MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

So ... in your opinion ... what ACC school is the first one on the B10 list? (not including ND). How close are you personally to individuals involved or is what you state 100% personal opinion?
Im fortunate enough to have some professional contacts who would have direct knowledge. And, based on what i know, UNC would be the first call not including ND. But neither conference is going to do anything until house and acc settlements are finalized for both legal reasons and cost certainty reasons.
 

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Im fortunate enough to have some professional contacts who would have direct knowledge. And, based on what i know, UNC would be the first call not including ND. But neither conference is going to do anything until house and acc settlements are finalized for both legal reasons and cost certainty reasons.
AGREE 100% that nothing will be done ... finalized ... until the house and ACC settlement are signed on the dotted line. But i would not be surprised if quite a few conversations are being held by several schools who don't want to be left behind.
 
AGREE 100% that nothing will be done ... finalized ... until the house and ACC settlement are signed on the dotted line. But i would not be surprised if quite a few conversations are being held by several schools who don't want to be left behind.
Add a reasonable idea of what the next broadcasting agreements will be as a precondition to expansion. Everyone thinks they are going to keep increasing their deals with Fox, Peacock, CBS, ESPN, and add TNT, Apple TV, Netflix, Prime, etc. But, ESPN has their NBA commitments, the NFL agreements have an opt-out clause in 2029 if I remember correctly, and Fox will have to commit to MLB next year. As good a product as CFB has been for everyone, there are other factors to consider for everyone.
 
Add a reasonable idea of what the next broadcasting agreements will be as a precondition to expansion. Everyone thinks they are going to keep increasing their deals with Fox, Peacock, CBS, ESPN, and add TNT, Apple TV, Netflix, Prime, etc. But, ESPN has their NBA commitments, the NFL agreements have an opt-out clause in 2029 if I remember correctly, and Fox will have to commit to MLB next year. As good a product as CFB has been for everyone, there are other factors to consider for everyone.
True ... but one of the realignment driving comments has been that due to programming low viewer interest games in the past college football has been a huge under performing "asset" compared to potential when a higher % of games broadcast are of big brand vs big brand. There is a huge upside to potential $$ in college football and that is what the P2 networks will be chasing.
 
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The networks have taken over realignment and the rumor is Fox wants FSU. Fox has a 10 year MLB contract 2018-28 worth $5.1 billion. I want to say only on Sat. While CFB is the 2nd biggest money maker behind the NFL, the ACC has their awful 20 year contract with ESPN for $6 billion. This is all ACC sports. While ACC ratings aren't the best, I would think they are higher than MLB. Unbelievable!
 
The problem with several ACC schools and a few in the Big10 and SEC is they just aren’t football TV draws. BC is one, no one in Massachusetts watches college football. It’s an NFL, MLB and NHL market. Similar with Wake and Vandy where they are small private schools in a market where NC is basketball oriented and the football market is dominated by the two big state schools and Tennessee which loves college football is UT orange from Nashville to the tri cities.
I would think Syracuse has a similar problem to BC, even though it’s the largest college football brand, how many households in its largest market, NYC watch college football? I’d WAG that it’s microscopic in comparison to the SFLA, Atlanta and Pittsburgh MSA’s in terms of % of households.
 
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Im fortunate enough to have some professional contacts who would have direct knowledge. And, based on what i know, UNC would be the first call not including ND. But neither conference is going to do anything until house and acc settlements are finalized for both legal reasons and cost certainty reasons.
Where do you see us on the list? If so far it’s…
1- ND
2- UNC
3-??
4-??

TIA
 
Where do you see us on the list? If so far it’s…
1- ND
2- UNC
3-??
4-??

TIA
Somewhere in the 3-6 range. From my conversations with some people in the industry, 1 and 2 are pretty much a given and then 3-6 are definitely P2 schools but their order can vary depending on who you ask and for which conference as not everyone weighs all factors the same. I will also say, as i have before, that realignment is much closer to a game of musical chairs than anything else. Timing and who is fluid and any one event could cause the music to stop abruptly. Just dont get caught without a chair...
 
