MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

[Empirical Cane]

I've got 2 little kids that take up 99% of my time, so I have zero idea what's going on in pop culture. I see this broad's name come up all the time now, and I gotta be honest, I don't understand it. What has she done to make her so popular? Is she a good actress? Is it a deal where she is actually good at her craft but just happens to hot as well?

I mean, yeah she's hot and has got big 'ol fake ****ies, but so do lots other women. Why did this one become so popular?

not fake...100% certified real cannons...

@ithacane also smooth like the marble on a bank lobby floor...GUARANTEED

 

[cway313]

I've got 2 little kids that take up 99% of my time, so I have zero idea what's going on in pop culture. I see this broad's name come up all the time now, and I gotta be honest, I don't understand it. What has she done to make her so popular? Is she a good actress? Is it a deal where she is actually good at her craft but just happens to hot as well?

I mean, yeah she's hot and has got big 'ol fake ****ies, but so do lots other women. Why did this one become so popular?

I've watched Madame Webb and an episode of Euphoria. Neither were for her acting abilities.

 

[Squid Bumciorek]

not fake...100% certified real cannons...

@ithacane also smooth like the marble on a bank lobby floor...GUARANTEED

Dubious. I would have to give them the old squeeze test to verify.

 

[coffeecane]

If you have a new relationship already in the bag with Sydney Sweeney, you don’t give a ****.

 

[atlCanesFan]

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My predicted rivals for Miami:

App State and Coastal Carolina...

 

[BS85]

If you want a clean divorce from your wife, you don’t live stream yourself calling her a c*** while spray painting her car.

You let the attorneys hash out the material details behind closed doors.

 

[Rickd]

I'm still baffled why you guys seem convinced that the Big 10 is our only path and you seem to completely disregard or forget about the SEC.

Sure the Big 10 might be a good fit, but SEC was all the talk in the beginning for a reason IMO.

How many small, private universities, that are not THE flagship schools of their state are in the SEC? There also seems to be a strong interest by the SEC in consolidating their geographic region (some have called it re-uniting the Confederate Battle Flag states). We don't fit either.

 

[Felonious Monk]

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[TheOriginalCane]

I mean, that's speculation. And maybe we do end up in the Big 10, but the only thing I've ever heard from anyone who might know something is SEC... I never heard anything about the Big 10. Granted that was a little while ago and things do change. But our history of flirting with the SEC conference goes way way back.

Honestly, gun to my head, I would bet we go to the SEC over the Big 10. But I'm probably the only ************ saying that, alone on my hill waving my little flag. So it's all good. Either conference is good with me. I like the Big 10 for the matchups, but I like the SEC for recruiting and because I don't think the Big 10 will survive another decade. Eventually the P2 will become a P1, when they're done gutting all the other conferences they'll start gutting each other and the SEC wins that war, IMO.

Sir, it's nearly impossible to get into all of the details on this thread, but it's more than just "speculation".

Please bear in mind, I am technically an alum of both Miami and Florida (LLM-Tax), and I grew up in Orlando. I'm longtime friends with quite a few Gator alums. I currently live in ATL. I've been surrounded by SEC-SEC-SEC nearly my entire life. The SEC is not happening.

I'm not denying that there were conversations in the past. Also, in the past, geography was a much stronger consideration. The Big 10 taking Pacific-coast teams has largely obliterated that "geography" concept forever. The Gators, and possibly every other school in the SEC, will not support THREE teams from one state, and if the SEC had its choice, they would take F$U over Miami. All day, every day.

The Big 10 conversations have been going on for a LONG time. Longer than can probably be publicly admitted. The first clear public sign was AAU membership. But our former President has been conversing with her friends in the Big 10 for quite some time. And the Big 10 actually NEEDS Miami more than the SEC does (or perhaps more than the SEC admits). And as alums, we should also acknowledge that the Big 10 scratches the academic itch that Miami has, far more than the SEC does (regardless of Austin and Hogtown).

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions on preferring the Big 10 over the SEC or vice versa. But those preferences should not be confused by what is most likely to happen. There is NOTHING "predicate" oriented that is transpiring between Miami and the SEC. Nothing. I never rule anything out completely, maybe there is some President/AD/Commissioner turnover at the SEC and the thinking on Miami changes, and/or the competitive lust to out-do the Big 10 takes over. But short of that, we will not be extended a bid to join the SEC.

