MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

The states of Florida, Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, and Utah filed a motion with the North Carolina Supreme Court for 'leave to file amicus brief in support of defendant-appellant Board of Trustees of Florida State University'. This involves Florida State's appeal in the North Carolina Supreme Court regarding their ongoing case filed by the Atlantic Coast Conference against the FSU BOT in that state. An order and opinion was issued in that original case on May 10th, which resulted in an appeal process that has been underway since May 17th with the North Carolina Supreme Court.

The filing says those aforementioned states would seek leave to file an amicus brief in the ongoing appeal by the FSU BOT with regards to their legal situation with the Atlantic Coast Conference in the state of North Carolina. It also states that the plaintiff-appellee (ACC) takes no position with respect to this motion.

In the portion about the 'nature of amici's interest': 'Each of the fifty states enjoys immunity under the U.S. Constitution from lawsuits to which they have not consented. Embracing a long history of sovereign immunity, the Constitution requires a state's consent before a federal court or another state's court can exercise jurisdiction over that state. The States have an interest in preserving the rights secured to them and their constituent institutions by the U.S. Constitution, including the immunity of their public universities from suit in other states' courts without the States' clear and unequivocal consent'.


Under the heading of 'reasons the brief would be beneficial': 'The States agree with the Board of Trustees of Florida State University that the Superior Court's order should be reversed. But the States' interest and insight go beyond the specific facts of this case to the countless other circumstances in which states may find themselves haled into each other's courts'. That portion continues by stating that the 'Superior Court's order contravenes protections inherent in the federal constitutional scheme by subjugating one sovereign state to another. Taken at face value, the rule put forward therein could be the blueprint for a wholesale bypass of state sovereign immunity protections. The States' brief therefore will assist this Court in resolving this case in a manner that not only corrects the error in this case but that also realizes the promise of the federal Constitution that each of the states are equal sovereigns.'

This is the following question, the issue of law to be addresses, if the State's are permitted to participate as amici: "Did the State of Florida, through only the Board of Trustees of Florida Stat University's relationship with a North Carolina unincorporated nonprofit association, in light of a North Carolina (not Florida) statute that did not exist at the onset of that relationship, waive its sovereign immunity from suit in North Carolina's court?'


They added that a state cannot be deemed to waive its sovereign immunity from suit 'except through an express and unequivocal statement of intent by that state'. That does not exist in this case. Just because FSU (and others) conduct business in a foreign state (such as North Carolina), even if subjected to 'sue-and-be-sued clause contained in the foreign state's law, does not amount to express and unequivocal intent to waive sovereign immunity'. It goes on to state that a state does not waive its sovereign immunity by remaining a member of an unincorporated nonprofit association under North Carolina's less specific enactment of the Uniform Unincorporated Nonprofit Associations Act.

The document concludes with this line: 'For the above reasons, the States respectfully request that the Court allows this motion and accept their amicus brief'.

The item is signed by the Office of the Attorney General, State of Florida, with a notation regarding counsel for Amici Curiae States of all mentioned above. Multiple attorney's were involved in the drafting of the document, which was submitted on Thursday, November 21st.

This originally appeared on Noles 247 site
 
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The states of Florida, Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, and Utah filed a motion with the North Carolina Supreme Court for 'leave to file amicus brief in support of defendant-appellant Board of Trustees of Florida State University'. This involves Florida State's appeal in the North Carolina Supreme Court regarding their ongoing case filed by the Atlantic Coast Conference against the FSU BOT in that state. An order and opinion was issued in that original case on May 10th, which resulted in an appeal process that has been underway since May 17th with the North Carolina Supreme Court.

The filing says those aforementioned states would seek leave to file an amicus brief in the ongoing appeal by the FSU BOT with regards to their legal situation with the Atlantic Coast Conference in the state of North Carolina. It also states that the plaintiff-appellee (ACC) takes no position with respect to this motion.

In the portion about the 'nature of amici's interest': 'Each of the fifty states enjoys immunity under the U.S. Constitution from lawsuits to which they have not consented. Embracing a long history of sovereign immunity, the Constitution requires a state's consent before a federal court or another state's court can exercise jurisdiction over that state. The States have an interest in preserving the rights secured to them and their constituent institutions by the U.S. Constitution, including the immunity of their public universities from suit in other states' courts without the States' clear and unequivocal consent'.


Under the heading of 'reasons the brief would be beneficial': 'The States agree with the Board of Trustees of Florida State University that the Superior Court's order should be reversed. But the States' interest and insight go beyond the specific facts of this case to the countless other circumstances in which states may find themselves haled into each other's courts'. That portion continues by stating that the 'Superior Court's order contravenes protections inherent in the federal constitutional scheme by subjugating one sovereign state to another. Taken at face value, the rule put forward therein could be the blueprint for a wholesale bypass of state sovereign immunity protections. The States' brief therefore will assist this Court in resolving this case in a manner that not only corrects the error in this case but that also realizes the promise of the federal Constitution that each of the states are equal sovereigns.'

