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Rellyrell said:
(Guyzum, pls 4 give me):

1. If u don’t know what a guy who drives a Vette w/ a big stache represents, u’ve already proven my point.

2. Every yr I get a new a fan, an imbecile if u will, that tries to banter w/ me on something I post that doesn’t fit their fandom. At first it starts off as something innocent, then gradually the snide remarks starts to become increasingly flagrant attempting to rattle my cage.

3. Luckily for u I’m in the spirit of giving, & here to prove once again how some in this fan base is as ill-informed as any fan base in America.

So u say my % are off, right? U know what, I have to agree w/ u, here’s y:

Oregon Class of 2022: 17 (High School)
-Connerly: Hit
-Tucker: Miss (Portal)
-Florence: Hit
-Jackson: Hit
-James: Hit
-Kasper: Bench Warmer/Injured
-Terrell: Miss (Portal)
-Roberts: Miss (Portal)
-Lowe: Hit
-Williams: Miss (Portal)
-Winston: Miss (Portal)
-Luli: Hit
-Taggart: Miss (Portal)
-Jones: Miss (Portal)
-Wooten: Miss (Portal)
-Rogers: Hit
-Mells: Miss (Portal)

7/17 or 41.2% HS

Oregon Class of 2022: Transfer Portal (10)
-Chapman: Miss (Portal)
-Nix: Hit
-Barry: Punter/Specialist
-Rogers: Hit
-Irving: Hit
-Cota: Hit
-Riley: Hit
-Boyle: Kicker/Specialist
-Gonzalez: Hit
-Taimani: Hit

7/10 or 70% Portal

Now, let’s address the conjecture that u proposed in a previous response:

-Were some of the HS recruits committed to Mario b4 Lanning? Yes; but, anyone w/ half a brain knows when a new coach comes on board they have to re-recruit any players their predecessor recruited, which is y this board was fairly confident Luli would follow Mario & Joe here. So kudos to Mario for getting him to Oregon, & kudos to Lanning for keeping him in Oregon.

-In regards to Conerly, U don’t know if Conerly would’ve committed to Oregon if Mario stayed, b/c if that was the case, Conerly would’ve committed to Miami after Mario became coach here!

U see how conjecture & hypotheticals don’t mean **** in reality?

Anywho, back to the recruits:

Oregon Class of 2023: 29 (High School)
-****ey: Miss (on Special Teams)
-Uiagalelei: Hit
-Sadiq: Hit
-Pleasant: Miss
-Purchase: Hit (ding ding ding - part of the 3 deep that already has a sack in limited time)
-Austin: Hit
-Bowens: Miss (Portal)
-Dowdell: Miss (Portal)
-Tuioti: Hit
-Green: Hit (ding ding ding - part of the 3 deep that already has a sack in limited time)
-Cozart: Miss (Portal)
-Martin: Miss (Portal)
-Silva: Bench Warmer
-Porter: Hit (ding ding ding - part of the 3 deep that saw time when Burch went down & already has a sack)
-Wilson: Bench Warmer
-DeCambra: Miss (Portal)
-Limar: Hit (ding ding ding - part of the 3 deep that spells James & Whittington when the games r over)*
*might place him as a miss as he may be portal bound
-Washington: 3rd rotational DL
-Laloulu: Hit
-Mixon (Joe’s cousin) - ST/rotational
-Moala: Bench Warmer
-Boulton: Bench Warmer
-Turner: Miss (Portal)
-Gardener: Bench Warmer
-Moore (Portal)
-Davis: Special Teams
-Gill: Miss (Portal)
-Pome’e: Miss (Portal)

12/29 or 41.4%

Oregon Class of 2023: Transfer Portal (16)
-Brunner: Miss
-Reed: Hit
-Strother: Hit
-Bryant Jr: Inconclusive
-Ludwick: Miss
-Ty Johnson: Hit
-Jackson: Hit
-Burch: Hit
-Tez Johnson: Hit
-Williams: Hit
-Holden: Hit
-Angilau: Miss
-Jacobs: Hit
-Cornelius: Hit

10/16 or 62.5%

Now let me stop right here; u made an absolutely asinine statement, & what’s bothersome about this statement is the pontificating behind it. You admitted you haven’t watched Oregon Football, yet u willingly make an *** out of urself to do what? To show u’re a white knight fan?

From ur post history it shows u rarely post, & between u & I, u should keep it that way.

