MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

[USNAVYCANE]

Judge sets June date for third FSU vs ACC hearing in Leon County

Leon Circuit Judge John C Cooper has set a June 18 date for the third hearing in FSU's lawsuit against the ACC in Leon County.

www.tallahassee.com

 

[Ispyin]

Proper usage of both caps and BOLD.

HAVE to HAVE three WORDS or more caps or NO CAP.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

HAVE to HAVE three WORDS or more caps or NO CAP.

 

[Empirical Cane]

HAVE to HAVE three WORDS or more caps or NO CAP.

AMATEURS need to use MULTIPLE BOLDS and ITALICS and UNDERLINES.


















Pros apply the finishing move with but a single WORD.

 

[Felonious Monk]

AMATEURS need to use MULTIPLE BOLDS and ITALICS and UNDERLINES.


















Pros apply the finishing move with but a single WORD.

WORD

 

[5NC4]

AMATEURS need to use MULTIPLE BOLDS and ITALICS and UNDERLINES.


















Pros apply the finishing move with but a single WORD.

YOU are not supposed to use AND in a sentence TWICE without a COMMA.

Glad I could participate. LMFAO!

 

[Hoyacane1620]

And so it begins..

 

[Ispyin]

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My friend, I’m only here to enforce others approaches, or depending upon your point of view, ruthlessly mock

 

[SPAMM]

I thought about the NC St split but I don’t think keeping them in the same conference would matter as much as making sure NC St doesn’t end up in the G5. Also as we see from FSU UF, you can still have an annual game between the two.

As for Pitt, you are probably right, in which case swap Baylor for Pitt in the above scenario. It unbalances the private/public a little bit but maybe you put Clemson in with the private school division even though it’s public because of the low enrollment numbers (24k total students)

You get carriage fees in Florida Texas Pennsylvania Georgia North Carolina South Carolina Indiana and California. That’s a lot of money.

To reduce your fears of imbalance, Pitt Like Temple were private schools until the mid 60's when they were bailed out of financial trouble because (my opinion), they were deemed too big to fail because they had medical schools, dental schools, law schools, etc.

 

[Empirical Cane]

To reduce your fears of imbalance, Pitt Like Temple were private schools until the mid 60's when they were bailed out of financial trouble because (my opinion), they were deemed too big to fail because they had medical schools, dental schools, law schools, etc.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

To reduce your fears of imbalance, Pitt Like Temple were private schools until the mid 60's when they were bailed out of financial trouble because (my opinion), they were deemed too big to fail because they had medical schools, dental schools, law schools, etc.

There were also other revenue factors in the 50s-60s-70s with "urban private schools" that didn't have massive endowments like Stanford, Duke, Vandy, Rice, etc.

Miami, too, explored becoming a Florida PUBLIC school. You know who blocked it? THE GATOR.

When I was younger, I was proud that Miami was a private. Now that the cost of attendance is pushing $100K per year...I'm not as sure as I once was...

 

[Empirical Cane]

There were also other revenue factors in the 50s-60s-70s with "urban private schools" that didn't have massive endowments like Stanford, Duke, Vandy, Rice, etc.

Miami, too, explored becoming a Florida PUBLIC school. You know who blocked it? THE GATOR.

When I was younger, I was proud that Miami was a private. Now that the cost of attendance is pushing $100K per year...I'm not as sure as I once was...

Unsustainable.

 

[Ispyin]

Many of you will be interested in th is even if it’s speculation. Save your time and jump in around 34 minutes. It’s live now so I can’t give you a summary yet

 

[RoboCane]

Many of you will be interested in th is even if it’s speculation. Save your time and jump in around 34 minutes. It’s live now so I can’t give you a summary yet

I watch it sometimes. The chat is infested with semenholes who think the world revolves around FSU.

 

[RoboCane]

Apparently he got some news that FSU is negotiating with the ACC to exit. Some information he received says that FSU people want to go to the SEC or the B1G. (No surprise) Now all the nole dorks believe this is happening because the SEC wants FSU to keep the B1G out of Florida. Is anything here actual evidence they are about to leave the ACC?

 

[Rellyrell]

Apparently he got some news that FSU is negotiating with the ACC. Some information that FSU people want to go to the SEC or the B1G. Now all the nole dorks believe this is happening because the SEC wants FSU to keep the B1G out of Florida.

It’s the same rhetoric, nothing groundbreaking or earth shattering. Furthermore, it’s still speculative & we know it’s speculative b/c there’s zero definitive statements made. All that needs to happen is we gotta see if or when it happens. Until then, it’s literally riveting conjecture to make the off season go by quicker.

The differences between Texas, OU, USC, UCLA, UO, UW, etc leaving their conferences v. what’s happening in the ACC is quite simple:

1. Texas & OU bailed w/ 1 yr left (Big 12 contract renews July 1 2025, & the Red River Rivals begin SEC membership July 1, 2024 when the new SEC contract begins.)

2. USC & UCLA move to the B1G was negotiated prior to The B1G new media deal, & both stayed members of the PAC-12 until their media rights officially ended at the end of the 2023-2024 season. All other schools leaving for the B1G & B12 also left when it became apparent once the media rights negotiated by the PAC-12 would put them grossly behind the all other conferences b/c The L.A market was not longer viable.

This ACC fiasco a totally different set of rules.
-Will the GOR end in 3 yrs or 9 yrs?
-Is the early exit fee predicated upon 2027 or 2036?
-Did the Presidents, Legal Counsel all willingly & knowingly sign this GOR?
-Is there any ambiguous language involved in said GOR which allows for an early terminations with minimal punitive financial damages to exiting programs?

