Defensive adjustments

To his point, they weren't playing against the type of talent we will face. When they faced superior talent, they mostly failed. The biggest question right now is what we will do, consistently, when we face teams with equal or superior talent?

It's a fair question.


But. we won't have that type of talent, so it's a pretty terrible question. Our talent will be relative to that of our competition, as it was for them at temple. Al was recruiting some of the better classes in the MAC, as we're doing here with regards to the ACC. Reasonable heads may use that knowledge, and history, in order to extrapolate. Which is both valid and reasonable.

That's what scares me. There isn't [currently] a lot of evidence that Coach Golden and crew will beat teams with comparable or superior talent, as we'll presumably face in Championship-type games.

UF was as talented a team that we will face. So there is some evidence of Golden and crew doing it.

UF that went 4-8 and lost to Georgia Southern??? When you using that as the example for he can win. You know its weak.

Plus UF outgained us 2 to 1 in that game

Can't take you seriously if you think the Gator team we beat on Sept 7 was the same one that lost to Ga. Southern. That team was a shell of its former self.
 
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But. we won't have that type of talent, so it's a pretty terrible question. Our talent will be relative to that of our competition, as it was for them at temple. Al was recruiting some of the better classes in the MAC, as we're doing here with regards to the ACC. Reasonable heads may use that knowledge, and history, in order to extrapolate. Which is both valid and reasonable.

That's what scares me. There isn't [currently] a lot of evidence that Coach Golden and crew will beat teams with comparable or superior talent, as we'll presumably face in Championship-type games.

UF was as talented a team that we will face. So there is some evidence of Golden and crew doing it.

UF that went 4-8 and lost to Georgia Southern??? When you using that as the example for he can win. You know its weak.

Plus UF outgained us 2 to 1 in that game

Can't take you seriously if you think the Gator team we beat on Sept 7 was the same one that lost to Ga. Southern. That team was a shell of its former self.

No but it was the same Gator team that struggled badly with Toledo the week before we played them.
 
Sorry brother...but this is easily one of the worst posts in the relative short history of this board.

Examples are plenty? All the examples you just gave are at schools THAT AREN'T UPPER ECHELON FOOTBALL PROGRAMS. It's a **** of a lot easier taking a horrible team and making them average, or above average...than it is to do well at a BIG TIME PROGRAM while playing against BIG TIME COMPETITION. The fact Golden is 1-11 against the only 12 quality teams he's played in his 3 years here is pretty much the end of any argument.

Spare us with the Golden at Temple crap while you're at it....that mythical "9 win" season is the definition of a FRAUD. The majority of those 9 wins came against horrible competition. That's not even mentioning the fact that Golden never won that ****ty *** conference. You want to give Golden some credit for that "9 win" season...well congrats, he's the recipient of the "prettiest fat girl" trophy for beating up on ****ty *** teams.

You want examples to the contrary? Saban turned Bama into a powerhouse and returned them to glory almost overnight.MIKE SHULA won 10 games with bama 2 seasons before saban arrived What about Malzahn taking an Auburn team WHICH WAS FRESH OFF A 3-9 SEASON Auburn won a national title how long ago? to the big show? Miami is the definition of a sleeping giant and even at the worst of worst times...should never lose to the Duke and Virginia's of the world.

Get the **** out of here with this loser mentality that the Don Bailey jr crowd on these boards clings to....coaching at the University of Miami is NOTHING like any of the jobs you referenced above. You're comparing apples and synthetic ****ing oranges.

the point is... neither of those teams were in the larry coker randy shannon spiral of poor recruiting and terrible coaching for 7+ years before the "saviors" came in to have success.. being that we haven't been good in forever, I don't see why anyone would think we can fix it that quickly.

Trolling at it's finest. Can't even take you seriously.
that's what i'd say too if I had no reasonable retort. you can't compare the amount of futility we've had here to programs who within the last 2-3 years of their coach arriving, have had success.. it's not the same.

No...that's just what I say when I realize it's not worth feeding a troll. Going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not THAT unintelligent. Miami was in no way in bad enough shape where losing to Duke by double digits, losing to V Tech at home by double digits, and almost losing to Wake is/was acceptable.

If you REALLY think Duke had better talent then it's not even worth arguing any further....that simply makes you a blind cheerleader who ignores the facts.

