Cyrus Moss in the portal

Jp15 is completely different
He was big then shrunk bc of injuries
Dude was a freak out of hs
So you think your nutrition program is lacking? Lol

I can’t think of any player who hasn’t gained or lost to “look” like a D1 P5 player
 
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Very… I remember JP15 coming here and looking like moss railing.. I remember a pic of him walking back to his room and thinking that kid will be a few years stash… to my surprise that next season he was rocked up and looked to have gained 30-40 pounds.

Zion is another who came in way undersized and quickly gained…
and then ****ed up his knees
 
The ‘22 class was a flat out disaster, both portal and HS. Although Mario didn’t have much time to do anything regarding the HS kids.

Set this program back even further. Nonetheless, good luck Cyrus and hope he can find a role as an OLB elsewhere.

How do you determine if a recruiting class is a bust?
 
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The ‘22 class was a flat out disaster, both portal and HS. Although Mario didn’t have much time to do anything regarding the HS kids.

Set this program back even further. Nonetheless, good luck Cyrus and hope he can find a role as an OLB elsewhere.


I think it’s too early to still determine that. Citizen Kelly both are injured. But we have Wes, cooper, Colbie young, moten, Horton, Jaden Harris, Matt McCoy still apart of the depth.
 
Still weighs 208lbs.

He’s a tweener
What corner/safety?

It's sucks because he looked shot out of a cannon in practice reps but you just can't have a kid weighing 205 lbs lining up at DE/OLB.
 
How do you determine if a recruiting class is a bust?
In fairness it’s still early for some, but…

High School guys

Skinner - no longer with the team
Moss - no longer with the team
Cooper - success
Kelly - regressed sophomore season, ended up getting hurt and now in jeopardy of falling in the depth chart. Still depth at worst

Graves - no longer with the team
Rogers - no longer with the team
Citizen - Hasn’t contributed due to unfortunate circumstances and rumored to hit the portal
Moten - Depth piece/hasn’t played much

Wes - developed into “starter” (split reps at times) but ups and downs this year, possibly rumored to hit portal if recruited over

J. Brown - relative non-factor and is considered to be potentially portal bound after the upcoming bowl game

M. Williams - depth / hardly plays, might get recruited over
J. Harris - depth, hope is that he’s ready next year

McCoy - depth but looks promising and should be ready to potentially start next season

Horton - minimal contributor and a portal candidate

C. Young - starter and important addition

Portal guys
Ladson - gone and was a bust
Moultrie - gone, non-factor
D. Jackson - transferred to FSU
Mesidor - injury prone, hope is he can stay healthy next season
Agude - gone, meh contributor
Denis - Atrocious
Lichtenstein - relative non-factor
Sagapolu - small and borderline unplayable
Johnson - gone, average contributor
Parrish - some success but battled injuries and is now rumored to hit the portal

He didn’t have a lot of time with the HS guys, but we can’t have this magnitude of busts or underachievers going forward if he’s roster-building, especially when it relates to the blue-chips (Moss, Kelly, Citizen, Skinner, Horton, Wes, Graves, Rogers).

Part of the reason we’re having this massive overhaul right now is because of the lack of impact-players from this class.
 
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In fairness it’s still early for some, but…

High School guys

Skinner - no longer with the team
Moss - no longer with the team
Cooper - success
Kelly - regressed sophomore season, ended up getting hurt and now in jeopardy of falling in the depth chart. Still depth at worst

Graves - no longer with the team
Rogers - no longer with the team
Citizen - Hasn’t contributed due to unfortunate circumstances and rumored to hit the portal
Moten - Depth piece/hasn’t played much

Wes - developed into “starter” (split reps at times) but ups and downs this year, possibly rumored to hit portal if recruited over

J. Brown - relative non-factor and is considered to be potentially portal bound after the upcoming bowl game

M. Williams - depth / hardly plays, might get recruited over
J. Harris - depth, hope is that he’s ready next year

McCoy - depth but looks promising and should be ready to potentially start next season

Horton - minimal contributor and a portal candidate

C. Young - starter and important addition

Portal guys
Ladson - gone and was a bust
Moultrie - gone, non-factor
D. Jackson - transferred to FSU
Mesidor - injury prone, hope is he can stay healthy next season
Agude - gone, meh contributor
Denis - Atrocious
Lichtenstein - relative non-factor
Sagapolu - small and borderline unplayable
Johnson - gone, average contributor
Parrish - some success but battled injuries and is now rumored to hit the portal

He didn’t have a lot of time with the HS guys, but we can’t have this magnitude of busts or underachievers going forward if he’s roster-building, especially when it relates to the blue-chips (Moss, Kelly, Citizen, Skinner, Horton, Wes, Graves, Rogers).