I know that some of the younger posters don't understand the deeply-held tenets of people like Christian-Nationalist-Socialists and Lost Causers, who firmly believe that they can manifest Judgment Day and/or the South Rising Again. But the SEC is intent on expanding to represent all 13 stars on the Confederate battle flag, and that means flying the SEC flag over North Carolina and Virginia, the last 2 states on their checklist.

Talk to some really old Bull Gators (or any old SEC boosters). They'll tell you. I (briefly) used to work for a Bull Gator tax partner, who was not afraid to drop the N-word. When they think "you're one of them", old SEC moneybag-types will tell you the master plan.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

I've got 2 little kids that take up 99% of my time, so I have zero idea what's going on in pop culture. I see this broad's name come up all the time now, and I gotta be honest, I don't understand it. What has she done to make her so popular? Is she a good actress? Is it a deal where she is actually good at her craft but just happens to hot as well?

I mean, yeah she's hot and has got big 'ol fake ****ies, but so do lots other women. Why did this one become so popular?

Watch "Euphoria" on HBO.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

How many small, private universities, that are not THE flagship schools of their state are in the SEC? There also seems to be a strong interest by the SEC in consolidating their geographic region (some have called it re-uniting the Confederate Battle Flag states). We don't fit either.

Yep.

The SEC has exactly one private school. A founding member of the SEC.

Since the original formation date of the SEC in 1932, the conference has never added a private school. Never.

However, they have booted a couple. Tulane. The University of the South (Sewanee).

But the SEC has never ADDED a private school.

 

[cway313]

Watch "Euphoria" on HBO.

At least season 2 episode 1. I couldn't imagine watching more than that.

 

[RightSaidFred]

How many small, private universities, that are not THE flagship schools of their state are in the SEC? There also seems to be a strong interest by the SEC in consolidating their geographic region (some have called it re-uniting the Confederate Battle Flag states). We don't fit either.

But Big 10 is also mainly large public schools. Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, etc. Also, we are in the SEC geographic region. I do somewhat agree that the “fit” is better in the Big Ten but there are “fit” considerations that favor the SEC as well though, like travel for non-revenue sports for example, and overlap to the recruiting areas of central/north Florida and Georgia.

Like I said though, maybe we do end up in the big 10…I’m just pointing out that yall seem to have given up on the SEC completely based on one article that came out several months ago

 

[TheOriginalCane]

But Big 10 is also mainly large public schools. Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, etc. Also, we are in the SEC geographic region. I do somewhat agree that the “fit” is better in the Big Ten but there are “fit” considerations that favor the SEC as well though, like travel for non-revenue sports for example, and overlap to the recruiting areas of central/north Florida and Georgia.

Like I said though, maybe we do end up in the big 10…I’m just pointing out that yall seem to have given up on the SEC completely based on one article that came out several months ago

When you think about it, MOST colleges that play sports are "mainly large public schools". So conference memberships will always be disproportionate in that way.

But the Big 10 just invited a significant private school (USC), the school that is probably one of the MOST comparable to Miami in many ways.

For the record, I am NOT basing my opinion on one article that came out several months ago.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Sir, it's nearly impossible to get into all of the details on this thread, but it's more than just "speculation".

Please bear in mind, I am technically an alum of both Miami and Florida (LLM-Tax), and I grew up in Orlando. I'm longtime friends with quite a few Gator alums. I currently live in ATL. I've been surrounded by SEC-SEC-SEC nearly my entire life. The SEC is not happening.

I'm not denying that there were conversations in the past. Also, in the past, geography was a much stronger consideration. The Big 10 taking Pacific-coast teams has largely obliterated that "geography" concept forever. The Gators, and possibly every other school in the SEC, will not support THREE teams from one state, and if the SEC had its choice, they would take F$U over Miami. All day, every day.

The Big 10 conversations have been going on for a LONG time. Longer than can probably be publicly admitted. The first clear public sign was AAU membership. But our former President has been conversing with her friends in the Big 10 for quite some time. And the Big 10 actually NEEDS Miami more than the SEC does (or perhaps more than the SEC admits). And as alums, we should also acknowledge that the Big 10 scratches the academic itch that Miami has, far more than the SEC does (regardless of Austin and Hogtown).

