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Rellyrell said:
Aight, imma take @Cribby in this. Imma try not to be long winded, but I am a bit of a historian as to this religion, which is y I bounced.

The JWs tend to cherry-pick scriptures for rules, doctrines, etc. to give the appearance that what they are doing is biblical, while either willfully ignoring full context, or being completely ignorant of full context. (Both are true as this religion frowns upon Bible scholars while championing itself as God’s only spokes people on earth, having zero theology background).

The religion actually started as a book publishing company. Their founder, who was not only a false prophet, but a self appointed fulfillment of a scriptural parable turned prophecy (only by JW’s theology) was in love w his own writings. Back in the late 1800’s, early 1900’s, the JWs formerly known as Bible Students were tasked to be door to door salesmen for his books. The 2nd leader, took it a step further by adding a scriptural connotation for this activity, so it gave them a sense of following Jesus’ disciples. However, there were many articles written in earlier times in which JWs today have zero access to that literally says “We’re here to sale books, not to preach; if individuals want a sermon they can come to our meetings.”

Many JWs have no idea why they are called “publishers” “pioneers” etc. b/c none of these terms are found in the Bible; it’s b/c back in the day sales ppl went from door to door like the vacuum guy, the encyclopedia guy, the magazine subscription guy, etc.

JW leadership also said their members had to do certain quotas to be considered righteous in God’s eyes, and that the “hours they gave to His ministry” were required by him (Again, nothing scriptural). Since 1990, the courts ruled that taxes had to be paid on these things, so the JWs from 1990 have been slowly reducing their ministry requirements every 5 years. To make up for the loss of publishing revenue, they turned to something more sinister: Have congregation members pay for real-estate and they take full control of all real estate properties free of charge.

They now have billions of dollars of world wide real estate, from either donations, free labor, or simply seizing Kingdom Halls bought and paid for by congregants. They no longer have a need of door to door; they simply peddle their message through their website, and have their members just sit there under the guise they are doing this for God. They rather parents bring up the next group of JWs b/c it’s easier and less time consuming vs. searching for vulnerable ppl through their prior practice of book selling.

It’s why JWs will slowly take u to their publications and their version of the Bible b/c it’s foundation is book publishing, but it’s now evolving into a real estate conglomerate.

That’s literally the PG-condensed version w/o getting to grimey and super detailed in it.
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The parallels to Scientology...
 
RealRussellPumps said:
Note to self...... do not let JW's into house for any reason.

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Could you imagine if Mario was a JW? 80% of the country would have converted by now 😂
 
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Rellyrell said:
Aight, imma take @Cribby in this. Imma try not to be long winded, but I am a bit of a historian as to this religion, which is y I bounced.

The JWs tend to cherry-pick scriptures for rules, doctrines, etc. to give the appearance that what they are doing is biblical, while either willfully ignoring full context, or being completely ignorant of full context. (Both are true as this religion frowns upon Bible scholars while championing itself as God’s only spokes people on earth, having zero theology background).

The religion actually started as a book publishing company. Their founder, who was not only a false prophet, but a self appointed fulfillment of a scriptural parable turned prophecy (only by JW’s theology) was in love w his own writings. Back in the late 1800’s, early 1900’s, the JWs formerly known as Bible Students were tasked to be door to door salesmen for his books. The 2nd leader, took it a step further by adding a scriptural connotation for this activity, so it gave them a sense of following Jesus’ disciples. However, there were many articles written in earlier times in which JWs today have zero access to that literally says “We’re here to sale books, not to preach; if individuals want a sermon they can come to our meetings.”

Many JWs have no idea why they are called “publishers” “pioneers” etc. b/c none of these terms are found in the Bible; it’s b/c back in the day sales ppl went from door to door like the vacuum guy, the encyclopedia guy, the magazine subscription guy, etc.

JW leadership also said their members had to do certain quotas to be considered righteous in God’s eyes, and that the “hours they gave to His ministry” were required by him (Again, nothing scriptural). Since 1990, the courts ruled that taxes had to be paid on these things, so the JWs from 1990 have been slowly reducing their ministry requirements every 5 years. To make up for the loss of publishing revenue, they turned to something more sinister: Have congregation members pay for real-estate and they take full control of all real estate properties free of charge.

They now have billions of dollars of world wide real estate, from either donations, free labor, or simply seizing Kingdom Halls bought and paid for by congregants. They no longer have a need of door to door; they simply peddle their message through their website, and have their members just sit there under the guise they are doing this for God. They rather parents bring up the next group of JWs b/c it’s easier and less time consuming vs. searching for vulnerable ppl through their prior practice of book selling.

It’s why JWs will slowly take u to their publications and their version of the Bible b/c it’s foundation is book publishing, but it’s now evolving into a real estate conglomerate.

That’s literally the PG-condensed version w/o getting to grimey and super detailed in it.
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But the interesting part is how they convince new members which is very effective.