1-11 against the only 12 team he's faced with a pulse. Take that stat and print it out, grab a couple of magnets....and stick it on your fridge at home. Once it sinks it...come back.

duke was pretty good this year, can we stop pretending we lost to a 3 win duke team?... VT was an inexcusable loss, but that was mainly due to Special teams turnovers.. 1-11 doesn't really bother me that much, al golden took over a program that was down, that hasn't been good for an eternity.. I'd be really concerned if we were had a good squad and he was 1-11 against good teams.. but the fact of the matter is, we haven't been good..we haven't had the talent to be chalking up automatic W's like we used to back in the Day.. teams with mediocre talent are just that, the fact that lost to a pretty good duke team, who's coach has been building them up for 6 - 7 years, doesn't change the fact that we just aren't where we need to be talent wise
 
As a former d coordinator Al has got to be ****ed that his defense can't stop a soul on 3rd downs. We were right there last year and this year I believe we will be there defensively

3RD downs ? He cant stop a sould on any down
 
The point is IT TAKES TIME to know if the DC SUCKS or If eventually HE'll prove to be a good.
You guys are already sold that D'onforio sucks just like you probably would have been sold that with Narduzzi that best Michigan State defenses would be would be average at best.
Next season and after will tell us.. That's why these posts about changing schemes and firing D'onofrio are pointless now.

Calm down. Do you need more time with Nix? Does he need 4 years at Miami to fully judge? IM. O, if Coach D wa7 the "guy" then we would see something better than we have in year 3. It is tough to defend him when we had everything to play for and we let up 90 points combined to VT and Duke.

3 years is time. He has had a ton of time.

As for Narduzzi (assuming he started off bad), so what. One guy, one time. The reason that most coaches don't get that many years to show something is because people believe they have seen enough and have higher expectations after analyzing the data. 3 years is a lot, 3 years is at least 36 games. That is a tremendous data sample to judge. After 3 years if there is ONLY minimal improvement (minimal improvement from crap), that doesn't mean a 4th year is the answer. It usually means a 4th year is a waste and throwing good money at a bad investment (i.e. wasting time).

It isn't pointless to fire him because the data at Miami shows little evidence that he can coach a quality defense. People who believe this would rather implement the new defense NOW rather than wait a year to see _________ at the end of 2014. At the end of the year, we will either see: (a) further evidence of the last 3 years i.e. poor defense, or (b) minimal improvement but still not enough to have the defense we need to win, or (c) a dramatic improvement demonstrating he should be our DC.

It isn't pointless to fire him because of Trend Analysis. It isn't pointless to fire him if he can't coach a defense. There is no reason to wait another full year to see (a) or (b). In addition, AT MIAMI there is no proof that Coach D can make a dramatic improvement.

If your telling me that on March 18, 2014 that it is pointless to fire him now because we're in the middle of spring football and a transition NOW may be pointless and hurt the season, that is one thing.

But we saw UL, we saw Duke and we saw VT. Perhaps after the bowl game it wasn't pointless...this is what people are saying. People are also saying your Narduzzi example (if true) is just an exception and not the rule.

Not really the exception to the rule.
D'onofrio at Temple is another example.
Golden at UVA another
Took Cutcliffe 7 years to have a breakout year at Duke.
Examples are plenty

Sorry brother...but this is easily one of the worst posts in the relative short history of this board.

Examples are plenty? All the examples you just gave are at schools THAT AREN'T UPPER ECHELON FOOTBALL PROGRAMS. It's a **** of a lot easier taking a horrible team and making them average, or above average...than it is to do well at a BIG TIME PROGRAM while playing against BIG TIME COMPETITION. The fact Golden is 1-11 against the only 12 quality teams he's played in his 3 years here is pretty much the end of any argument.

Spare us with the Golden at Temple crap while you're at it....that mythical "9 win" season is the definition of a FRAUD. The majority of those 9 wins came against horrible competition. That's not even mentioning the fact that Golden never won that ****ty *** conference. You want to give Golden some credit for that "9 win" season...well congrats, he's the recipient of the "prettiest fat girl" trophy for beating up on ****ty *** teams.

