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nycane said:
The defense has no strategy but blitz. It’s literally the blitz all function on madden
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Ehh thats an exaggeration. Defense may not be college playoff good but its best in the ACC (aside from Clemson, correct me if im wrong here) which is good enough at this point
 
Meast21 said:
Ehh thats an exaggeration. Defense may not be college playoff good but its best in the ACC (aside from Clemson, correct me if im wrong here) which is good enough at this point
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That’s fair. I also fhink Blake calls a bad game. You do see the difference when manny is involved
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Meast21 said:
Ehh thats an exaggeration. Defense may not be college playoff good but its best in the ACC (aside from Clemson, correct me if im wrong here) which is good enough at this point
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This d isn't that good at all especially up front. We got one guy that may be a first rounder.....might be depends how he tests.
 
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heres an explanation of our Diaz defense:

if we play teams with poor or inexperienced OLs we absolutely feast. 8 sack type games. it inflates our stats in TFL and YPP and pass defense. Makes us look like the ‘85 bears.

but if we come across a team with any sort of above average, experienced OL, the defense cant stop anyone. see the clemson ACCCG. three straight drives completely carved up. see the wisky bowl game. or even the Pitt game that year.

The reason is bc our D is the defensive version of Paul Johnsons triple option. Its a gimmick that tries to confuse people up front. When we cant confuse, we have no other answer. We dont play great coverage, we dont play solid assignment ball as our base, we dont rush the passer well outside of stunting and games and blitzes.

GT fans had the same exact conflict with their offense. They lead in a ton of stats, and run trains on many schools. But when they played a team with a great and experienced DL, they got destroyed and couldnt move the ball at all.

Mirror image of Manure’s gimmick d.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
Bravo. That paragraph should be stickied atop every thread throughout the offseason. It would serve to deflect the dependable nonsense around here.

At this point we're talking hundreds of players. Hundreds. This forum and most influenced by a handful of moderators prefers to believe that hundreds of players have underachieved as a group over the past decade or so. They assign blanket responsibility and condemnation to a handful of coaches.

Meanwhile, what is the most likely explanation...the caliber of the hundreds or the caliber of the handful?

It is the reason I have no respect or patience for the arguments on sites like this. Probability is butchered every step of the way. We'll just make the world anything we want it to be.
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I have been saying this for 17 years now. Evals matter. It’s all about evals. They are what bend your talent trajectory up or down.

The problem around here is folks get lost in rabbit holes.

Dmoney likes to talk about talent (stars, draft picks and/or nfl salary, as he describes it) to make the point that our staffs have under-achieved. But why are we bothering point that out? Of course they’ve underachieved. They’re been absolutely terrible. Okay, acknowledged. No one who knows Miami football disputes this. What happens next is folks look at the stars and draft picks and convince themselves talent isn’t an issue around UM — that it’s ALL coaching. Except you’d have to be blind to believe that. Our speed, strength, explosiveness, depth, they’re not there, not at UM and increasingly, only in the rear view mirror in the nfl. The era of Miami players being all over all pro teams is definitely over for now.

The other thing that happens is there is a cabal of folks on these sites who think saying our talent is down is somehow a defense of our putrid coaching, because it’s seen as an excuse for results. So they reflexively attack any argument that says our talent is down. Except pointing out talent issues is not a defense of coaching at all. It’s their effing job to get the talent. And there is no reason in the world to think terrible coaches are somehow good or even average evaluators. They aren’t, generally. But these folks hype our talent as a perverse way to criticize our staffs. It’s silly because it’s bad logic. Our coaches have been terrible at coaching, but they have also been bad at evaluating. There is no tension between those observations.
 
Ethnicsands said:
I have been saying this for 17 years now. Evals matter. It’s all about evals. They are what bend your talent trajectory up or down.

The problem around here is folks get lost in rabbit holes.