If I had a dollar for every time someone on Warchant or FSU Twitter said that they were “gone,” “it’s done,” “we’ve accepted an invite to the SEC/B1G,” I’d have enough money to pay the current exit fee.

What they’re reporting on over there - realignment wise - are the delusions of grandeur of their boosters and pure wishcasting.

FSU has a strong brand and leverage going into realignment. But their own view of what they offer is massively inflated.

The best way I can put it is that they think they’re Notre Dame. Clearly, they are not.
 
Somewhere in the 3-6 range. From my conversations with some people in the industry, 1 and 2 are pretty much a given and then 3-6 are definitely P2 schools but their order can vary depending on who you ask and for which conference as not everyone weighs all factors the same. I will also say, as i have before, that realignment is much closer to a game of musical chairs than anything else. Timing and who is fluid and any one event could cause the music to stop abruptly. Just dont get caught without a chair...
UNC being above Miami of FSU always makes no sense to me. If I were building a conference from scratch UNC would barely scratched the 40s….

But regardless no way SEC doesn’t prioritize UNC most of all. So they’ll go there imo. B1G wants ND no matter what and they don’t fit SEC at all. From there we would go B1G, Clemson would go SEC and FSU is the big toss up imo
 
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If I had a dollar for every time someone on Warchant or FSU Twitter said that they were “gone,” “it’s done,” “we’ve accepted an invite to the SEC/B1G,” I’d have enough money to pay the current exit fee.

What they’re reporting on over there - realignment wise - are the delusions of grandeur of their boosters and pure wishcasting.

FSU has a strong brand and leverage going into realignment. But their own view of what they offer is massively inflated.

The best way I can put it is that they think they’re Notre Dame. Clearly, they are not.
So they would fit in perfectly in this thread?
 
The problem with several ACC schools and a few in the Big10 and SEC is they just aren’t football TV draws. BC is one, no one in Massachusetts watches college football. It’s an NFL, MLB and NHL market. Similar with Wake and Vandy where they are small private schools in a market where NC is basketball oriented and the football market is dominated by the two big state schools and Tennessee which loves college football is UT orange from Nashville to the tri cities.
I would think Syracuse has a similar problem to BC, even though it’s the largest college football brand, how many households in its largest market, NYC watch college football? I’d WAG that it’s microscopic in comparison to the SFLA, Atlanta and Pittsburgh MSA’s in terms of % of households.
NYC has tons of college football viewers, but it’s all the people who went to college elsewhere, now live and work in NYC and are watching their college. They aren’t watching NYC-area schools, such as Rutgers. I lived there for the three years I was in law school, so my UM friends and I would meet up at the bar that showed the Miami games. My Gator friends went to the UF bar. There was of course the Penn State bar, the Michigan bar, the Ohio State bar, the Duke bar, and so on and so forth.
 
UNC being above Miami of FSU always makes no sense to me. If I were building a conference from scratch UNC would barely scratched the 40s….

But regardless no way SEC doesn’t prioritize UNC most of all. So they’ll go there imo. B1G wants ND no matter what and they don’t fit SEC at all. From there we would go B1G, Clemson would go SEC and FSU is the big toss up imo
I see fsu and Miami to B10 as a package deal like UCLA and USC
 
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NYC has tons of college football viewers, but it’s all the people who went to college elsewhere, now live and work in NYC and are watching their college. They aren’t watching NYC-area schools, such as Rutgers. I lived there for the three years I was in law school, so my UM friends and I would meet up at the bar that showed the Miami games. My Gator friends went to the UF bar. There was of course the Penn State bar, the Michigan bar, the Ohio State bar, the Duke bar, and so on and so forth.

NYC is the #1 DMA for College Football. There is no downside to that. They watch the same games everyone else does. One thing is absolutely true, people still watch the Canes when they are good.
 
I see fsu and Miami to B10 as a package deal like UCLA and USC
The B10, reportedly, values rivalries. The UM / FSU rivalry goes back almost 40 years as a big time rivalry. Add in the historic ND / UM matchups (whether ND is playing as a B10 member or 'scheduling arrangement), Ohio State, Nebraska, Penn State .... Miami brings a lot of MARKETABLE HISTORY to the B10. Makes too much sense not to do it.
 
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