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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

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Hold My Beer said:
1-5: *Notre Dame. UNC, FSU, Clemson, UVA
6-10: Duke, Miami, NC State, Va Tech
11-12: Louisville, Pitt
13-15: Cuse, BC, Wake
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There’s no way that Duke is ahead of Miami. It’s all about football and/or markets. Duke would bring neither of those in this hierarchy .
 
90scane said:
Miami will end up in the Big10 as I doubt the SEC wants Miami AND the academics align much better in the Big10 for both parties.

Miami isn't going to get left behind for a number of reasons:
1. We are in a top TV market
2. Top recruiting location
3. History of winning in the 3 revenue sports
4. AAU membership
5. Medical research
6. Willing to spend to win in sports
7. Viewship when we are a top 25 team is really good. See 2017: https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2017-college-football-tv-ratings/
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Yep

Miami could be Tarzan and yet the administration tiptoes around like Jane

Damndest thing I've ever seen
 
90scane said:
Miami will end up in the Big10 as I doubt the SEC wants Miami AND the academics align much better in the Big10 for both parties.

Miami isn't going to get left behind for a number of reasons:
1. We are in a top TV market
2. Top recruiting location
3. History of winning in the 3 revenue sports
4. AAU membership
5. Medical research
6. Willing to spend to win in sports
7. Viewship when we are a top 25 team is really good. See 2017: https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2017-college-football-tv-ratings/
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We are in the 18th ranked TV market. It’s strong but not that strong.
 
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bobbydigius said:
We are in the 18th ranked TV market. It’s strong but not that strong.
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It matters is my point. All of it adds up to Miami needing to land somewhere. FSU's market is bad BUT they likely have better viewership especially since they have been winning more consistently. If we hit 6-0, watch Miami's viewership in 2023 jump a ton.
 
Ispyin said:
There’s no way that you cause a head of Miami. It’s all about football and/or markets. Duke would bring neither of those in this hierarchy .
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Had them listed on the same tier, so their "value" is similar imo

Miami brings more baggage than Duke if we're being honest.

Duke arguably is the No. 1 college basketball brand in the country -- something we were in football two decades ago but certainly not at this time
 
90scane said:
It matters is my point. All of it adds up to Miami needing to land somewhere. FSU's market is bad BUT they likely have better viewership especially since they have been winning more consistently. If we hit 6-0, watch Miami's viewership in 2023 jump a ton.
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Yep. I dont want to over emphasize our week 2 game against A&M, but winning that keeps us nationally relevant for our games up through UNC/Clemson. Increases our viewership numbers. It can only help our case
 
I think the ACC is the second best conference. B1G is trash outside of OSU and Mich. SC will add tremendous value.

ACC is top to bottom a better league. The issue is the dollar amount. I think we'll find a way to stay competitive and work our way out of that disparity.
 
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Canedude08 said:
Who gives a crap about why FSU and Clemson does anything? We may have a common end goal, but it's not like Clemson and FSU are looking out for us. Who knows what back deals are being cut, maybe Miami has talked to the other schools and said "Listen, we are going to want out once the B1G expands, we'll give you our vote but it comes with a price". The dissolution thing was never happening, because there's no way you were going to get 12 votes. There aren't 12 schools with the ability to upgrade that would be willing to dissolve the conference. There's maybe 6 schools with a hope of getting into either the SEC or B1G. MAYBE.
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8 schools were needed, not 12, to dissolve the conference. Now it's going to be 10. Who said Clemson and FSU would be looking out for us (by the way, UNC was a no as well)? My point was if there was "back door deals" made as you are hopeful about, why would there not be a unanimous vote?
 
DamnLiesAndStatistics said:
Yep. I dont want to over emphasize our week 2 game against A&M, but winning that keeps us nationally relevant for our games up through UNC/Clemson. Increases our viewership numbers. It can only help our case
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Heck, even at 5-1 we likely see a boost of viewership and attendance which is needed.
 
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Ispyin said:
There’s no way that Duke is ahead of Miami. It’s all about football and/or markets. Duke would bring neither of those in this hierarchy .
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I also can't see the Virginia schools ahead of us. I know it's not all about the perception of the program, but you'd have to think the commitment level both financially and on the field isn't nearly on par as what we've shown.

Media market ok...that's more Charlottesville than Blacksburg obviously, but Miami media market + surrounding Florida cities would be more tantalizing one would think.
 
What team should we start to follow when Miami will be as relevant as Bethune Cookman*? Asking for a moper friend.

*plus the multi-million dollar facility
 
Tony4Miami said:
What IF, NCST & UNC were hard NO since they now know, schools could leave easier? Or has that been debunked already??

@TheOriginalCane ??
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I think that 6 or 8 months ago, there was more "mystery" about who was unhappy.

At this point, I think we all know who wants to move on. And we all know that the TV networks are familiar with who wants to move on.

Therefore...this is what I think will happen, and the reasons why...

1. ACC - can immediately withstand the loss of 4 teams without having to "expand again" (more on that later). "But I read that the ACC needs 15 teams with ESPN"...sure, but those 15 include non-football ND, so all you would need to do is ask UConn if they want to hoop with us. So the IMMEDIATE hot-to-trot schools (Miami, Clemson, F$U) can leave without destroying the ACC (GOR to be addressed separately, since it is "easy" if ACC teams go to the SEC, and trickier if ACC teams go to the Big 10)

2. SEC is on deck - yes we have heard that the Big 10 is the one with the most networks and timeslots, and I honestly believe that the Big 10 endgame is 24 teams. But what that means to the SEC is that they have to **** or get off the pot. Ideally, the SEC would match the Big 10 move for move, BUT they have an unpredictable TV partner in ABC-ESPN. Ultimately, whether ABC-ESPN has the timeslots for a Supersize SEC depends on whether the ACC lives or dies. And since the SEC is fanatical about footprint and the dream of the old 13-state Confederacy (including non-secession slave states Kentucky and Missouri), allow me to propose what would be the KILLER "go to 24" SEC plan: F$U, Clemson, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, GaTech, and Team #8 (Louisville, Tulane, Baylor, OK State). However, I don't think they will go to 8, 2-4 seems more likely. The GOR is easily flippable for ACC schools, as ABC-ESPN control both SEC and ACC content.

3. Big 10 countermove - this is where it gets trickier. Some of the same southeastern teams are desirable (F$U, Clemson, North Carolina). You also have Miami and POTENTIALLY Notre Dame. Now, before everyone craps on ND joining a conference, let me just say - if it's possible to offer Washington-Oregon HALF-SHARES, then it is certainly possible to offer ND an ENHANCED share to bring football. Now, my personal preference would be for the Big 10 to strike first. But ESPN is likely ****-blocking this a bit by making the GOR flippety-flop more complex, which is what greases the skids for the SEC to move first. The Big 10 only needs 4 teams to get to 24. Miami and Notre Dame would be the primary two ASSUMING the SEC takes Clemson-FSU. So then you look at the possibility of two more, and since it seems that UNC might be leaning to the SEC, I would say that the smartest 2 to take from the ACC would be VaTech and GaTech. If ND doesn't join for all sports and Clemson-F$U go SEC, then I could see Miami, VaTech, GaTech, and Team #4 (Pitt or USF). To be honest, USF is one of the smartest stealth moves that the Big 10 can make, given the demographics, AAU, on-campus stadium, and TV market (and it would be a dagger in UCF's heart).

4. Big 12 - who gives a ****.

5. ACC - if you are replacing 6 teams (and you already have 3 on-board), then I would say Washington State, Oregon State, USF are good targets.
 
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