% chances per RW from Grassy

Truth be told, I long suspected that RW was Chefcane Part II. I have no concrete proof of it, but I always found it odd that NO ONE seemed to know who the guy was yet he was such a big shot with such close ties to the program. I never had an issue with him personally, but his info has always been vague and as far as I know, he never really "broke" anything that wasnt already out there. He was one that was fanning the flames of the Spurrier to Miami hype though, IIRC back when Coker got the boot. Just always did a lot of teasing about the "stuff" he was hearing, but would never really give it up, nor did he ever break anything solid. IIRC didnt he say that the personal jet was his wife's or his wife's family?

I honestly dont know if the guy is legit or not, but I have long shared the same doubts that Lu expressed.

I've half-jokingly wondered if he's Paul Dimare. So, it's not like I think the guy is full of **** at all. He was always a thoughtful and friendly dude with me. I think he'd admit that it's fair to wonder about someone that literally no one on the board knows. It doesn't mean everyone over here knows each other, but a lot of guys can get "confirmed" by at least a couple people that they either met at a tailgate, the team's hotel, one of the booster dinners, etc. Maybe Random is one of those guys and just decides to stay beneath the surface.

Random Soze.

I agree he's a friendly guy, and I never had any issues with him. Just got that "vibe" too many times, he always intimated he had all this good info, but never really shared it, and was always smooth enough to be vague or never be able to talk his way out of anything he hinted at that might have been wrong, like the Spurrier thing. I may be crazy, but I had been on Grassy since 97. Didnt he used to post threads called "Ask Coach Random Walk" or somesh*t like that? Thought he claimed to have coached ball at one point.

I just saw the evolution of him as a poster over there over the years, and it felt like a Chefcane thing to me.. Again, no beef with the guy, and no proof he is a fraud, just a vibe I got and always found it odd that no one knew the guy for being such a wired in big shot. There were some other inconsistencies over the years I noted too, but didnt prove anything one way or the other.

I remember that **** about "ax the corch" when he portrayed himself as a football corch. That was his initial persona on Greasy in the 90s. From Div. III assistant football corch, he morphed into Ric Flair with a private jet and inside info in a relatively short time period.

I'm paid to debunk garbage, and I don't buy any of the **** he's pedaling. It's easy to be right when you're super vague. That's how psychics and tarot card readers bilk people out of boatloads of cash every day of the year.

another for remembering the ask coach stuff. but that was before a lot of the people on the boards now knew how to boot up a computer. He did start to come off as very Chef like.

OCF is legit and like another said never got into the recruiting stuff. He could be a **** to people, particularly those that were overly bombastic. He was is and will always be a homer. He made it clear when it was his opinion he was espousing. I believe he and #3 to be friends as well. I never met him in person but had some interactions in email/PM and he was beyond friendly and got me a hook up of sort. I know he rolled his eyes at the Chef stuff.

OLDMANCANE was the only other poster I'd ever classify as a valid insider. When OCF, who is legitimately connected to UM said the only person he'd listen to on the boards for insider was OLDMANCANE said, that's good enough for me.

I always wanted to know who Grassy's source was in the early days and if he posted or contributed. I just know he was from the Houston area.

OLDMANCANE was great, we'd DM once in awhile. He really did have some inside stuff. Very nice guy, too
 
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I was on there for a while...I dont recall a single post with substance.

He might be real deal...I dont know the guy, but it didn't come out on the forum.
i kinda liked the dude but I used to disagree with him pretty badly over Shannon, before I bailed on that site. Including whether he was going to get fired. The guy said no right up until south Florida game that year.

He wrote a long post about how Shalala was not going to fire Shannon and we should all just deal with it, he was guaranteed multiple seasons after 2010.

And i have no doubt he believed it. But it was obviously an opinion, not a made up fact. And i didnt say he wasnt wrong -- just that i dont think he made **** up.

It was stated like he believed it was a fact.
i just disagree. The guy's a judge. He was always careful about what was fact and what was opinion, but he didn't go around defensively qualifying his opinions, either. You had to take the cue from context.
 
Whoever Random Walk is, he's somebody familiar with the stock market. "Random Walk" comes from a famous book called "Random Walk Down Wall Street," by Burton Malkiel.

I think I mentioned something about the book to RW on Grassy years ago, and he acknowledged familiarity with the book.

I'm not sure if this post is serious or not.

I thought the same thing. Lol
 
Re RW, I didn't think he was a fake but also didn't think he was an insider. He struck me as someone who knew a member of the BOT. I also don't think he ever predicted anything clearly enough to be wrong, except for the Shannon firing, which I nailed him on. :cigar:

He struck me as a relatively smart dude who had second hand access to someone who himself didn't have close recruiting info, but probably did have program/U access.

