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Clive Walford

I dont even know this cats numbers but didnt he come up big for us last year? im looking for big things out of this guy especially with the quarterback he has
 
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DMoney said:
And I'll say it again, Walford is not slow. The 18 yards per catch is evidence of that, and I've heard he runs in the 4.6 range.

I'd wager he smokes Sandland in a footrace.
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I hear what your saying... However, if he can't get any separation within the first 5 to 7 yards or find the open spot on the field, it don't matter what his forty time is...
 
teams will have to respect williams big arm and our deep threats this guy will be free to roam the middle of the field. Also williams can move around the pocket and when things break down a tight end your comfortable with is a huge security blanket. again I look for big things out of ole glue feet this year maybe even ACC honors
 
Larry said:
Last year, by season's end, Fisch was scheming to get Walford open and Walford boomed.

I don't think we can make a call like "Walford is due for a breakout year" until we see what Coley's offense looks like. FSU barely utilizes the TE as anything more than a blocker and complimentary route. But, that's Jimbo's offense.

His FIU offense didn't involve much from the TEs...Moses Hinton and Eric Kirchenberg combined for 10 catches and a touchdown.

I'm taking a wait and see approach here. Coley should go HAM with the TE...Sandland is an elite talent...he goes to Stanford or something and he's an All-American and a future second round pick. Walford is good. Both should have big years.
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Agree its all speculative, but if you think that an Al Golden team with talent at the TE position is going to underutilize them, I'd wholeheartedly disagree. Also remember that they recruited the TE position hard at FSU, and Jimbo called the plays, not Coley.
 
Jsily said:
teams will have to respect williams big arm and our deep threats this guy will be free to roam the middle of the field. Also williams can move around the pocket and when things break down a tight end your comfortable with is a huge security blanket. again I look for big things out of ole glue feet this year maybe even ACC honors
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Williams?
 
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DMoney said:
And I'll say it again, Walford is not slow. The 18 yards per catch is evidence of that, and I've heard he runs in the 4.6 range.

I'd wager he smokes Sandland in a footrace.
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No way he smokes Beau. I'm sure they are close.

As for Walford, coming out of HS, the dude was known as a great/raw athlete. Great bball player, which makes you realize what a great athlete he is. I know some argue that bball players are generally "better athletes", but that's a whole 'nother thread.
 
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WildcatDefense said:
Walford is super pedestrian in my opinion. I think people are a little excited cause he made a couple plays during the end of the year. (when he was wide open) That's why his YPC is high, not cause he's fast. He's stiff and he's not much of a knee-bender, which is much more important for a TE than 40 speed. That's how you explode out of breaks and create seperation. I just don't see that with him. I see that in Dobard. He's also not particularly great at high-pointing the ball.
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So long as he's wide open, I don't care if he runs a 7.9 forty...... that's a TE's job, to get open, I don't care if he pushes off, gets lost in traffic runs away with speed, shoots the defender in the face, just get open.



/ Chase Ford ran a decent combine 40, not sure he was ever open while here......
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I'd rather have a guy who's open because he beats coverage, not cause the OC called a great play every once in a while.

The difference between Walford and a great TE is, the great TE is ALWAYS open, even when he's covered. He can high-point the ball, he can use his body to box out, he can create separation, and he's just plain bigger than everybody covering him. I don't see that in Walford.
 
Jerry Rice ran a 4.8 and sure was open a lot. There is a lot more to getting open than speed... especially for a TE. Routes, fakes, adjustments, awareness and more. Some guys just know how to find the open spot.
 
DMoney said:
And I'll say it again, Walford is not slow. The 18 yards per catch is evidence of that, and I've heard he runs in the 4.6 range.

I'd wager he smokes Sandland in a footrace.
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I'll take that bet. I got the Sandman.
 
bomb said:
Jerry Rice ran a 4.8 and sure was open a lot. There is a lot more to getting open than speed... especially for a TE. Routes, fakes, adjustments, awareness and more. Some guys just know how to find the open spot.
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EXACTLY, **** gets 18 ypr, 2nd in NATION for TE's and our fans say "he's slow", "he was wide open", "he got ran down by a cb", blah, blah

smh
 
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I'm happy for the kid... I think he can be special... I liked his signing in 2010 when we were getting ragged on because he was an under the radar recruit... He was averaging like 24 yards per catch at Glades Central... I thought he would be special... I think he'll be our man at tightend and Beau is the other guy... I'm not counting out Cleveland either... He made a good amount a plays as a true freshman for me to give up on him... I'm not going to lie, clive looks slow but I think its just strides... i'll venture to say that he's a 4.6 guy... Reminds me of Jermaine Greshman at Okie... He used to look slow to me but he was just a tall man striding... Clive wouldn't been able to get 187 yards per catch if he was slow... If the kid gets in the open field you'll need a 4.3-4.4 db to haul him in...
 
bomb said:
Jerry Rice ran a 4.8 and sure was open a lot. There is a lot more to getting open than speed... especially for a TE. Routes, fakes, adjustments, awareness and more. Some guys just know how to find the open spot.
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Let's not exaggerate, the GOAT most definitely did not run a 4.8. High 4.5s, maybe 4.6. And once he got the ball, fool ran like a 3.7. But the rest of your post is correct. I'll take a TE who can find the soft spot and get open every day over a track star.

Now, if you can do both? Then you got something REALLY going.
 
FWIW, Jerry ran a 4.71.

But he's an anomaly to the discussion...he's the greatest route runner in the history of the game. No one knew more about how to play wide receiver than Jerry. He made his living running the skinny post to perfection.
 
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