Let’s talk about how deep Oregon’s roster is:

WR-X: 3 deep w/ 5* 2023 ****ey as the 3
WR-Z: 3 deep w/ 4* 2024 Gresham as the 3
WR-F: 4 deep w/ 3* 2024 Ressler as the 4
LT: 3 deep w/ 4* 2024 Crader as the 3
LG: 3 deep w/ 4* 2024 Brooks as the 3
C: 3 deep
RG: 2 deep
RT: 3 deep w/ 3* 2024 Ferguson as the 3
RB: 5 deep
QB: 4 deep
TE: 3 deep
DE: 3 deep w/ 4* 2023 Porter as the 3
NT: 4 deep w/ 4* 2024 Johnson as the 4
DT: 4 deep w/ 4* 2024 Breland as the 4
Jack: 4 deep w/ 4* 2023 Purchase as the 4
MAC: 4 deep w/ 4* 2024 Mothudi as the 4
MONEY: 4 deep w/ 4* 2024 Platt as the 4
FCB: 4 deep w/ 4* 2024 Obidegwu as the 4
SS: 3 deep w/ 3* 2023 Davis as the 3
FS: 4 deep w/ 4* 2024 Lopa as the 4
BCB: 3 deep w/ 4* 2024 JUCO Laulea as the 3
NB: 2 deep w/ 4* 2023 Austin as the rotational

Do u know how many 3+ positions we had this season?
11:
WRX (2 of them will be gone by 2025)
WRZ (1 will be gone by 2025)
WRY (1 wil be gone by 2025)
QB (2 will be gone by 2025)
RB (2 will be gone by 2025)
TE (3 will be gone by 2025)
LDE (2 will be gone by 2025)
NT (3 will be gone by 2025)
DT (1 will be gone by 2025)
WLB (1 will be gone by 2025)
MLB (1 will be gone by 2025)

Which is why EVERYONE is freaking out about the transfer portal, genius.

What’s the old saying; it’s better to be quiet & let ppl think U’re a jackass then to come on CIS, pick an argument w/ a guy who has a ton of credible receipts to prove that u r one?

How Oregon’s roster is constructed is how our teams used to be constructed in the early 2000’s. Now, here’s a million dollar ?; why in year 3 are we struggling to be 3 deep w/ quality? Fck it, since u’ve proven to be a jackass & I’m in a giving mood I’ll answer it for u; it’s b/c not only were Manny’s players a wash here, but the classes of 2022-23 have now been a wash. U couple that w/ poor portal evaluation sans a player here or two & voila!

But again, believe what u want. It’s ur human right.
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Analysis! I appreciate the willingness to go long, truly, even though bragging about how credible you are on an anonymous message board made me laugh out loud.

- I won't argue about the portal. Mario hasn't hit on nearly as many portal guys as Oregon and he deserves criticism for it.

- My main beef with your original point was that Lanning is a terrific evaluator and Mario is not. But then you used the Class of '22 to illustrate that point and at least three of the players you mentioned (Iuli, Jackson and Conerly) were also recruited by Cristobal, so its hard to give Lanning credit without also giving Mario the same flowers. They both identified good players. And that is BEFORE we consider guys like Banks and McMillan that Mario identified (as did every other major program in the country).

- As for your 2023 analysis, including guys like Green, Purchase, Porter and Limar as "hits" is dirty work and misleading. Green sacked OSU's backup quarterback on the last drive of a 49-14 blowout and played in four games overall. Purchase sacked Michigan State's backup quarterback on the last drive of the game and played in two games overall. Porter was the other half of the Purchase sack and played in three games. Limar at least looks the part, but he also only played at the end of blowouts.

- If all four of those guys transfer, we get to update these percentages right? Because including guys like Terrance Green and Blake Purchase as "hits" means that you should probably include guys like Markeith Williams and Jaden Harris, since they made more of an impact (and to be clear, I don't count those guys).

- You can't possibly **** on me for not watching Oregon football and still count dudes who BARELY played as "hits" with a straight face.

- No arguing with Oregon's depth. They've been way better in the portal.

- Manny's 2022 class was on its way to being a full-fledged disaster, Mario saved it and brought in actual contributors...along with some duds like Moss and Skinner.

I'd rather have Lanning than Mario any day of the week. And you are absolutely right, Lanning's work in the portal is a big reason why Oregon is deeper with quality...even if it is way too early to tell if guys like Breland and Laulea and Obidegwu are actually any good.

But I'd also rather be Oregon and its resources against Miami and its resources. They are swimming in deeper water.

