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For someone who hasn't followed any of this... I was looking for a TL;DR explanation on why FSU, Clemson, and UNC are against expansion? What's the angle? Why are we for this expansion and how does it benefit us?
 
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AbsoluteUnit said:
For someone who hasn't followed any of this... I was looking for a TL;DR explanation on why FSU, Clemson, and UNC are against expansion? What's the angle? Why are we for this expansion and how does it benefit us?
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Read the thread.

Generally, the reason to oppose expansion is due to their being more schools which can vote, thus making a vote to dissolve the ACC harder to win by majority vote. With 15 schools, you need 8 votes to dissolve the ACC. With 18 schools, you need 10 votes to dissolve the ACC.

Frenk favors expansion, Rad does not. Frenk gets to cast Miami's vote.

Generally, the only "good" reason to be in favor of expansion is kindness and helpfulness towards whatever teams remain in the ACC, so that the ACC does not dip below 15 teams, which would allow ESPN to renegotiate an even LOWER below-market payout to the ACC.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Read the thread.

Generally, the reason to oppose expansion is due to their being more schools which can vote, thus making a vote to dissolve the ACC harder to win by majority vote. With 15 schools, you need 8 votes to dissolve the ACC. With 18 schools, you need 10 votes to dissolve the ACC.

Frenk favors expansion, Rad does not. Frenk gets to cast Miami's vote.

Generally, the only "good" reason to be in favor of expansion is kindness and helpfulness towards whatever teams remain in the ACC, so that the ACC does not dip below 15 teams, which would allow ESPN to renegotiate an even LOWER below-market payout to the ACC.
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The way I read all of this is as follows: We are doing the ACC (and ESPN?) a solid in the hopes (or maybe back room deal) that they will let us, FSU, Clemson out with a minimum of difficulties.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Read the thread.

Generally, the reason to oppose expansion is due to their being more schools which can vote, thus making a vote to dissolve the ACC harder to win by majority vote. With 15 schools, you need 8 votes to dissolve the ACC. With 18 schools, you need 10 votes to dissolve the ACC.

Frenk favors expansion, Rad does not. Frenk gets to cast Miami's vote.

Generally, the only "good" reason to be in favor of expansion is kindness and helpfulness towards whatever teams remain in the ACC, so that the ACC does not dip below 15 teams, which would allow ESPN to renegotiate an even LOWER below-market payout to the ACC.
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Is this seriously Frenk's decision alone? This isn't a weighty enough decision for the BOT to be involved and come up with a united decision?
 
Rickd said:
Frenk should be leaving soon. When is his latest contract done?
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Normally, Miami does 5 year contracts, and renews in 5-year increments. Frenk took over in mid-2015 and was due to be replaced in 2020...before COVID hit...

So I'd imagine that with our centennial coming up in 2025, he wants to be there for the big celebration (I actually know that he is really excited for this). But it would also be the PERFECT time to introduce our new President to take us into our second century.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Read the thread.

Generally, the reason to oppose expansion is due to their being more schools which can vote, thus making a vote to dissolve the ACC harder to win by majority vote. With 15 schools, you need 8 votes to dissolve the ACC. With 18 schools, you need 10 votes to dissolve the ACC.

Frenk favors expansion, Rad does not. Frenk gets to cast Miami's vote.

Generally, the only "good" reason to be in favor of expansion is kindness and helpfulness towards whatever teams remain in the ACC, so that the ACC does not dip below 15 teams, which would allow ESPN to renegotiate an even LOWER below-market payout to the ACC.
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Not to be challenging you, but how is it you know this.
 
atlCanesFan said:
Not to be challenging you, but how is it you know this.
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TheOriginalCane said:
Read the thread.

Generally, the reason to oppose expansion is due to their being more schools which can vote, thus making a vote to dissolve the ACC harder to win by majority vote. With 15 schools, you need 8 votes to dissolve the ACC. With 18 schools, you need 10 votes to dissolve the ACC.

Frenk favors expansion, Rad does not. Frenk gets to cast Miami's vote.

Generally, the only "good" reason to be in favor of expansion is kindness and helpfulness towards whatever teams remain in the ACC, so that the ACC does not dip below 15 teams, which would allow ESPN to renegotiate an even LOWER below-market payout to the ACC.
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is this based on quotes that he’s made publicly somewhere?
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
No.
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So this is more of him trying to help those universities out?

I've said this before, but am I crazy to think there's academic politics involved in this that may comingle with the athletic politics? A lot of these university presidents are close and I'm sure Stanford carries a lot of clout amongst them. I could see some BIG10 presidents wanting to find a home for a Stanford after basically dismantling their conference. I've wondered if that's where Miami's motivation for a "yes" vote comes from.
 
Gsugradcanefan said:
Just saw this pop. Ummmm, i don't know what to say about this View attachment 253519
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So I can go to one of the luxury theaters with recliners, press a button so they'll bring me food or beer whenever I want, and I get to see the game with like minded fans.

Suggested improvements:
1. no spouses/children
2. Frequent pauses to return rented beer
3. Pregame strippers.
 
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