It’s just way, too, many moving parts which is y it’s speculation, b/c while the other aforementioned program’s exits were clean w/ minimal financial obligations to their prior conferences (e.g Texas & OU exit fee was $100m COMBINED towards the Big 12, The Departing PAC-12 schools having to pay OrSU/WASU $65m COMBINED for leaving the PAC-12, w/ UCLA having to pay an add’l $10m/yr for the next 3 yrs to Cal), that’s a lot different than having to pay a potential $150-$300m exit fee. Lol.

At least there’s some speculation that FSU may just say Fck it, & swallow that financial pill.

 

[CaneInMD]

It’s the same rhetoric, nothing groundbreaking or earth shattering. Furthermore, it’s still speculative & we know it’s speculative b/c there’s zero definitive statements made. All that needs to happen is we gotta see if or when it happens. Until then, it’s literally riveting conjecture to make the off season go by quicker.

The differences between Texas, OU, USC, UCLA, UO, UW, etc leaving their conferences v. what’s happening in the ACC is quite simple:

1. Texas & OU bailed w/ 1 yr left (Big 12 contract renews July 1 2025, & the Red River Rivals begin SEC membership July 1, 2024 when the new SEC contract begins.)

2. USC & UCLA move to the B1G was negotiated prior to The B1G new media deal, & both stayed members of the PAC-12 until their media rights officially ended at the end of the 2023-2024 season. All other schools leaving for the B1G & B12 also left when it became apparent once the media rights negotiated by the PAC-12 would put them grossly behind the all other conferences b/c The L.A market was not longer viable.

This ACC fiasco a totally different set of rules.
-Will the GOR end in 3 yrs or 9 yrs?
-Is the early exit fee predicated upon 2027 or 2036?
-Did the Presidents, Legal Counsel all willingly & knowingly sign this GOR?
-Is there any ambiguous language involved in said GOR which allows for an early terminations with minimal punitive financial damages to exiting programs?

It’s just way, too, many moving parts which is y it’s speculation, b/c while the other aforementioned program’s exits were clean w/ minimal financial obligations to their prior conferences (e.g Texas & OU exit fee was $100m COMBINED towards the Big 12, The Departing PAC-12 schools having to pay OrSU/WASU $65m COMBINED for leaving the PAC-12, w/ UCLA having to pay an add’l $10m/yr for the next 3 yrs to Cal), that’s a lot different than having to pay a potential $150-$300m exit fee. Lol.

At least there’s some speculation that FSU may just say Fck it, & swallow that financial pill.

Watching all of this play out in real time, I wonder how much something like private equity might help to shape how this all plays out in the end. This is way, way out of my normal area of knowledge but its very interesting.

 

[JakeBCanes]

Let's scenario Yormark + Big 12 puts together offer for Miami close enough to SEC/B1G money annually.

Do we care if Miami goes Big 12 then?

I don't think there is any scenario where it benefits Miami to be in a non-P2 conference.

 

[JakeBCanes]

Holy ****… if that chart of rivalry game viewership is right then no wonder BIG/SEC don’t seem to want us. Our rivalry with FSU is irrelevant and we only appear twice near the bottom of the list. Ouch.

Yes, tough to hear but the Miami "brand" is no longer what it once was. The fix is simple though: win now, win the ACC, get in the CFP. Then the viewers will come back.

 

[Empirical Cane]

It’s the same rhetoric, nothing groundbreaking or earth shattering. Furthermore, it’s still speculative & we know it’s speculative b/c there’s zero definitive statements made. All that needs to happen is we gotta see if or when it happens. Until then, it’s literally riveting conjecture to make the off season go by quicker.

The differences between Texas, OU, USC, UCLA, UO, UW, etc leaving their conferences v. what’s happening in the ACC is quite simple:

1. Texas & OU bailed w/ 1 yr left (Big 12 contract renews July 1 2025, & the Red River Rivals begin SEC membership July 1, 2024 when the new SEC contract begins.)

2. USC & UCLA move to the B1G was negotiated prior to The B1G new media deal, & both stayed members of the PAC-12 until their media rights officially ended at the end of the 2023-2024 season. All other schools leaving for the B1G & B12 also left when it became apparent once the media rights negotiated by the PAC-12 would put them grossly behind the all other conferences b/c The L.A market was not longer viable.

This ACC fiasco a totally different set of rules.
-Will the GOR end in 3 yrs or 9 yrs?
-Is the early exit fee predicated upon 2027 or 2036?
-Did the Presidents, Legal Counsel all willingly & knowingly sign this GOR?
-Is there any ambiguous language involved in said GOR which allows for an early terminations with minimal punitive financial damages to exiting programs?

It’s just way, too, many moving parts which is y it’s speculation, b/c while the other aforementioned program’s exits were clean w/ minimal financial obligations to their prior conferences (e.g Texas & OU exit fee was $100m COMBINED towards the Big 12, The Departing PAC-12 schools having to pay OrSU/WASU $65m COMBINED for leaving the PAC-12, w/ UCLA having to pay an add’l $10m/yr for the next 3 yrs to Cal), that’s a lot different than having to pay a potential $150-$300m exit fee. Lol.

At least there’s some speculation that FSU may just say Fck it, & swallow that financial pill.

You forgot to add, "Who shot JR?"