You want examples to the contrary? Saban turned Bama into a powerhouse and returned them to glory almost overnight.MIKE SHULA won 10 games with bama 2 seasons before saban arrived What about Malzahn taking an Auburn team WHICH WAS FRESH OFF A 3-9 SEASON Auburn won a national title how long ago? to the big show? Miami is the definition of a sleeping giant and even at the worst of worst times...should never lose to the Duke and Virginia's of the world.

Get the **** out of here with this loser mentality that the Don Bailey jr crowd on these boards clings to....coaching at the University of Miami is NOTHING like any of the jobs you referenced above. You're comparing apples and synthetic ****ing oranges.

the point is... neither of those teams were in the larry coker randy shannon spiral of poor recruiting and terrible coaching for 7+ years before the "saviors" came in to have success.. being that we haven't been good in forever, I don't see why anyone would think we can fix it that quickly.

Miami fans are ******* retards. This is the same bunch who ran Butch out of town prematurely. They don't like Golden or his staff so they refuse to admit just how far this once mighty program had fallen.

Bunch of ******* mopes...
 
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Calm down. Do you need more time with Nix? Does he need 4 years at Miami to fully judge? IM. O, if Coach D wa7 the "guy" then we would see something better than we have in year 3. It is tough to defend him when we had everything to play for and we let up 90 points combined to VT and Duke.

3 years is time. He has had a ton of time.

As for Narduzzi (assuming he started off bad), so what. One guy, one time. The reason that most coaches don't get that many years to show something is because people believe they have seen enough and have higher expectations after analyzing the data. 3 years is a lot, 3 years is at least 36 games. That is a tremendous data sample to judge. After 3 years if there is ONLY minimal improvement (minimal improvement from crap), that doesn't mean a 4th year is the answer. It usually means a 4th year is a waste and throwing good money at a bad investment (i.e. wasting time).

It isn't pointless to fire him because the data at Miami shows little evidence that he can coach a quality defense. People who believe this would rather implement the new defense NOW rather than wait a year to see _________ at the end of 2014. At the end of the year, we will either see: (a) further evidence of the last 3 years i.e. poor defense, or (b) minimal improvement but still not enough to have the defense we need to win, or (c) a dramatic improvement demonstrating he should be our DC.

It isn't pointless to fire him because of Trend Analysis. It isn't pointless to fire him if he can't coach a defense. There is no reason to wait another full year to see (a) or (b). In addition, AT MIAMI there is no proof that Coach D can make a dramatic improvement.

If your telling me that on March 18, 2014 that it is pointless to fire him now because we're in the middle of spring football and a transition NOW may be pointless and hurt the season, that is one thing.

But we saw UL, we saw Duke and we saw VT. Perhaps after the bowl game it wasn't pointless...this is what people are saying. People are also saying your Narduzzi example (if true) is just an exception and not the rule.

Not really the exception to the rule.
D'onofrio at Temple is another example.
Golden at UVA another
Took Cutcliffe 7 years to have a breakout year at Duke.
Examples are plenty

Sorry brother...but this is easily one of the worst posts in the relative short history of this board.

Examples are plenty? All the examples you just gave are at schools THAT AREN'T UPPER ECHELON FOOTBALL PROGRAMS. It's a **** of a lot easier taking a horrible team and making them average, or above average...than it is to do well at a BIG TIME PROGRAM while playing against BIG TIME COMPETITION. The fact Golden is 1-11 against the only 12 quality teams he's played in his 3 years here is pretty much the end of any argument.

Spare us with the Golden at Temple crap while you're at it....that mythical "9 win" season is the definition of a FRAUD. The majority of those 9 wins came against horrible competition. That's not even mentioning the fact that Golden never won that ****ty *** conference. You want to give Golden some credit for that "9 win" season...well congrats, he's the recipient of the "prettiest fat girl" trophy for beating up on ****ty *** teams.

You want examples to the contrary? Saban turned Bama into a powerhouse and returned them to glory almost overnight.MIKE SHULA won 10 games with bama 2 seasons before saban arrived What about Malzahn taking an Auburn team WHICH WAS FRESH OFF A 3-9 SEASON Auburn won a national title how long ago? to the big show? Miami is the definition of a sleeping giant and even at the worst of worst times...should never lose to the Duke and Virginia's of the world.