They put all new converts into a boot camp. Every evening for 6 weeks they go to a class and learn about everything about the religion, the key doctrinal issues and the most common objections and how to respond. (This something that is commendable and should be adopted by all religions... an intro to newbies)

They then go out. Initially no one wants to tall to them and they are told it shows that they are truth speaker because Jesus was hated and they will be hated.

When they get a kind hearted Christian that wants to talk or defend their faith, their training kicks in and the new convert demolishes the convert. This is further proof that they are righteous and have the truth on their side.

And if they encounter someone that demolishes them, they bring an elder as round 2.

If they both fail, then they are marked off as followers of darkness and are to be avoided.

They pass out their tracts (use to sell them) and will never accept any in exchange because they are taught that it is pornopraphy to read the materials from other religions.

If a member leaves their entire family and community shuns them forever. Which makes it hard to leave an entire world you've been a part of. That's the component of cult, otherwise they wod just be another denomination or religion.
 
passitback said:
My wife was JW. Then this young stud entered the picture. Took me about one month to get her disfellowshipped. Elders were having none of it, lol.

Been with her since '96; didn't think I'd make it out the 90s; her pops wanted to kill me; first met him on New Years...

I went to Times Square to watch the ball drop with the fellas. Told them i was headed uptown to get some cat, bahaha....

She lived in a brownstone. Her neighbor saw me sneaking in, and called her dad. He was at work, and knew I was in his house.

Her mom found me hiding in the bedroom closet with a wife beater on, bahahaha.

Good times being chased around Harlem... Thought i'd die.
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That’s an awesome story!
 
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Trav said:
Most people in cults don't.. til they're out of it. My gf was fully indoctrinated into Quiverfull. Parents still are. We're not looking forward to the requisite visit on Christmas Day.
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Never heard of that one
 
Trav said:
Most people in cults don't.. til they're out of it. My gf was fully indoctrinated into Quiverfull. Parents still are. We're not looking forward to the requisite visit on Christmas Day.
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We all belong to the CIS Cult. People know us by our Orange and Green glasses. We get our weekly recruiting revelations from the Prophet DMoney. If you violate the administrative edicts, you get disfellowshipped from the innersanctum .
 
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obcanes said:
But the interesting part is how they convince new members which is very effective.

They put all new converts into a boot camp. Every evening for 6 weeks they go to a class and learn about everything about the religion, the key doctrinal issues and the most common objections and how to respond. (This something that is commendable and should be adopted by all religions... an intro to newbies)

They then go out. Initially no one wants to tall to them and they are told it shows that they are truth speaker because Jesus was hated and they will be hated.

When they get a kind hearted Christian that wants to talk or defend their faith, their training kicks in and the new convert demolishes the convert. This is further proof that they are righteous and have the truth on their side.

And if they encounter someone that demolishes them, they bring an elder as round 2.

If they both fail, then they are marked off as followers of darkness and are to be avoided.

They pass out their tracts (use to sell them) and will never accept any in exchange because they are taught that it is pornopraphy to read the materials from other religions.

If a member leaves their entire family and community shuns them forever. Which makes it hard to leave an entire world you've been a part of. That's the component of cult, otherwise they wod just be another denomination or religion.
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New converts go to a 6 week boot camp? Where did you hear that? 😂😂😂
 
Reppingtheu said:
Lol, not a cult. When people don’t agree or don’t understand then it’s crazy.

Im a JW, an Elder, and a regular pioneer

Im also a sports fanatic, a hip hop fan, a whiskey consumer, and @Paranos is one of my favorite posters.

We are regular people who try to apply Bible principles. You can go into any Kingdom Hall on a Sunday and see what it’s about. Don’t like it, walk out and nobody will bother you.

Somebody knocks on your door to share a scripture, say no thanks and close the door If it’s not your thing.
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Yes, Jehovah's Witnesses are a cult. Jehovah's Witnesses is a theological cult because it denies the essential truths of theology (i.e., the trinity, the person and work of Christ, and etc.). Since Jehovah's Witnesses consider themselves Christians (however, not protestants), and deny essential tenets of the Christian faith, they are by definition a theological cult.
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
No way Blount went lights off, no one’s home when they pulled up HAHAH
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Back in high school I was in a metal band. One day, the Jehovah's Witnesses showed up. Well, my band wasn't around, but some non musical friends were. Me being the prankster, I gave them 10 second music lessons and cranked the amps. One guy beat on the drums, terribly, but loudly. Another guy just hit bass strings. While I played guitar and screamed, "DIE!! DIE!!! DIE!!! KILL!!! KILL!!! KILL!!!!!!!!" I have NEVER seen an old lady run so fast in my life. The old people in the car were waving her to come back, and bless her little heart, she did, as fast as her old feet could take her. The old man beat her back to the car. I can imagine their conversation as they drove away. "You left me behind, Wilbur!!!" "I'm sorry, Margret, but I knew you were more right with Jesus than me."
 
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