If you are convinced Mario isn't the answer, fair enough, he might not be, so I won't argue with that. But when you start including guys like Blake Purchase as the reason why Oregon has evaluated better than Miami, your point ain't really hitting like it should.
 
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MikeyCanez said:
Analysis! I appreciate the willingness to go long, truly, even though bragging about how credible you are on an anonymous message board made me laugh out loud.

- I won't argue about the portal. Mario hasn't hit on nearly as many portal guys as Oregon and he deserves criticism for it.

- My main beef with your original point was that Lanning is a terrific evaluator and Mario is not. But then you used the Class of '22 to illustrate that point and at least three of the players you mentioned (Iuli, Jackson and Conerly) were also recruited by Cristobal, so its hard to give Lanning credit without also giving Mario the same flowers. They both identified good players. And that is BEFORE we consider guys like Banks and McMillan that Mario identified (as did every other major program in the country).

- As for your 2023 analysis, including guys like Green, Purchase, Porter and Limar as "hits" is dirty work and misleading. Green sacked OSU's backup quarterback on the last drive of a 49-14 blowout and played in four games overall. Purchase sacked Michigan State's backup quarterback on the last drive of the game and played in two games overall. Porter was the other half of the Purchase sack and played in three games. Limar at least looks the part, but he also only played at the end of blowouts.

- If all four of those guys transfer, we get to update these percentages right? Because including guys like Terrance Green and Blake Purchase as "hits" means that you should probably include guys like Markeith Williams and Jaden Harris, since they made more of an impact (and to be clear, I don't count those guys).

- You can't possibly **** on me for not watching Oregon football and still count dudes who BARELY played as "hits" with a straight face.

- No arguing with Oregon's depth. They've been way better in the portal.

- Manny's 2022 class was on its way to being a full-fledged disaster, Mario saved it and brought in actual contributors...along with some duds like Moss and Skinner.

I'd rather have Lanning than Mario any day of the week. And you are absolutely right, Lanning's work in the portal is a big reason why Oregon is deeper with quality...even if it is way too early to tell if guys like Breland and Laulea and Obidegwu are actually any good.

But I'd also rather be Oregon and its resources against Miami and its resources. They are swimming in deeper water.

If you are convinced Mario isn't the answer, fair enough, he might not be, so I won't argue with that. But when you start including guys like Blake Purchase as the reason why Oregon has evaluated better than Miami, your point ain't really hitting like it should.
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I never said Mario was a terrible evaluator; what I said was since his days at UO, he’s had a high turnover rate, & it’s transcended over here. I also said I wouldn’t categorize him as an elite recruiter vs. a very good recruiter & I explained why.

I also pointed out that the classes of 2022-23 are supposed to be the upperclassmen for next season, which will not be the case as the vast majority of both of those classes have either hit the portal or did not make the impact as they were projected to be.

Objective fans have called out why haven’t we had the quality of depth, yet. Oregon’s resources r moot w/o the right ppl leading the way. Of my earliest gripes prior to Mario has been “what is our identity?” We haven’t played complimentary football in God knows how long from every regime. The closest to complimentary football we’ve witnessed since 2007 was probably the 2017 team. This team was the most exciting, however, our defense was exposed once the calendar flipped killing our hopes.

Now my concern is when Ward, Baron, Barrow, the much maligned Mauigoa, Rivers, Restrepo, George, Arroyo, Borreagles, etc. all leave, then what? Now what? That’s a concern. Going back to Lanning & why I said guys w/ limited time have proven to be hits; it’s b/c I’m a Canes fan. When ST26, Rolle, Winslow II got in for limited plays, u saw they were next. Right now, Oregon has a plethora of guys who r next. When Tez Johnson went down, they didn’t skip a beat when Lowe came in for a spell. When Burch went down, they just plugged in an underclassman who held their own.

That’s y I said u can’t critique if u haven’t watched the games. Box scores will lie to u, highlights will lie to u. A perfect example is who u just mentioned, Harris. Harris was a liability all season, but the box score will say he was an integral part, would it not?

I’ve been very consistent, no elite recruiter will bat 1.000 w/ HS or portal players, but just like baseball, u want to bat around 33%. Look at it like this:

-Class of 2022 5/15 (HS)
-Class of 2023 9/26 (HS)
-Class of 2024 9/28 (HS)

By the time 2025 rolls around, we’ll 23 certified ballers leading the way on the roster, & u supplement that with high quality portal players. That’s all I’m saying; being around 29% or lower really makes a huge difference.