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions on preferring the Big 10 over the SEC or vice versa. But those preferences should not be confused by what is most likely to happen. There is NOTHING "predicate" oriented that is transpiring between Miami and the SEC. Nothing. I never rule anything out completely, maybe there is some President/AD/Commissioner turnover at the SEC and the thinking on Miami changes, and/or the competitive lust to out-do the Big 10 takes over. But short of that, we will not be extended a bid to join the SEC.

I know that some of the younger posters don't understand the deeply-held tenets of people like Christian-Nationalist-Socialists and Lost Causers, who firmly believe that they can manifest Judgment Day and/or the South Rising Again. But the SEC is intent on expanding to represent all 13 stars on the Confederate battle flag, and that means flying the SEC flag over North Carolina and Virginia, the last 2 states on their checklist.

Talk to some really old Bull Gators (or any old SEC boosters). They'll tell you. I (briefly) used to work for a Bull Gator tax partner, who was not afraid to drop the N-word. When they think "you're one of them", old SEC moneybag-types will tell you the master plan.

B1G is the clearly better choice for the University... get it done.

 

[RightSaidFred]

Sir, it's nearly impossible to get into all of the details on this thread, but it's more than just "speculation".

Please bear in mind, I am technically an alum of both Miami and Florida (LLM-Tax), and I grew up in Orlando. I'm longtime friends with quite a few Gator alums. I currently live in ATL. I've been surrounded by SEC-SEC-SEC nearly my entire life. The SEC is not happening.

I'm not denying that there were conversations in the past. Also, in the past, geography was a much stronger consideration. The Big 10 taking Pacific-coast teams has largely obliterated that "geography" concept forever. The Gators, and possibly every other school in the SEC, will not support THREE teams from one state, and if the SEC had its choice, they would take F$U over Miami. All day, every day.

The Big 10 conversations have been going on for a LONG time. Longer than can probably be publicly admitted. The first clear public sign was AAU membership. But our former President has been conversing with her friends in the Big 10 for quite some time. And the Big 10 actually NEEDS Miami more than the SEC does (or perhaps more than the SEC admits). And as alums, we should also acknowledge that the Big 10 scratches the academic itch that Miami has, far more than the SEC does (regardless of Austin and Hogtown).

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions on preferring the Big 10 over the SEC or vice versa. But those preferences should not be confused by what is most likely to happen. There is NOTHING "predicate" oriented that is transpiring between Miami and the SEC. Nothing. I never rule anything out completely, maybe there is some President/AD/Commissioner turnover at the SEC and the thinking on Miami changes, and/or the competitive lust to out-do the Big 10 takes over. But short of that, we will not be extended a bid to join the SEC.

I know that some of the younger posters don't understand the deeply-held tenets of people like Christian-Nationalist-Socialists and Lost Causers, who firmly believe that they can manifest Judgment Day and/or the South Rising Again. But the SEC is intent on expanding to represent all 13 stars on the Confederate battle flag, and that means flying the SEC flag over North Carolina and Virginia, the last 2 states on their checklist.

Talk to some really old Bull Gators (or any old SEC boosters). They'll tell you. I (briefly) used to work for a Bull Gator tax partner, who was not afraid to drop the N-word. When they think "you're one of them", old SEC moneybag-types will tell you the master plan.

You know we’re good. And one thing I like about you is that, unlike 90% of the people on this board, your mind is capable of understanding nuance in an argument. Keep in mind, then, that all I really said was that I was surprised people have COMPLETELY discounted the SEC (not you, but people in general).

You might also acknowledge that it BENEFITS Miami to have options or the perception of options. You can negotiate a better salary if you claim to have two job offers, even if you only really intend to accept one.

Also, I don’t doubt your sources but I can say that I did hear from the UM side nearly 5 years ago that we were talking with the SEC. And I also know (and this is probably public knowledge) that we were talking regularly with Mike Slive, who worked at UM, for quite a while so the ties are there.

If I were UM, I would absolutely leverage Donna Shalala to help get us a Big Ten offer. I would, at the same time, be working the SEC in the same way. (Slive is dead but you get the picture). Yes they do prefer FSU and always have, and yes UF might object (though I think this is overstated on fan boards), but we would be a valuable asset to either P2 conference and I contend that it would be a poor negotiating tactic to put all of our eggs in one basket.