Get the **** out of here with this loser mentality that the Don Bailey jr crowd on these boards clings to....coaching at the University of Miami is NOTHING like any of the jobs you referenced above. You're comparing apples and synthetic ****ing oranges.

the point is... neither of those teams were in the larry coker randy shannon spiral of poor recruiting and terrible coaching for 7+ years before the "saviors" came in to have success.. being that we haven't been good in forever, I don't see why anyone would think we can fix it that quickly.

Miami fans are ******* retards. This is the same bunch who ran Butch out of town prematurely. They don't like Golden or his staff so they refuse to admit just how far this once mighty program had fallen.

Bunch of ******* mopes...

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Not really the exception to the rule.
D'onofrio at Temple is another example.
Golden at UVA another
Took Cutcliffe 7 years to have a breakout year at Duke.
Examples are plenty

Sorry brother...but this is easily one of the worst posts in the relative short history of this board.

Examples are plenty? All the examples you just gave are at schools THAT AREN'T UPPER ECHELON FOOTBALL PROGRAMS. It's a **** of a lot easier taking a horrible team and making them average, or above average...than it is to do well at a BIG TIME PROGRAM while playing against BIG TIME COMPETITION. The fact Golden is 1-11 against the only 12 quality teams he's played in his 3 years here is pretty much the end of any argument.

Spare us with the Golden at Temple crap while you're at it....that mythical "9 win" season is the definition of a FRAUD. The majority of those 9 wins came against horrible competition. That's not even mentioning the fact that Golden never won that ****ty *** conference. You want to give Golden some credit for that "9 win" season...well congrats, he's the recipient of the "prettiest fat girl" trophy for beating up on ****ty *** teams.

You want examples to the contrary? Saban turned Bama into a powerhouse and returned them to glory almost overnight.MIKE SHULA won 10 games with bama 2 seasons before saban arrived What about Malzahn taking an Auburn team WHICH WAS FRESH OFF A 3-9 SEASON Auburn won a national title how long ago? to the big show? Miami is the definition of a sleeping giant and even at the worst of worst times...should never lose to the Duke and Virginia's of the world.

Get the **** out of here with this loser mentality that the Don Bailey jr crowd on these boards clings to....coaching at the University of Miami is NOTHING like any of the jobs you referenced above. You're comparing apples and synthetic ****ing oranges.

the point is... neither of those teams were in the larry coker randy shannon spiral of poor recruiting and terrible coaching for 7+ years before the "saviors" came in to have success.. being that we haven't been good in forever, I don't see why anyone would think we can fix it that quickly.

Miami fans are ****ing retards. This is the same bunch who ran Butch out of town prematurely. They don't like Golden or his staff so they refuse to admit just how far this once mighty program had fallen.

Bunch of ****ing mopes...

136.gif

Latte sippin pinky finger out female mope...
 
Sorry brother...but this is easily one of the worst posts in the relative short history of this board.

Examples are plenty? All the examples you just gave are at schools THAT AREN'T UPPER ECHELON FOOTBALL PROGRAMS. It's a **** of a lot easier taking a horrible team and making them average, or above average...than it is to do well at a BIG TIME PROGRAM while playing against BIG TIME COMPETITION. The fact Golden is 1-11 against the only 12 quality teams he's played in his 3 years here is pretty much the end of any argument.

Spare us with the Golden at Temple crap while you're at it....that mythical "9 win" season is the definition of a FRAUD. The majority of those 9 wins came against horrible competition. That's not even mentioning the fact that Golden never won that ****ty *** conference. You want to give Golden some credit for that "9 win" season...well congrats, he's the recipient of the "prettiest fat girl" trophy for beating up on ****ty *** teams.

You want examples to the contrary? Saban turned Bama into a powerhouse and returned them to glory almost overnight.MIKE SHULA won 10 games with bama 2 seasons before saban arrived What about Malzahn taking an Auburn team WHICH WAS FRESH OFF A 3-9 SEASON Auburn won a national title how long ago? to the big show? Miami is the definition of a sleeping giant and even at the worst of worst times...should never lose to the Duke and Virginia's of the world.

Get the **** out of here with this loser mentality that the Don Bailey jr crowd on these boards clings to....coaching at the University of Miami is NOTHING like any of the jobs you referenced above. You're comparing apples and synthetic ****ing oranges.

the point is... neither of those teams were in the larry coker randy shannon spiral of poor recruiting and terrible coaching for 7+ years before the "saviors" came in to have success.. being that we haven't been good in forever, I don't see why anyone would think we can fix it that quickly.

