Coach D's arrogance

[Bigtip]

plain as day the answer is that dorito has to go. period.

its AGs only chance at getting his team back. these guys are done mentally. we will lose at least one more. probably two

 

[bigmont80]

coach d upperclassmen wouldnt even get a scholly at fsu. saban couldnt make shayon, aj, gaines and others great players.

You gotta be a special kind of retarded. Duke would kill to have any of those upperclassmen.

Duke held VT to 10.

End thread and STFU.

 

[Plzwork4]

I got an idea for you coach D, quit putting your players in position to fail. Players like Howard and Burns should be playing press man. Souf Florida afletes should be attackin.

What happens when you can't generate a pass rush. ?

How about NOT having Shayon Green as your Jack/Cat LB.
How about putting your pass rushing DEs on the field more than just 3rd and long
How about designing a competent blitz????

Solid points. But it also begs the question, maybe we dont have anything better. Losing EJ really hurt this defense IMO. And its no surprise we were desperately looking for a JUCO LB last season, and we are again this season. Our LBs are bad. REALLY bad, and that, more than anything is what is letting teams tear us up on these crossing routes. These guys cant cover to save their lives.

I watched Perryman stare at a WR crossing 3 ft in front of him as he stood flatfooted at least twice in that game. I just don't understand how someone can not figure it out. There is no way that he is being taught to just stand there and watch the WR run right past him. Its unreal.

 

[JHallCanes]

Golden and Dorito have been making excuses for three **** years. And 95% of posters have done their best imitation.

True.

You know you could sit here last year and watch Corey King, Earl Moore and co. flail around every saturday while true freshman backed them up and almost understand why we would fail. Sometimes excuses stem from reality and sometimes they dont.

Sure we have some ****** players on defense, but that excuse has ******* sailed. If their pathetic excuse for playing less talented upper classmen is that they make less mental errors, well then what the **** do the young guys do when they call a defense? Run out to the ******* parking lot?

 

[MajorCane]

Onofrio's arrogance is always sick, never have I heard a man take less responsibility for anything. The worst part is that Golden loves this fool so much, he needs to be able to separate personal from business.

 

[gogeta4]

What I don't understand is, how can they look at the results and not think a change is needed? And by they, I mean Golden. I don't care if this is the defense he wants to run, he's going to be the one ultimately judged by the wins and losses. I mean, at the end of the day, you can't blame"freelancing" and "missed tackles" on every team going for over 500 yards against you. Especially when two of them (UNC and VT) don't have good offenses, with one (VT) being horrible. I can't believe I was duped, and bought the lack of talent, youth excuse last year. I mean, it was true to an extent, but we never should have been that bad. We still should have had a defense in the 50s or 60s. A Miami defense should never be 116 or whatever we were last year. This defense, if it keeps this up, will not finish in the top 75 in total defense. So, yeah, they "improved" from last year, but still horrible, especially in year #3.

my concern is.....given his pedigree (UVA, BC, Temple)......what if Golden is okay with being judged on 9 and 10 win seasons? What if we win 2 of our next 3 and this coaching staff actually considers this season a success?

ive been saying this all year.. Golden and them have never been around winning and what we expect...its pretty simple imo. No Frio coaches his d like he is Temple playing against a Big dog and just praying they dont get beat by 21. Which is his whole philosophy that he doesnt care about anything except for total points. Straight lower expectations.

Even @ Temple when Golden and ocmp had "big games" they lost them in conference....i think they overthink things...which is the reason why every big game i expect what we get...you guys didnt see this VT from a mile away?... Duke is going to abuse No Frio...they did so last year.....and if we have 2 turnovers then we lose that one also imo... They cant beat UVA anyway they have a special sentiment in their heart for those bums.

 

[nycane]

you guys are ripping coach d. i have a family friend who played lb at temple and said he learned so much from the guy.

 

[BosCane]

you guys are ripping coach d. i have a family friend who played lb at temple and said he learned so much from the guy.

I'm ripping the philosophy. And the results. And the lack of adjustment after evaluating the results.

If thats Coach D's doing, then yea, I'm ripping him all the way to the unemployment line.

 

[nycane]

i think we forgot how bad eddie johnson and gionni paul being nuts hurt this team. it is so sad when a raw, inexperienced lb like figs is in on more plays than gaines.

 

[ucrew02]

you guys are ripping coach d. i have a family friend who played lb at temple and said he learned so much from the guy.

Most kids learn a lot and tend to like their coaches. You can take 95% of the high school kids in the country, put them in college and day 1 their learning a scheme they never used in high school.
I've said it before but maybe the issue is simply that he's not skilled enough to work outside of mid majors. I know first hand that the schemes and techniques are on another level, generally speaking, from the mid majors to the good and even mediocre BCS schools. Not everyone is cut out to be a DC in the BCS conferences. If he can succeed in the mid majors, by all means, do that. What's happening in his third year here, though, is not acceptable.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

The old Einstein quote applies--the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. If you pair this with the Golden interview regarding "trusting your teaching now more than ever," it's going to be continued defensive crumbling since the players (apparently) aren't following the very teaching that he's referencing.

