DAY 3 PRACTICE THREAD

[RattlerCane]

The other thing I'm scared about if Kaaya wins it, is that they'll put the leash on him and water down the offense.

And/or he'll get eaten alive by opposing defenses and traumatized to the level of KW (not comparing his abilities to that of KW)

I'm not scared of that. That has more to do with Kaaya than it does the circumstances that will surround him and judging from what I've seen of him from his recruitment to his time in Coral Gables, he seems to have a certain level of fortitude.

In short...he don't look like he scared

I agree...saying a QB gets traumatized is a hindsight thing...it's only brought up in regards to the ones that go on to fail.

Meanwhile...it's not like Johnny Manziel is the first human being to start and have success as a freshman and then go on to have a good career. The fact of the matter is you either have it or you don't....or you figure it out later. I don't buy the "so and so was ruined by early failure". He was ruined because he was simply never destined to be a good player.

The more I see of the kid the more I think he should start out of the gate. He stands tall in the pocket and actually looks off the guy he intends to throw to. That right there is already light years away from what we had in our last 3-4 quarterbacks.

I just think the staff needs to protect Kaaya as much as possible because he is going to be very very special.

Give him a year to master the playbook, mature physically, and work on his mechanics.

In the end, I truly believe it'll be worth holding off one year.

(Both Manziel and Jaimes were RS Freshmen)

I don't really recall any True Freshmen QBs starting and tearing it up.

He did come in later than the staff wanted him to but when you look at those names you mentioned above do you not really think that they could have played their freshman year. They both won player of the year the following year, that's a mighty big jump. I would take our chances with him if he's the better guy. The offense is pretty much set, its sort of like insert whomever at QB and go. In our case we should go with whom ever is performing better and if its a true freshman so be it. True freshmen aren't what they were years ago, this is a new era where these kids have professional trainers in high school and sometime younger. They also go at it year round unlike in the past so that puts them in advantage of your past typical true freshman.

 

[Gamineal]

I look at this way....

we have to plan on running the ball ( reading the D ) to see where and when we need to run, call a pass etc..

..how many times last year did you see Stephen check down or change a play when we were facing a 3 and 4 and coley had a running play the D loaded the box and we ran right into 9 guys...( see our 3rd down % and TOP) last in the ACC

I am VERY impressed with Kaaya but he is not 50% or even 30% better than Williams or Heaps..( yet )

Heaps is 23....not just turning 18...

So I like heaps to start, play it cool and mature make great decisions use his weapons and not his arm so much...
get us some wins and confidence..if we can go on the road beat U of L and NEB...leave Jake at the helm use olsen as the mop up, or williams when he is ready
Keep Kaaya as a special 4 yr guy for next year going into camp

Now if we **** the bed and the D is same oh same oh...***** Williams and heap..play Kaaya and Olsen get em ready for 2015...

 

[mlw352]

Bro None of these kids have done **** you praise the ones who you no less about and try to crucify this kid for smoking weed gtfoh hes a college kid yea its illegal in Florida but hes not the only one who does it he just got caught allegedly so far and nothing came of the wreck so what else your saying tje spring game **** anyone think that coley dumbed down the routes on a short feild less high percentage throws more simple routes to put on a basic show

 

[bobbydigius]

[Camera pans to Kaya with headset]

Musberger:

"Folks, remember that name. Braaad Kaaya. He's gotta whole lotta folks in Coral Gables excited. They think he's gotta chance to reeeeal special."

Herbstreit:

"You're right Brent, I talked to Coach Coley this week and they're enamored with his maturity and his ability to process the game at this stage. Now they're not gonna hand him anything next year when Jake Heaps and Ryan Williams move on, but all signs point to Kaaya being the man for the job."

(canesinsight thread about 2015 Heisman frontrunners shortly follows)

Both these posts need to be saved, because that actually maybe what they say word for word...

 

[motorcitycane]

Olsen has not played a real live football game since his junior year of hs. Yall tough on the boy. He really could have benefited from playing his senior season.

 

[jwayne]

I read a study somewhere on a college QB's progression (I'll have to find it again) from a true freshman to sophomore and on. In most cases, there is no improvement from the frosh to soph years and even regression is likely for those that have early success.
There's a reason why true freshmen don't normally start right away.
Of course there are exceptions. If you're going to be special, you're going to be special and progress.

 

[RattlerCane]

I read a study somewhere on a college QB's progression (I'll have to find it again) from a true freshman to sophomore and on. In most cases, there is no improvement from the frosh to soph years and even regression is likely for those that have early success.
There's a reason why true freshmen don't normally start right away.
Of course there are exceptions. If you're going to be special, you're going to be special and progress.

Sounds about right to me

 

[Cribby]

If Kevin Olsen's name was Kevin Smith he would've been a 3 star recruit who signed with a mid major.

He's never really shown anything above average talent.

If his name was Kevin smith he'd be more than a weed head, he'd be a weed head that makes awful movies.

 

[weownfsu]

I look at this way....

we have to plan on running the ball ( reading the D ) to see where and when we need to run, call a pass etc..

..how many times last year did you see Stephen check down or change a play when we were facing a 3 and 4 and coley had a running play the D loaded the box and we ran right into 9 guys...( see our 3rd down % and TOP) last in the ACC

I am VERY impressed with Kaaya but he is not 50% or even 30% better than Williams or Heaps..( yet )

Heaps is 23....not just turning 18...

So I like heaps to start, play it cool and mature make great decisions use his weapons and not his arm so much...
get us some wins and confidence..if we can go on the road beat U of L and NEB...leave Jake at the helm use olsen as the mop up, or williams when he is ready
Keep Kaaya as a special 4 yr guy for next year going into camp

Now if we **** the bed and the D is same oh same oh...***** Williams and heap..play Kaaya and Olsen get em ready for 2015...

You have no clue if Heaps is better than Kaaya or not.