Miami fans are ****ing retards. This is the same bunch who ran Butch out of town prematurely. They don't like Golden or his staff so they refuse to admit just how far this once mighty program had fallen.

Bunch of ****ing mopes...

136.gif

Latte sippin pinky finger out female mope...

Tell him exactly why he's a mope instead of just the consistent name-calling. Thanks.
 
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But. we won't have that type of talent, so it's a pretty terrible question. Our talent will be relative to that of our competition, as it was for them at temple. Al was recruiting some of the better classes in the MAC, as we're doing here with regards to the ACC. Reasonable heads may use that knowledge, and history, in order to extrapolate. Which is both valid and reasonable.

That's what scares me. There isn't [currently] a lot of evidence that Coach Golden and crew will beat teams with comparable or superior talent, as we'll presumably face in Championship-type games.

UF was as talented a team that we will face. So there is some evidence of Golden and crew doing it.

UF that went 4-8 and lost to Georgia Southern??? When you using that as the example for he can win. You know its weak.

Plus UF outgained us 2 to 1 in that game

Can't take you seriously if you think the Gator team we beat on Sept 7 was the same one that lost to Ga. Southern. That team was a shell of its former self.

No it wasnt but they still went 4-8 and lost to them and thats your example that Al Golden can beat good teams
 
That's what scares me. There isn't [currently] a lot of evidence that Coach Golden and crew will beat teams with comparable or superior talent, as we'll presumably face in Championship-type games.

UF was as talented a team that we will face. So there is some evidence of Golden and crew doing it.

UF that went 4-8 and lost to Georgia Southern??? When you using that as the example for he can win. You know its weak.

Plus UF outgained us 2 to 1 in that game

Can't take you seriously if you think the Gator team we beat on Sept 7 was the same one that lost to Ga. Southern. That team was a shell of its former self.

No it wasnt but they still went 4-8 and lost to them and thats your example that Al Golden can beat good teams

Sounds like you got the excuse machine running on full tilt. if you have any sense, you know **** well the team we played in week 2 was not the same team they finished with. If you dont, thats cool, keep with the excuses.
 
UF was as talented a team that we will face. So there is some evidence of Golden and crew doing it.

UF that went 4-8 and lost to Georgia Southern??? When you using that as the example for he can win. You know its weak.

Plus UF outgained us 2 to 1 in that game

Can't take you seriously if you think the Gator team we beat on Sept 7 was the same one that lost to Ga. Southern. That team was a shell of its former self.

No it wasnt but they still went 4-8 and lost to them and thats your example that Al Golden can beat good teams

Sounds like you got the excuse machine running on full tilt. if you have any sense, you know **** well the team we played in week 2 was not the same team they finished with. If you dont, thats cool, keep with the excuses.

It may not have been the same disastrous team it was at the end of the season, but that was not "as talented as a team as we will face." Their offense was virtually garbage. Their QB had a 43 rating for that game. I suppose you can give the defense credit for that, but I watched the game. His consistent inaccuracy, even when he had time, was shocking. That was a very talented defensive team, though. I'll agree it's "some" evidence and I was excited when it happened, but evidence to the contrary right now overwhelms that occurrence, I think.
 
UF that went 4-8 and lost to Georgia Southern??? When you using that as the example for he can win. You know its weak.

Plus UF outgained us 2 to 1 in that game

Can't take you seriously if you think the Gator team we beat on Sept 7 was the same one that lost to Ga. Southern. That team was a shell of its former self.

No it wasnt but they still went 4-8 and lost to them and thats your example that Al Golden can beat good teams

Sounds like you got the excuse machine running on full tilt. if you have any sense, you know **** well the team we played in week 2 was not the same team they finished with. If you dont, thats cool, keep with the excuses.

It may not have been the same disastrous team it was at the end of the season, but that was not "as talented as a team as we will face." Their offense was virtually garbage. Their QB had a 43 rating for that game. I suppose you can give the defense credit for that, but I watched the game. His consistent inaccuracy, even when he had time, was shocking. That was a very talented defensive team, though. I'll agree it's "some" evidence and I was excited when it happened, but evidence to the contrary right now overwhelms that occurrence, I think.

