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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

Ispyin said:
There are people I trust that insist SEC is not just a remote possibility and I know they have some actual access as well. Still think it’s extremely unlikely but more likely than big 12 which is never going to happen no matter how many comely octopus (edit - assclown magnet) porsts we get.
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We need porsters to start cutting wrasslin promos.
 
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Rickd said:
That is if THEY WIN THE LAW SUIT ... no way any law suit will be settled in court by this Summer. From all of the comments from the FSU side they might just take the position that they DO leave with media rights and bail before June 30. Then ... fight any ACC action in court.
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Go where!?

No conference will take them until this is settled.
 
5NC4 said:
It would hurt bad if USF made it into the B1G
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Antcane said:
What movie was this again? Saw the last 10 minutes looked at the title and was like **** I never watched this classic and watched how it ended.
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I'm sorry friend, but you must spend at least 30 mins in self-imposed Purgatory for not instantly recognizing one of the single greatest movies of all-time.

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Handsome Squidbum said:
Many here have characterized joining the Big 12 as a death sentence and we should avoid it at all costs. How can you say that is that a viable option? It’s either SEC or B1G for many. SEC isn’t interested. So that means one option. And also this isn’t the conversation we were having 4 weeks ago. That was just pure speculation. Now Flo is confirming what I thought- we weren't being quiet because Rad was playing 4D chess, it was because we didn't have a spot in the B1G and needed to keep all options open. Now the options look like partial shares in the B1G or full shares in the Big 12. It sounds like the UM brass is seriously considering the Big 12, so I'm guessing the pro/cons they are looking at are the same ones I've described.

You can't underestimate elite leadership. Big 12 has all sorts of flexibility- deals with both networks, streaming, etc. that the new commissioner negotiated that the P2 don't have because they are behemoths. If I'm UM, I'd at least hear him out. Maybe he has roadmap to get the Big 12 almost as much money as the B1G- by pulling in the best remaining ACC schools (UM, VT, GT, Louisville, Pitt) and signing streaming deals with Netflix or Amazon to give them exclusive rights to certain games.
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Pate alluded to this on tonight’s show. He said people better not sleep on the Big 12 pulling off something big and unexpected. He said the Big 12 commish is sharper than his peers and might be able to put together a financial package that makes them competitive if they can pull a school like Miami and a few others.
 
TooColdToHold said:
Pate alluded to this on tonight’s show. He said people better not sleep on the Big 12 pulling off something big and unexpected. He said the Big 12 commish is sharper than his peers and might be able to put together a financial package that makes them competitive if they can pull a school like Miami and a few others.
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The financial package the Big 12 commish offers does not offer the research $ and academic standing that the B1G offers, along with future inclusion in the 2 megaconferences who separate from the NCAA and create their own playoffs and super bowl. The B1G and SEC create the AFC and NFC with their own playoffs and super bowl, and it is coming faster than folks want to admit. They are going to separate from the sorry *** NCAA. Be included or be locked out. Don't be a fool. The Big 12 is absolute fool's gold.

Take the offer now for a 1/2 share now and a full share down the road if that is what is offered by the B1G, which it likely is.. Tell the Big 12 to put it in their pipe and smoke it......it isn't worth risking our future!

Once again..... the Research $ the B1G offers is much bigger than what athletics offers. It truly is funny that folks focus so much on athletics and totally disclude the ramifications on the research and academic side. This private university stands to lose so much in every aspect if they are not included in the Big 2, and more so on the Research/Academic side if it isn't the B1G. Guys need to think not only as an AD. but also a private university president who stand to gain so much as a member of the B1G. This is not only about athletics. Folks are slow if they believe that!

It is so laughable so many folks don't take EVERYTHING into consideration.

Those who are not proactive forward thinkers end up losing in the end. Don't be the loser!

Smart people know that this Big 12 nonsense is only to send a message to the B1G that the U has options to make the B1g make their best offer. Smart people can see which coach is responsible for handing the keys over on a built up program like Oregon and who built it up. Smart people can see that the U is invested and building back up. Smart people can see that financial investment and superior recruiting can eventually trump a coach who isn't elite on game day. Smart folks know what the U can be and are likely offering accordingly.
 
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Rickd said:
Look in the mirror when you say that. You use Flo as confirmation and totally distort the baseline he was using.
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I did not distort any baseline. He said his belief is the decision is purely about money, not making the fans happy or perception [presumably meaning the perception of joining a weaker conference]. He says his “sources” would know if UM has an invitation to the P2. Then he says UM hasn’t made a decision and reiterates this will be about money.

You would have to be a special kind of stupid to not understand that he’s implying that Big 12 may be offering a competitive financial package and that he thinks UM doesn’t care if fans feel the Big 12 sucks- if it is offering more money, then Flo thinks UM will pick the Big 12. The only way I can explain how the Big 12 could offer more money is if the B1G isn’t offering full shares. If you have a problem with that, then write Flo and tell him you know more than him.

And as @TooColdToHold posted, now Josh Pate is hinting that the Big12 is looking to make a power move and will take a run at Miami. He said exactly what I said- the Big 12 commissioner is the best in the P5. Don’t underestimate him.

