.52 and phillips doesn't look faster than him. He actually looks more like a 4.56 type guy. As for berrios i never thought he was fast or that good coming out. I felt they should have offered mckenzie instead.

Mckenzie has now become the best **** return man in college football while berrios has yet to do ****. And talking about speed at reciever it's been reported that richt has reached out to tre nixon who he recruited at uga and uga was one of his top schools. Nixon is a burner a good deep threat reciever.
 
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As long as he doesn't go to FSU, UF, or anybody else we play annually; I'm okay with it. Wish he was a cane though...
 
Don't know if he's a real legit track guy - kid is right around the 11/22 s mark for 100m/200m. Good times but I wouldn't consider that blazing times.
 
TC7D said:
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nycane said:
i love how richt just started and everyone is already criticizing him.
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This is Miami, remember. Honeymoon lasted a couple weeks, what did you expect. Couple that with how bad Al burned us and we are like long tail cats in room full of rocking chairs. He had a real good weekend, but it is Wednesday there is a hot chick working out in the yard next door and what have you done for me lately. Welcome to THE U again, Mark.
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Wake me up when we actually lose someone that matters to this class. Richt has landed 2 huge recruits and is getting rid of 3 suspect offers. This guy is legit. Just wait til after the dead period. I'm stoked
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I'm happy with Mark so far. Just making the point that complaints come quickly here and Mark will be no different.
 
I know a lot of guys go under the radar every year, but we can't afford to take risks like Toledo can. If he goes there and balls out, good for him, but with FSU OSU and BAMA winning 5 out of the last 6 championships it tells me that stars do matter. I consistently see FSU OSU and Bama having top 5 classes, and if we want to win championships we need the studs not projects like Phillips.
 
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