Dmoney likes to talk about talent (stars, draft picks and/or nfl salary, as he describes it) to make the point that our staffs have under-achieved. But why are we bothering point that out? Of course they’ve underachieved. They’re been absolutely terrible. Okay, acknowledged. No one who knows Miami football disputes this. What happens next is folks look at the stars and draft picks and convince themselves talent isn’t an issue around UM — that it’s ALL coaching. Except you’d have to be blind to believe that. Our speed, strength, explosiveness, depth, they’re not there, not at UM and increasingly, only in the rear view mirror in the nfl. The era of Miami players being all over all pro teams is definitely over for now.

The other thing that happens is there is a cabal of folks on these sites who think saying our talent is down is somehow a defense of our putrid coaching, because it’s seen as an excuse for results. So they reflexively attack any argument that says our talent is down. Except pointing out talent issues is not a defense of coaching at all. It’s their effing job to get the talent. And there is no reason in the world to think terrible coaches are somehow good or even average evaluators. They aren’t, generally. But these folks hype our talent as a perverse way to criticize our staffs. It’s silly because it’s bad logic. Our coaches have been terrible at coaching, but they have also been bad at evaluating. There is no tension between those observations.
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We have enough talent to win the Coastal....and yet we don't!
 
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TheOldU2002 said:
heres an explanation of our Diaz defense:

if we play teams with poor or inexperienced OLs we absolutely feast. 8 sack type games. it inflates our stats in TFL and YPP and pass defense. Makes us look like the ‘85 bears.

but if we come across a team with any sort of above average, experienced OL, the defense cant stop anyone. see the clemson ACCCG. three straight drives completely carved up. see the wisky bowl game. or even the Pitt game that year.

The reason is bc our D is the defensive version of Paul Johnsons triple option. Its a gimmick that tries to confuse people up front. When we cant confuse, we have no other answer. We dont play great coverage, we dont play solid assignment ball as our base, we dont rush the passer well outside of stunting and games and blitzes.

GT fans had the same exact conflict with their offense. They lead in a ton of stats, and run trains on many schools. But when they played a team with a great and experienced DL, they got destroyed and couldnt move the ball at all.

Mirror image of Manure’s gimmick d.
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I've always liked this explanation of Diaz's defense from last year on r/cfb:

The novel aspect -- which even though I was somewhat familiar with Jimmy Johnson’s 4-3 slide and so shouldn’t have been too shocked to see at Miami again, still caught me by surprise -- is that DC Diaz’s scheme completely abandons gap integrity and instructs backers and run-support safeties to react instantly and take whichever run fits they see immediately. It’s highly aggressive and sometimes devastatingly effective, but at the risk of uselessly doubling up on gaps, losing edge contain, or just plain guessing wrong and getting taken out of the play.
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Good teams know they just need to trick the backers for free running lanes.
 
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TheOldU2002 said:
heres an explanation of our Diaz defense:

if we play teams with poor or inexperienced OLs we absolutely feast. 8 sack type games. it inflates our stats in TFL and YPP and pass defense. Makes us look like the ‘85 bears.

but if we come across a team with any sort of above average, experienced OL, the defense cant stop anyone. see the clemson ACCCG. three straight drives completely carved up. see the wisky bowl game. or even the Pitt game that year.

The reason is bc our D is the defensive version of Paul Johnsons triple option. Its a gimmick that tries to confuse people up front. When we cant confuse, we have no other answer. We dont play great coverage, we dont play solid assignment ball as our base, we dont rush the passer well outside of stunting and games and blitzes.

GT fans had the same exact conflict with their offense. They lead in a ton of stats, and run trains on many schools. But when they played a team with a great and experienced DL, they got destroyed and couldnt move the ball at all.

Mirror image of Manure’s gimmick d.
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1k posts in 4months by a troll

Amazing to have no life to accomplish that... you must have no life
 
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nycane said:
Against uf gave up multiple big plays. You can’t win big with this defense. Every trick play works against us and every competent qb picks it apart. It’s been this way since manny got here
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Our defense is garbage. Watch if we ever get a nice offense, people will turn to ***** about the defense. Everyone's blinded by how **** the offense is.
 
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