I tend to agree that 50% shares in the B1G are still better than full shares in the Big 12. But if the B1G offers less than 50% or the Big 12 somehow offers UM more than full shares , my super controversial opinion is that it’s a tougher choice. This playing out pretty much like I said it would weeks ago.

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TooColdToHold said:
Pate alluded to this on tonight’s show. He said people better not sleep on the Big 12 pulling off something big and unexpected. He said the Big 12 commish is sharper than his peers and might be able to put together a financial package that makes them competitive if they can pull a school like Miami and a few others.
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Josh Pate’s job is to increase visibility/viewership for himself and his company. I like the dude, but he also says things to make people like him. Things he doesn’t believe himself. It would be foolish for him to tell the Big 12 fans how truly ****ed they are in all this realignment business. Hope is easy to sell. We all have purchased our fair share in the last 20 years.
 
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The State of NC is putting a ton of political pressure on UNC to keep them in the ACC. Take them out of the realignment equation for the next go around and that puts Miami as the likely travel partner to the B10 with FSU, and likely at full share, with Clemson and ?? To the SEC. Situation is fluid!!
 
Rickd said:
The State of NC is putting a ton of political pressure on UNC to keep them in the ACC. Take them out of the realignment equation for the next go around and that puts Miami as the likely travel partner to the B10 with FSU, and likely at full share, with Clemson and ?? To the SEC. Situation is fluid!!
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This is why these things should be done quietly. Had UCLA indicated they were leaving the pressure would have been monumental. As it was it was a **** show after it was announced. However, if the BOT of NC wants to leave, and if they are able to leave, it doesnt matter what the local politicians want, they will leave.
 
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Handsome Squidbum said:
I did not distort any baseline. He said his belief is the decision is purely about money, not making the fans happy or perception [presumably meaning the perception of joining a weaker conference]. He says his “sources” would know if UM has an invitation to the P2. Then he says UM hasn’t made a decision and reiterates this will be about money.

You would have to be a special kind of stupid to not understand that he’s implying that Big 12 may be offering a competitive financial package and that he thinks UM doesn’t care if fans feel the Big 12 sucks- if it is offering more money, then Flo thinks UM will pick the Big 12. The only way I can explain how the Big 12 could offer more money is if the B1G isn’t offering full shares. If you have a problem with that, then write Flo and tell him you know more than him.

And as @TooColdToHold posted, now Josh Pate is hinting that the Big12 is looking to make a power move and will take a run at Miami. He said exactly what I said- the Big 12 commissioner is the best in the P5. Don’t underestimate him.

I tend to agree that 50% shares in the B1G are still better than full shares in the Big 12. But if the B1G offers less than 50% or the Big 12 somehow offers UM more than full shares , my super controversial opinion is that it’s a tougher choice. This playing out pretty much like I said it would weeks ago.

Macho Man Deal With It GIF
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Hey, I'm bored, so I listened to Late Kick Josh. He didn't say "The B12 will take a run at Miami". What he said was "watch out for Brett Yormark and the B12. If he gets the financial backing and the B10 and SEC don't make a move to add ACC teams, imagine if he was able to add a UNC, or FSU or Miami to the B12". Everybody is speculating and nobody knows what will happen. But all indications are that the B10 at the very least WILL add a couple of ACC teams and there is a belief that the SEC, at least in a defensive move, will add a couple. IF UNC is out of consideration due to being a NC political hot potato ... Miami to the B10 odds improve. There was a number thrown out that the ACC conference economic impact on the Charlotte metro area is close to $500-600M per year due to all of the ACC events held there + HQ and salaries etc. "They" want to protect the regional economy.
 
Rickd said:
Hey, I'm bored, so I listened to Late Kick Josh. He didn't say "The B12 will take a run at Miami". What he said was "watch out for Brett Yormark and the B12. If he gets the financial backing and the B10 and SEC don't make a move to add ACC teams, imagine if he was able to add a UNC, or FSU or Miami to the B12". Everybody is speculating and nobody knows what will happen. But all indications are that the B10 at the very least WILL add a couple of ACC teams and there is a belief that the SEC, at least in a defensive move, will add a couple. IF UNC is out of consideration due to being a NC political hot potato ... Miami to the B10 odds improve. There was a number thrown out that the ACC conference economic impact on the Charlotte metro area is close to $500-600M per year due to all of the ACC events held there + HQ and salaries etc. "They" want to protect the regional economy.
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ACC = Tobacco Road 🤡
 
Rickd said:
Hey, I'm bored, so I listened to Late Kick Josh. He didn't say "The B12 will take a run at Miami". What he said was "watch out for Brett Yormark and the B12. If he gets the financial backing and the B10 and SEC don't make a move to add ACC teams, imagine if he was able to add a UNC, or FSU or Miami to the B12". Everybody is speculating and nobody knows what will happen. But all indications are that the B10 at the very least WILL add a couple of ACC teams and there is a belief that the SEC, at least in a defensive move, will add a couple. IF UNC is out of consideration due to being a NC political hot potato ... Miami to the B10 odds improve. There was a number thrown out that the ACC conference economic impact on the Charlotte metro area is close to $500-600M per year due to all of the ACC events held there + HQ and salaries etc. "They" want to protect the regional economy.
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ACC won't add any value once it dissolves. It could still bring meaningful revenue to the area as a 2nd tier conference though.
 
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