That’s how u build a
 
Rellyrell said:
I never said Mario was a terrible evaluator; what I said was since his days at UO, he’s had a high turnover rate, & it’s transcended over here. I also said I wouldn’t categorize him as an elite recruiter vs. a very good recruiter & I explained why.

I also pointed out that the classes of 2022-23 are supposed to be the upperclassmen for next season, which will not be the case as the vast majority of both of those classes have either hit the portal or did not make the impact as they were projected to be.

Objective fans have called out why haven’t we had the quality of depth, yet. Oregon’s resources r moot w/o the right ppl leading the way. Of my earliest gripes prior to Mario has been “what is our identity?” We haven’t played complimentary football in God knows how long from every regime. The closest to complimentary football we’ve witnessed since 2007 was probably the 2017 team. This team was the most exciting, however, our defense was exposed once the calendar flipped killing our hopes.

Now my concern is when Ward, Baron, Barrow, the much maligned Mauigoa, Rivers, Restrepo, George, Arroyo, Borreagles, etc. all leave, then what? Now what? That’s a concern. Going back to Lanning & why I said guys w/ limited time have proven to be hits; it’s b/c I’m a Canes fan. When ST26, Rolle, Winslow II got in for limited plays, u saw they were next. Right now, Oregon has a plethora of guys who r next. When Tez Johnson went down, they didn’t skip a beat when Lowe came in for a spell. When Burch went down, they just plugged in an underclassman who held their own.

That’s y I said u can’t critique if u haven’t watched the games. Box scores will lie to u, highlights will lie to u. A perfect example is who u just mentioned, Harris. Harris was a liability all season, but the box score will say he was an integral part, would it not?

I’ve been very consistent, no elite recruiter will bat 1.000 w/ HS or portal players, but just like baseball, u want to bat around 33%. Look at it like this:

-Class of 2022 5/15 (HS)
-Class of 2023 9/26 (HS)
-Class of 2024 9/28 (HS)

By the time 2025 rolls around, we’ll 23 certified ballers leading the way on the roster, & u supplement that with high quality portal players. That’s all I’m saying; being around 29% or lower really makes a huge difference.

That’s how u build a
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This is a strong argument, not that my opinion matters. I definitely think our classes lack top-end quality and there is no debating that Oregon's portal guys are key contributors and ours have (mostly) been backups or rotational guys.

And I am not positive, but I think we just came all the way around and found common ground here!

I appreciate the willingness to go back and forth and I am not being sarcastic at all when I say that. Happy Holidays!
 
MikeyCanez said:
This is a strong argument, not that my opinion matters. I definitely think our classes lack top-end quality and there is no debating that Oregon's portal guys are key contributors and ours have (mostly) been backups or rotational guys.

And I am not positive, but I think we just came all the way around and found common ground here!

I appreciate the willingness to go back and forth and I am not being sarcastic at all when I say that. Happy Holidays!
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My apologies for the aggressiveness. CIS has been filled w/ trolls, & I’ve had my battles w/ them, but I see ur point. We just had some miscommunication, but we’re all good brotha. Pls understand, I yearn for Mario to succeed here; if he doesn’t, man I don’t even wanna think about if he doesn’t. I’ve joked about not wanting to win the bowl game b/c of the cartoonish trophy, but I’m lying…I want us to get to 11, & carry that into next yr & beyond.

We just have to do a better job in recruiting quality talent across the board, hitting at that sweet spot of around 33%/class. If we can do that, portal transfers & all, we’ll be just fine. I do feel the 2024 class maybe the catalyst. If we hit 33% there & moving fwd, we could be a major problem.

Also, happy holidays to u & urs as well.
 
Rellyrell said:
My apologies for the aggressiveness. CIS has been filled w/ trolls, & I’ve had my battles w/ them, but I see ur point. We just had some miscommunication, but we’re all good brotha. Pls understand, I yearn for Mario to succeed here; if he doesn’t, man I don’t even wanna think about if he doesn’t. I’ve joked about not wanting to win the bowl game b/c of the cartoonish trophy, but I’m lying…I want us to get to 11, & carry that into next yr & beyond.

We just have to do a better job in recruiting quality talent across the board, hitting at that sweet spot of around 33%/class. If we can do that, portal transfers & all, we’ll be just fine. I do feel the 2024 class maybe the catalyst. If we hit 33% there & moving fwd, we could be a major problem.

