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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

Tru C said:
Stanford is one of if not the best overall athletic program in the country. They win a lot in a lot of sports. A little disingenuous to put them on the same level as an Ivy in terms of their commitment.
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We shall see...

So many arborists on this forum isn't there?


FUN FACT: Stanford students once voted the mascot to be "Robber Barons" in honor of University's founder
 
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Still can't believe how many of you think or are worried that a world exists where FOX and ESPN are willing to pay Indiana, Illinois, Vandy, Missouri, Iowa, Maryland, Rutgers, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue, Arkansas, Mississippi State, Ole Miss and Kentucky all $80 million a year but Miami won't survive.

These conference realignments are run by the networks. The conferences want money. the networks decide who's worth what..Miami is worth more to the networks than all the teams I mentioned and then some.

[BGCOLOR=initial]Mami is still a top 20 brand in college football and some could argue top 15 or 10 depending on what specifically you're measuring.[/BGCOLOR]
 
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filmcane said:
If they were smart, which they aren't, they'd make sure that Miami, FSU, Clemp'sSon, and UNC start getting SEC/B10 money and just make it merit based - what a noble concept!! Instead of money sucks like Wake Forest getting an equal share just because "that's always the way we've done it," create a rubric that is a composite of media revenue and pay the biggest earners what they're worth.

The ACC botched the last media rights negotiation, but if it wants to remain alive and relevant, that would be the way to do it - incentivize the marquee teams.

I'm certain they haven't even thought of this, but they should give those top 4 teams similar revenue to what they'd be making in one of those big two conferences, then hope that similar money plus an easier path to the playoffs is enough to keep their teams in place.
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Merit-based???? Lol we haven’t done anything
 
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RVACane said:
Merit-based???? Lol we haven’t done anything
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luckily it's not backward looking. And merit-based would also include actual ratings. You can say "oh we only had 5 wins" but if our games are drawing more interest, then we merit more money.
 
calinative umstudent said:
luckily it's not backward looking. And merit-based would also include actual ratings. You can say "oh we only had 5 wins" but if our games are drawing more interest, then we merit more money.
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I get that aspect of it. That’s brand recognition-based. Merit based implies we’ve actually earned it doing something meritorious like winning titles lately. We haven’t. We’ve never won the ACC. We’re living off the brand from 20 something years ago.
 
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RozayCane said:
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Personally I can't wait to leave the ACC (and we will be leaving the ACC), however just for the sake of interest I will have to agree with this tweet. SMU is low-key a really good addition if the ACC goes that route. It gives you the Dallas market, which is the 4th largest metro area in the country at almost 9 million people. And this is not like Rutgers or Temple, people in Texas actually like college football and SMU actually has a good following in Dallas.

It's not a Johnny come lately school either, it's just one that's trying to claw its way back. For most of their history they were part of the Southwest Conference along with Texas and Texas A&M, but the Pony Express death penalty stuff tanked their program and they were relegated to the G5, never really recovering. But as this guy says, they have very rich boosters and if someone cracks the door open for them, they'll make the most of it.

ACC could do worse than the Fighting Rhett Lashlees, is all I'm saying.
 
wdk3618 said:
Those two going to the B1G and leaving us behind with no spot anywhere else is the nightmare scenario I do not want to think about.

Maybe this ESPN gambling deal is getting money for SEC to expand? We can hope.
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Nah their gambling deal is trash. It's just rebranding the ****** barstool sportsbook.
 
MPCane17 said:
Question is who is left? If ACC remains without FSU and Clemson and the GOR stays in place, I wonder if every school just gets a nice little raise?
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Little is the key word. FSU/Clemson pay $80M a yr combined (for 10 yrs) and its split by 12 = $6.67M a yr extra = we ****ed.
 
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RVACane said:
I get that aspect of it. tThats brand recognition-based. Merit based implies we’ve actually earned it doing something meritorious like winning titles lately. We haven’t. We’ve never won the ACC. We’re living off the brand from 20 something years ago.
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TV Pays money to conference to show the games -> Miamis games get viewed more, which makes more money for TV companies -> Miami gets larger percentage...That would be definition of merit based. We would be getting rewarded for our outsized impact on generating ad revenue for the TV broadcaster. There is the merit of generating money, and the merit of on field success. The on-field success based pay can be in the form of keeping your bowl revenuene and stuff like that - which seems to be exactly what the ACC chose to do in their unequal pay model.

This isn't very different than the USWNT getting equal pay to the mens team even though they generate like 20% of the revenue for the media companies. The USWNT has been far more successful than the mens team since forever basically. Some people believe they deserve it. The reality is their pay is being subsidized by the mens team.
 
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Tony4Miami said:
Alright. I try to keep with all this realignment bull**** but if ACC GOR changes any, doesn’t that give everyone an out?? New members means new GOR.
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Not necessarily. But to get new members the ACC needs 75% (I think?) of the schools to approve them. Which means the ACC will need to concede something to the schools. I imagine the schools will ask for some concessions on the GOR.
 
calinative umstudent said:
TV Pays money to conference to show the games -> Miamis games get viewed more, which makes more money for TV companies -> Miami gets larger percentage...That would be definition of merit based. We would be getting rewarded for our outsized impact on generating ad revenue for the TV broadcaster. There is the merit of generating money, and the merit of on field success. The on-field success based pay can be in the form of keeping your bowl revenuene and stuff like that - which seems to be exactly what the ACC chose to do in their unequal pay model.

This isn't very different than the USWNT getting equal pay to the mens team even though they generate like 20% of the revenue for the media companies. The USWNT has been far more successful than the mens team since forever basically. Some people believe they deserve it. The reality is their pay is being subsidized by the mens team.
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How many viewers did our pillow fight in Charlottesville generate last year? Enough to have the rematch aired on the CW?
 
calinative umstudent said:
TV Pays money to conference to show the games -> Miamis games get viewed more, which makes more money for TV companies -> Miami gets larger percentage...That would be definition of merit based. We would be getting rewarded for our outsized impact on generating ad revenue for the TV broadcaster. There is the merit of generating money, and the merit of on field success. The on-field success based pay can be in the form of keeping your bowl revenuene and stuff like that - which seems to be exactly what the ACC chose to do in their unequal pay model.

This isn't very different than the USWNT getting equal pay to the mens team even though they generate like 20% of the revenue for the media companies. The USWNT has been far more successful than the mens team since forever basically. Some people believe they deserve it. The reality is their pay is being subsidized by the mens team.
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My God, dude. You’re wrong. Earning on merit is based on an accomplishment. We haven’t accomplished **** in years. We’re living off of 2001 still. We’re living off our brand from ions ago and that’s starting to look like Fordham in the 60’s.

@IndayArtHauz I can’t. His arguing every fricking thing will cause me to jump off a bridge to escape.

At this time I’m flipping my commitment from the @calinative umstudent Hilltoppers to the @TheOriginalCane Ballgaggers. Please respect my decision. 🙏
 
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