Depending on how you or anyone judges "talent", I would say they were up there. I dont have the numbers in front of me but I would bet that they had more 4 and 5 star players on their team than we did. Not saying that is all that matters, its obviously subjective to a certain extent. But to say the win doesnt prove anything because they lost AFTER, is pretty dumb from those who suggest that.

North Carolina is another team that had pretty similar "talent" as we did and we still won.

We agree, we have not had enough, we need more wins against the best.
 
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Florida fell apart after our game through injuries - a lot of injuries. They clearly regressed through the season.

UNC went 6-1 after playing us. They clearly improved through the season.

We clearly regressed through the season. There was not reason that I could see other than we played better competition later in the year - much better.

Teams improve, or regress, or stay the same through the season. People want to paint this thing black or white. It isn't. We are trying to make a determination of the quality of any one opponent based on a moving target. I don't think that works for teams that change significantly through the season.
 
Can't take you seriously if you think the Gator team we beat on Sept 7 was the same one that lost to Ga. Southern. That team was a shell of its former self.

No it wasnt but they still went 4-8 and lost to them and thats your example that Al Golden can beat good teams

Sounds like you got the excuse machine running on full tilt. if you have any sense, you know **** well the team we played in week 2 was not the same team they finished with. If you dont, thats cool, keep with the excuses.

It may not have been the same disastrous team it was at the end of the season, but that was not "as talented as a team as we will face." Their offense was virtually garbage. Their QB had a 43 rating for that game. I suppose you can give the defense credit for that, but I watched the game. His consistent inaccuracy, even when he had time, was shocking. That was a very talented defensive team, though. I'll agree it's "some" evidence and I was excited when it happened, but evidence to the contrary right now overwhelms that occurrence, I think.

Depending on how you or anyone judges "talent", I would say they were up there. I dont have the numbers in front of me but I would bet that they had more 4 and 5 star players on their team than we did. Not saying that is all that matters, its obviously subjective to a certain extent. But to say the win doesnt prove anything because they lost AFTER, is pretty dumb from those who suggest that.

North Carolina is another team that had pretty similar "talent" as we did and we still won.

We agree, we have not had enough, we need more wins against the best.

I concede UF's talent because that defense (especially) was monstrous and their OL has some players, but I'm not accepting UNC. That was a team a Miami team should beat 8 out of 10 times.

The biggest thing for me was the Louisville Bowl game. That was truly rough to watch. We looked unprepared and unwilling to counter. I was already concerned, but that made me openly worried about what's to come. We should not have looked like an unprepared team playing uphill.
 
UNC had more top shelf talent which will be reflected in the upcoming draft.
We also lost Duke Jonhnson, Dorsett early in that game.
 
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No it wasnt but they still went 4-8 and lost to them and thats your example that Al Golden can beat good teams

Sounds like you got the excuse machine running on full tilt. if you have any sense, you know **** well the team we played in week 2 was not the same team they finished with. If you dont, thats cool, keep with the excuses.

It may not have been the same disastrous team it was at the end of the season, but that was not "as talented as a team as we will face." Their offense was virtually garbage. Their QB had a 43 rating for that game. I suppose you can give the defense credit for that, but I watched the game. His consistent inaccuracy, even when he had time, was shocking. That was a very talented defensive team, though. I'll agree it's "some" evidence and I was excited when it happened, but evidence to the contrary right now overwhelms that occurrence, I think.

Depending on how you or anyone judges "talent", I would say they were up there. I dont have the numbers in front of me but I would bet that they had more 4 and 5 star players on their team than we did. Not saying that is all that matters, its obviously subjective to a certain extent. But to say the win doesnt prove anything because they lost AFTER, is pretty dumb from those who suggest that.

North Carolina is another team that had pretty similar "talent" as we did and we still won.

We agree, we have not had enough, we need more wins against the best.

I concede UF's talent because that defense (especially) was monstrous and their OL has some players, but I'm not accepting UNC. That was a team a Miami team should beat 8 out of 10 times.

The biggest thing for me was the Louisville Bowl game. That was truly rough to watch. We looked unprepared and unwilling to counter. I was already concerned, but that made me openly worried about what's to come. We should not have looked like an unprepared team playing uphill.