This is the following question, the issue of law to be addresses, if the State's are permitted to participate as amici: "Did the State of Florida, through only the Board of Trustees of Florida Stat University's relationship with a North Carolina unincorporated nonprofit association, in light of a North Carolina (not Florida) statute that did not exist at the onset of that relationship, waive its sovereign immunity from suit in North Carolina's court?'


They added that a state cannot be deemed to waive its sovereign immunity from suit 'except through an express and unequivocal statement of intent by that state'. That does not exist in this case. Just because FSU (and others) conduct business in a foreign state (such as North Carolina), even if subjected to 'sue-and-be-sued clause contained in the foreign state's law, does not amount to express and unequivocal intent to waive sovereign immunity'. It goes on to state that a state does not waive its sovereign immunity by remaining a member of an unincorporated nonprofit association under North Carolina's less specific enactment of the Uniform Unincorporated Nonprofit Associations Act.

The document concludes with this line: 'For the above reasons, the States respectfully request that the Court allows this motion and accept their amicus brief'.

The item is signed by the Office of the Attorney General, State of Florida, with a notation regarding counsel for Amici Curiae States of all mentioned above. Multiple attorney's were involved in the drafting of the document, which was submitted on Thursday, November 21st.

This originally appeared on Noles 247 site
AI simplified version:

Here's a simple football fan's breakdown:

What This Is:
- 12 states are backing FSU's legal fight against the ACC
- They're saying "Hey, FSU is a state school, and you can't just sue state schools in other states without their permission"

Why It Matters:
- If FSU wins this argument, they might be able to dodge the ACC's lawsuit in North Carolina
- This could make it easier for FSU to challenge the exit fees/leave the ACC
- It's basically like having 12 states say "The ACC shouldn't be able to force FSU to fight this in North Carolina courts"

Reality Check:
- This is just one piece of a bigger legal puzzle
- Even if FSU wins this specific fight, they'd still need to win other legal battles to leave the ACC without paying full exit fees
- BUT having 12 states back them makes this a serious challenge to the ACC's position
- Could affect how conferences deal with state schools in the future

Bottom line: It's a potentially big deal, but not a guaranteed win. It's more like FSU just got some major backup in their fight to get out of the ACC.
 
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Looking at the CFP rankings and recruiting rankings, a move to the B1G or SEC is obviously needed to be relevant. Is there any update on a timeline, court cases, etc?
 
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Looking at the CFP rankings and recruiting rankings, a move to the B1G or SEC is obviously needed to be relevant. Is there any update on a timeline, court cases, etc?

yet, Vandy is important at 6-6 with the 71st ranked class. Half those schools are not looking to hot. Indiana coming off 11-1 has the 43rd ranked class. Illinois 42nd. Something just doesn’t align very well. 4-6 elite teams talent wise, the rest are likely worse than ACC teams BUT the cupcake schedule for Indiana lets them in due to B1G name.

Anyone that says Bama over Miami should also be saying Miami here Indiana.
 
yet, Vandy is important at 6-6 with the 71st ranked class. Half those schools are not looking to hot. Indiana coming off 11-1 has the 43rd ranked class. Illinois 42nd. Something just doesn’t align very well. 4-6 elite teams talent wise, the rest are likely worse than ACC teams BUT the cupcake schedule for Indiana lets them in due to B1G name.

Anyone that says Bama over Miami should also be saying Miami here Indiana.
Indiana can get by a bit without all the elite recruits. They have a coach that can make up for it.
 
yet, Vandy is important at 6-6 with the 71st ranked class. Half those schools are not looking to hot. Indiana coming off 11-1 has the 43rd ranked class. Illinois 42nd. Something just doesn’t align very well. 4-6 elite teams talent wise, the rest are likely worse than ACC teams BUT the cupcake schedule for Indiana lets them in due to B1G name.

Anyone that says Bama over Miami should also be saying Miami here Indiana.
I was just looking for a reason to bump this in hopes it sparked some magic in the air and led to an insider telling us we are off to the B1G for 2026 🙏
 
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Well... I'm back to believing this thread is the most important one for this program to have any chance of a future. An announced, imminent move would be a shot in the arm for recruiting, CFP rankings, and vibes, all of which could use a boost

Always was, homie. Committees and holding calls and portals and Dennis smith and Miami nights uniforms. That is the water underneath the water under the bridge. Those are grains of sand on the beach. None of that **** matters a ******* lick. This thread is all that matters. Stay where we are, we’re dead. Been clear as a bell for multiple years now.
 
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