Part of the reason we’re having this massive overhaul right now is because of the lack of impact-players from this class.
Wasn’t colbie a JuCo guy also? Makes the hs list even worse.
 
In fairness it’s still early for some, but…

High School guys

Skinner - no longer with the team
Moss - no longer with the team
Cooper - success
Kelly - regressed sophomore season, ended up getting hurt and now in jeopardy of falling in the depth chart. Still depth at worst

Graves - no longer with the team
Rogers - no longer with the team
Citizen - Hasn’t contributed due to unfortunate circumstances and rumored to hit the portal
Moten - Depth piece/hasn’t played much

Wes - developed into “starter” (split reps at times) but ups and downs this year, possibly rumored to hit portal if recruited over

J. Brown - relative non-factor and is considered to be potentially portal bound after the upcoming bowl game

M. Williams - depth / hardly plays, might get recruited over
J. Harris - depth, hope is that he’s ready next year

McCoy - depth but looks promising and should be ready to potentially start next season

Horton - minimal contributor and a portal candidate

C. Young - starter and important addition

Portal guys
Ladson - gone and was a bust
Moultrie - gone, non-factor
D. Jackson - transferred to FSU
Mesidor - injury prone, hope is he can stay healthy next season
Agude - gone, meh contributor
Denis - Atrocious
Lichtenstein - relative non-factor
Sagapolu - small and borderline unplayable
Johnson - gone, average contributor
Parrish - some success but battled injuries and is now rumored to hit the portal

He didn’t have a lot of time with the HS guys, but we can’t have this magnitude of busts or underachievers going forward if he’s roster-building, especially when it relates to the blue-chips (Moss, Kelly, Citizen, Skinner, Horton, Wes, Graves, Rogers).

Part of the reason we’re having this massive overhaul right now is because of the lack of impact-players from this class.

I agree for the most part, except there’s a few in there that I’d say have more potential like Horton.
 
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In fairness it’s still early for some, but…

High School guys

Skinner - no longer with the team
Moss - no longer with the team
Cooper - success
Kelly - regressed sophomore season, ended up getting hurt and now in jeopardy of falling in the depth chart. Still depth at worst

Graves - no longer with the team
Rogers - no longer with the team
Citizen - Hasn’t contributed due to unfortunate circumstances and rumored to hit the portal
Moten - Depth piece/hasn’t played much

Wes - developed into “starter” (split reps at times) but ups and downs this year, possibly rumored to hit portal if recruited over

J. Brown - relative non-factor and is considered to be potentially portal bound after the upcoming bowl game

M. Williams - depth / hardly plays, might get recruited over
J. Harris - depth, hope is that he’s ready next year

McCoy - depth but looks promising and should be ready to potentially start next season

Horton - minimal contributor and a portal candidate

C. Young - starter and important addition

Portal guys
Ladson - gone and was a bust
Moultrie - gone, non-factor
D. Jackson - transferred to FSU
Mesidor - injury prone, hope is he can stay healthy next season
Agude - gone, meh contributor
Denis - Atrocious
Lichtenstein - relative non-factor
Sagapolu - small and borderline unplayable
Johnson - gone, average contributor
Parrish - some success but battled injuries and is now rumored to hit the portal

He didn’t have a lot of time with the HS guys, but we can’t have this magnitude of busts or underachievers going forward if he’s roster-building, especially when it relates to the blue-chips (Moss, Kelly, Citizen, Skinner, Horton, Wes, Graves, Rogers).

Part of the reason we’re having this massive overhaul right now is because of the lack of impact-players from this class.
Oof....

We ain't just purging "Manny's guys" anymore.
 
lol.. I love when someone dislikes or "disagrees" with a fact. I had friends on the training/nutrition staff at the time and yes John Square actually played DE here at 200lbs. That was 20+ years ago and I'm not suggesting someone could pull that off today. But it happened.
 
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