UNC, according to the below has been on the same 4 star recruiting tier as we were in. That we have beat, doesn't change that.

http://www.footballstudyhall.com/20...-matters-why-the-sites-get-the-rankings-right

Louisville loss was terrible
 
No it wasnt but they still went 4-8 and lost to them and thats your example that Al Golden can beat good teams

Sounds like you got the excuse machine running on full tilt. if you have any sense, you know **** well the team we played in week 2 was not the same team they finished with. If you dont, thats cool, keep with the excuses.

It may not have been the same disastrous team it was at the end of the season, but that was not "as talented as a team as we will face." Their offense was virtually garbage. Their QB had a 43 rating for that game. I suppose you can give the defense credit for that, but I watched the game. His consistent inaccuracy, even when he had time, was shocking. That was a very talented defensive team, though. I'll agree it's "some" evidence and I was excited when it happened, but evidence to the contrary right now overwhelms that occurrence, I think.

Depending on how you or anyone judges "talent", I would say they were up there. I dont have the numbers in front of me but I would bet that they had more 4 and 5 star players on their team than we did. Not saying that is all that matters, its obviously subjective to a certain extent. But to say the win doesnt prove anything because they lost AFTER, is pretty dumb from those who suggest that.

North Carolina is another team that had pretty similar "talent" as we did and we still won.

We agree, we have not had enough, we need more wins against the best.

I concede UF's talent because that defense (especially) was monstrous and their OL has some players, but I'm not accepting UNC. That was a team a Miami team should beat 8 out of 10 times.

The biggest thing for me was the Louisville Bowl game. That was truly rough to watch. We looked unprepared and unwilling to counter. I was already concerned, but that made me openly worried about what's to come. We should not have looked like an unprepared team playing uphill.
I feel like defensively, we looked very prepared early... we couldn't hold up when the offense did nothing and it turned into a crap show, but i thought the defense showed some promise.
 
UNC had more top shelf talent which will be reflected in the upcoming draft.
We also lost Duke Jonhnson, Dorsett early in that game.

A top rated TE (who played like it), a decently-rated DE, an Offensive Guard (late round projection), one Corner (who's rated as a late, late pick, if not undrafted), a likely undrafted QB and a DT (rated not far from AJ Highsmith, so…). Who am I missing?
 
Sounds like you got the excuse machine running on full tilt. if you have any sense, you know **** well the team we played in week 2 was not the same team they finished with. If you dont, thats cool, keep with the excuses.

It may not have been the same disastrous team it was at the end of the season, but that was not "as talented as a team as we will face." Their offense was virtually garbage. Their QB had a 43 rating for that game. I suppose you can give the defense credit for that, but I watched the game. His consistent inaccuracy, even when he had time, was shocking. That was a very talented defensive team, though. I'll agree it's "some" evidence and I was excited when it happened, but evidence to the contrary right now overwhelms that occurrence, I think.

Depending on how you or anyone judges "talent", I would say they were up there. I dont have the numbers in front of me but I would bet that they had more 4 and 5 star players on their team than we did. Not saying that is all that matters, its obviously subjective to a certain extent. But to say the win doesnt prove anything because they lost AFTER, is pretty dumb from those who suggest that.

North Carolina is another team that had pretty similar "talent" as we did and we still won.

We agree, we have not had enough, we need more wins against the best.

I concede UF's talent because that defense (especially) was monstrous and their OL has some players, but I'm not accepting UNC. That was a team a Miami team should beat 8 out of 10 times.

The biggest thing for me was the Louisville Bowl game. That was truly rough to watch. We looked unprepared and unwilling to counter. I was already concerned, but that made me openly worried about what's to come. We should not have looked like an unprepared team playing uphill.
I feel like defensively, we looked very prepared early... we couldn't hold up when the offense did nothing and it turned into a crap show, but i thought the defense showed some promise.

We had one good play in the first series. Here are Louisville's subsequent drives:

- Moved the ball inside the redzone and were unable to convert a 3rd and 3. Converted FG.
- Moved the ball to our 26. Got a penalty. We stopped them on 3rd and 15. Converted FG.
- Moved the ball to our 21. Unable to convert a 3rd and 3. Got a penalty on 4th and 1. Converted FG.
- TD
- 3 and out. Punt.
- TD

That was the first half.
 
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