Realistically they can only change so much at this point in the season. If they can't identify the need for a drastic defensive overhaul once the offseason begins then it'll be their undoing.

Yes sir.

 

[jump1cane]

its hard to blame the coaches when apparently every week we are playing "one of the best coaches in America". Lose the escuses and provide the results.

 

[gogeta4]

you guys are ripping coach d. i have a family friend who played lb at temple and said he learned so much from the guy.

cool story....but the main problem is u have a family friend that played @ temple...this is um...No Frio belongs coaching at a Temple level school where his philosophy will work..This scheme will cost us 2 games a year with elite talent imo. That may be success for Golden and him..but thats the sort of sh*t that um fans dont appreciate.

Shannon as a dc >>>No Frio/Golden....pains me to say it.

 

[NVA CANE]

you guys are ripping coach d. i have a family friend who played lb at temple and said he learned so much from the guy.

cool story....but the main problem is u have a family friend that played @ temple...this is um...No Frio belongs coaching at a Temple level school where his philosophy will work..This scheme will cost us 2 games a year with elite talent imo. That may be success for Golden and him..but thats the sort of sh*t that um fans dont appreciate.

Shannon as a dc >>>No Frio/Golden....pains me to say it.

this right here. These guys brought their passive bull**** philosophy from loser programs like UVA and Temple and think its gonna fly at Miami. Adjust and adapt to where you are at and with the players you have access to and to the expectations of the school and fans or GTFO.

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

It's not that surprising that Golden would continue to defend D'Onofrio more than two-thirds of the way into the season when we are 7 - 2. I'm not sure what purpose it would serve to come out and say "our scheme stinks and we we need to go back to the drawing board" even if that statement is 100% accurate. However, behind the scenes I have to believe Golden is troubled by the same disturbing trends and statistics that we all see. If our defense continues to get steamrolled the last 3 games he would be insane to not at least contemplate making a change. I think Golden is too smart and too driven to let D'Onofrio drag him down. At least I hope that is true.

 

[caneforlifeforreal]

The only reason some of this has "worked" this year (a la Florida) is because of either a horrific, horrific QB, or we have enough talent to gut out wins against the most pathetic team UNC has fielded in a decade and a worthless Wake team that FSU and Clemson beat by 50 and could have beaten by 70.

We have talent, and I actually believe the younger players are light years mentally tougher than when Golden stepped on campus but two things bother me still today.

1) The OP original argument about the scheme is the problem and our coaches wont fix it

and

2) The nonchalant attitude of the senior QB about a loss that basically shoves our pathetic *** to some worthless bowl in San Antonio or Memphis or Lawrence Kansas or whatever gawd forsaken bowl tie in the ACC has for division chumps. Did he not care that the Orange Bowl was right there for the taking? Dumbass...

Flat out I think Morris was lying when he said that. The game was pretty much out of hand at the end of the third quarter. He had alot of time between then and the interview for it to sink in that they've got their *** beat two weeks in a row. I've seen kids and adults alike act like they don't care AFTER THEY LOSE. It's alot easier to act like you don't care then to admit you lost and it ******* hurts.

He sure as **** looked vested after the Florida game. He looked like he was all in after the North Carolina win on the road. He's ******* lying. He lost and it hurts. He's just trying to find a "cool" way to go about it. fail but I don't believe he or the players don't care.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

One thing that drives me crazy is the predictability and the failure to successfully disguise coverage.

For example, the FSU game where there was a screen pass called after a timeout after showing very obvious blitz twice. I feel like we never show blitz and then proceed to back out or anything of that variety.

Also, when we put the pass rushers (McCord, Gilbert, Muhammad etc.) inside and do the most basic simple stunts to the outside. It is 3 year of his defense and everything should be installed at this point. For a "multiple" defense it sure lacks creativity.

We did not show blitz pre-timeout.

 

[MAGIC CITY CANE]

A lot of similarities to Al Groh getting fired at Georgia Tech as DC (beyond, most obviously, running a variation of the same defense):

http://blogs.ajc.com/georgia-tech-sports/2012/10/08/al-groh-fired-at-tech/

 

[G Reg3rdLeg]

One thing that drives me crazy is the predictability and the failure to successfully disguise coverage.

For example, the FSU game where there was a screen pass called after a timeout after showing very obvious blitz twice. I feel like we never show blitz and then proceed to back out or anything of that variety.

Also, when we put the pass rushers (McCord, Gilbert, Muhammad etc.) inside and do the most basic simple stunts to the outside. It is 3 year of his defense and everything should be installed at this point. For a "multiple" defense it sure lacks creativity.

We did not show blitz pre-timeout.

I apologize I was a bit liquored up during the game that must've slipped past me. However, that doesn't change my overall point, that we make almost no effort to disguise our coverages. For a defense that is supposedly so complex and difficult for our players to understand, it sure is easy for opposing QB's to figure out what we are trying to do.