Also, happy holidays to u & urs as well.
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I was admittedly trolling a bit with the sarcasm, so I probably deserved some of that aggression haha.

But I know it’s just passion on both ends and it’s easy to get a little chippy behind a username and a picture of Ryan Clement, so my apologies as well.

Ultimately I think the jury is still out on Mario and 2 full recruiting classes isn’t enough time to judge his tenure. I get some have already made up their mind but I’m sick of restarting every 3-4 years and we might win 11 **** games.

BUT I do think your overarching point is well taken and there are plenty of cracks in the foundation that Cam papered over this season.

I’m optimistic that our early portal class this year is a bit more quality over quantity but we shall see!
 
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Rellyrell said:
U’re probably the guy who drives a Corvette w/ a big stache, huh? I’m sure there’s a mustard stain on ur shirt as we speak, w/ ur belly slightly protruding over ur belt buckle holding up ur Wrangler jeans, huh? I’m pretty sure when u pee, u’re petrified of peeing down ur leg, aren’t u? I’m sure u’ve looked at Top Gun about 12x, looking in the mirror pretending ur name is Pete Mitchell, don’t u? I bet u hit on girls by saying, “hey, I drive a Vette; wanna ride?” don’t u?

If u don’t get ur Tricks R 4 Kidz, Corn Flakes dumb as posting self off my dyck…
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Did someone send you my Tinder pic?
 
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Rellyrell said:
My apologies for the aggressiveness. CIS has been filled w/ trolls, & I’ve had my battles w/ them, but I see ur point. We just had some miscommunication, but we’re all good brotha. Pls understand, I yearn for Mario to succeed here; if he doesn’t, man I don’t even wanna think about if he doesn’t. I’ve joked about not wanting to win the bowl game b/c of the cartoonish trophy, but I’m lying…I want us to get to 11, & carry that into next yr & beyond.

We just have to do a better job in recruiting quality talent across the board, hitting at that sweet spot of around 33%/class. If we can do that, portal transfers & all, we’ll be just fine. I do feel the 2024 class maybe the catalyst. If we hit 33% there & moving fwd, we could be a major problem.

Also, happy holidays to u & urs as well.
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Eric Close Christmas GIF by Hallmark Channel
 
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atlcane72 said:
You’re wasting your time brother. It don’t take much for UM fans to turn on coaches and/or players.
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We just went 10-2 n have a great influx of young talent primed up ready to take the next step ... n all I see is constant ****ting on Miami as if we're turning into FSU n have no real talent smh ppl were on here complaining n crying about losing ******* Riley Williams :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: dont understand it. Never seen a fanbase go against its own team like Canes/Dolphins fans do guess its a Miami thing lol.
 
Alex_Dynamix said:
We just went 10-2 n have a great influx of young talent primed up ready to take the next step ... n all I see is constant ****ting on Miami as if we're turning into FSU n have no real talent smh ppl were on here complaining n crying about losing ******* Riley Williams :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: dont understand it. Never seen a fanbase go against its own team like Canes/Dolphins fans do guess its a Miami thing lol.
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Mario is not perfect but also, I don’t expect him to be. He’s trending up so I’m riding for now. I’m not concerned at all in DEC about how the roster looks today. Mario earned my trust on the talent acquisition and management.

I don’t give **** how many DCs we have had. Swap him out, Mario. It’s ok to be wrong about things, it’s not ok to stay wrong.
 
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Alex_Dynamix said:
We just went 10-2 n have a great influx of young talent primed up ready to take the next step ... n all I see is constant ****ting on Miami as if we're turning into FSU n have no real talent smh ppl were on here complaining n crying about losing ******* Riley Williams :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: dont understand it. Never seen a fanbase go against its own team like Canes/Dolphins fans do guess its a Miami thing lol.
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It happens every year.... actually every game....actually every play.....
You kinda get used to it .... and it's not just our fanbase....they all do it.... 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
 
Alex_Dynamix said:
We just went 10-2 n have a great influx of young talent primed up ready to take the next step ... n all I see is constant ****ting on Miami as if we're turning into FSU n have no real talent smh ppl were on here complaining n crying about losing ******* Riley Williams :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: dont understand it. Never seen a fanbase go against its own team like Canes/Dolphins fans do guess its a Miami thing lol.
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lol if we dont land a QB, guess what next year looks like. the fins haven't wont a playoff game since 2000. **** out of here w this.
 
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