Maybe I’m just getting old but the reason I can’t discount the SEC is I know we’ve been flirting with them for decades.

The next time someone from an SEC school tells you we’re not a fit, ask them if Nick Saban is a “fit” in the SEC. Then ask them why he chose to move to Jupiter Island, Florida. That will shut them up,

 

[RightSaidFred]

When you think about it, MOST colleges that play sports are "mainly large public schools". So conference memberships will always be disproportionate in that way.

But the Big 10 just invited a significant private school (USC), the school that is probably one of the MOST comparable to Miami in many ways.

For the record, I am NOT basing my opinion on one article that came out several months ago.

There are really only three private schools with the football cache to play in the P2, unless I’m totally forgetting someone. USC, Notre Dame, and Miami. Because that subset is so small, I argue that the fact the SEC hasn’t taken any private schools is not indicative of their willingness to do so in the future

 

[RightSaidFred]

The other argument that favors the SEC from Miami’s perspective is UF.

Right now, the most lucrative game on Miami’s schedule is our rivalry with FSU. We get to play that game in Hard Rock every other year.

Now imagine if UF and FSU and Miami all played in the same conference. Then we would conceivably play either UF OR FSU at home EVERY season.

That would be a huge boost to Miami’s athletic department and you might be persuaded to believe that the financial windfall from that (doubling our rivalry games) might be attractive to UM.

Just something to chew on.

 

[atlCanesFan]

There are really only three private schools with the football cache to play in the P2, unless I’m totally forgetting someone. USC, Notre Dame, and Miami. Because that subset is so small, I argue that the fact the SEC hasn’t taken any private schools is not indicative of their willingness to do so in the future

By default Northwestern (B1G) , will be in there, and at some point I believe Stanford will be a part of P2 as well. (both private)

 

[kccanefan]

Sir, it's nearly impossible to get into all of the details on this thread, but it's more than just "speculation".

Please bear in mind, I am technically an alum of both Miami and Florida (LLM-Tax), and I grew up in Orlando. I'm longtime friends with quite a few Gator alums. I currently live in ATL. I've been surrounded by SEC-SEC-SEC nearly my entire life. The SEC is not happening.

I'm not denying that there were conversations in the past. Also, in the past, geography was a much stronger consideration. The Big 10 taking Pacific-coast teams has largely obliterated that "geography" concept forever. The Gators, and possibly every other school in the SEC, will not support THREE teams from one state, and if the SEC had its choice, they would take F$U over Miami. All day, every day.

The Big 10 conversations have been going on for a LONG time. Longer than can probably be publicly admitted. The first clear public sign was AAU membership. But our former President has been conversing with her friends in the Big 10 for quite some time. And the Big 10 actually NEEDS Miami more than the SEC does (or perhaps more than the SEC admits). And as alums, we should also acknowledge that the Big 10 scratches the academic itch that Miami has, far more than the SEC does (regardless of Austin and Hogtown).

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions on preferring the Big 10 over the SEC or vice versa. But those preferences should not be confused by what is most likely to happen. There is NOTHING "predicate" oriented that is transpiring between Miami and the SEC. Nothing. I never rule anything out completely, maybe there is some President/AD/Commissioner turnover at the SEC and the thinking on Miami changes, and/or the competitive lust to out-do the Big 10 takes over. But short of that, we will not be extended a bid to join the SEC.

I know that some of the younger posters don't understand the deeply-held tenets of people like Christian-Nationalist-Socialists and Lost Causers, who firmly believe that they can manifest Judgment Day and/or the South Rising Again. But the SEC is intent on expanding to represent all 13 stars on the Confederate battle flag, and that means flying the SEC flag over North Carolina and Virginia, the last 2 states on their checklist.

Talk to some really old Bull Gators (or any old SEC boosters). They'll tell you. I (briefly) used to work for a Bull Gator tax partner, who was not afraid to drop the N-word. When they think "you're one of them", old SEC moneybag-types will tell you the master plan.

You can make your point without all that South stereotyping political bull**** you interject into your post most the time. The SEC tried to invite us before and we turned them down. All that ******* nonsense you spewed at the end has nothing to do with it. Do better. Has more to do with our small alumni base/fan support, non traditional SEC game atmosphere with no on campus stadium, and recruiting.

I'm still waiting for your other predictions in this thread to come true.