I liked RW because if you ignored the supposed insider stuff, which I never found relevant or interesting, he actually had decent instincts on recruiting. He came around to the negative view of Randy relatively early on recruiting. Maybe I just liked him for agreeing with me, but most homers were still pro randy as the '09 class was unfolding, and IIRC, RW was much more balanced.
 
OLDMANCANE passed away, I believe. Nice dude. Would talk to him off the message board. Guy ******* loved UM football more than anyone I've ever met in my entire life.
 
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Originally Posted by SpikeUM
I dont know RW personally, but he never bragged about his insider status, and his info was usually quite good. He was very private about his personal life, other than he lived in the NE, and attended games in his personal jet.


This. Don't know personally but info was always good surprised he is not here

I'll also add that he went to Penn.

Other than that don't know much. He always came accross as reasonable, and his information may have been vague at times, but he was never flat out wrong on anything. I remember during the whole Gruden fiasco he kept saying that it wasn't happening.

Hmmm...is he an ex-athlete with a big gut?


If he went to Penn, that might mean he went to the Wharton School of Business. That would be consistent with a guy who was familiar with the stock market. I said before I believe he took his name from the book, "A Random Walk Down Wall Street."

http://www.amazon.com/Random-Walk-Down-Wall-Street/dp/0393340740/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358022474&sr=8-1&keywords=A+Random+Walk+Down+Wall+Street
 
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Don't know if you were just kidding, but FlightAware made it interesting to watch Saban working SoFL hard last year. N1UA was the tail number. It has since been made unavailable for tracking.

Yup! It was probably the Bama BOT Paul Bryant Jr. aka Nevin Shapiro Jr. who did that..
It should be illegal to hide that information from the public, they use public airspace and most airports are funded by taxpayers..
Bryant Jr. is so secretive he evens hides his face on the BOT main page lol..
http://uasystem.ua.edu/members-of-the-board-of-trustees/
Dude is one of the biggest crooks around, Roll Tide..

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I went to that website and looked at the activity for Tuscaloosa Regional Airport. There's one plane that has made multiple flights into and out of Florida, mostly Palm Beach but some trips to OpaLocka and Tampa. How do you check on the ownership of a plane if you have a tail number?


Actually, the plane that keeps flying into and out of Florida is registered to the Alabama Department of Rehabilitation Services. More actually, it's a program of that Department that runs or licenses businesses run for the blind throughout the state. Now, why they need a plane, and why it needs to keep flying in and out of Florida, I don't know.

http://www.rehab.state.al.us/indivi...n-service-general/business-enterprise-program

Here's the recent itinerary of this plane. Does anybody recognize locations of possible Alabama recruiting targets? I wonder if they're using a state rehabilitation plane for football recruiting?

Or could it just be related to the bowl game? I just don't understand why the Dept. of Rehabilitation Services program which runs snack bars for the blind needs a plane, and why it needs to keep flying in and out of Florida.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N824S


Check out starting with post #59 in the following thread: http://canesinsight.com/showthread.php?4350-Amari-Cooper/page2

I got a picture of the plane back in December 2011 when Saban was down here recruiting Amari Cooper/Deon Bush. Saban was definitely on that plane because people saw him get off.


Have you ever seen this plane? This is the other one I mentioned. I think it might be owned by a subsidiary of the Alabama Department of Rehabilitation and is located in Tuscaloosa. It kept flying in and out of Florida from Tuscaloosa.

I'd want to know if it's legal for such a state department to lend its plane for recruiting services. This is just surmise, and I might be all wet. I'd want to know if I have identified the owner of the plane that keeps flying in and out of Florida from Tuscaloosa, and why.

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Originally Posted by SpikeUM
I dont know RW personally, but he never bragged about his insider status, and his info was usually quite good. He was very private about his personal life, other than he lived in the NE, and attended games in his personal jet.


This. Don't know personally but info was always good surprised he is not here

I'll also add that he went to Penn.

Other than that don't know much. He always came accross as reasonable, and his information may have been vague at times, but he was never flat out wrong on anything. I remember during the whole Gruden fiasco he kept saying that it wasn't happening.

Hmmm...is he an ex-athlete with a big gut?


If he went to Penn, that might mean he went to the Wharton School of Business. That would be consistent with a guy who was familiar with the stock market. I said before I believe he took his name from the book, "A Random Walk Down Wall Street."

http://www.amazon.com/Random-Walk-Down-Wall-Street/dp/0393340740/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358022474&sr=8-1&keywords=A+Random+Walk+Down+Wall+Street

Shirley you jest.
 
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i kinda liked the dude but I used to disagree with him pretty badly over Shannon, before I bailed on that site. Including whether he was going to get fired. The guy said no right up until south Florida game that year.

He wrote a long post about how Shalala was not going to fire Shannon and we should all just deal with it, he was guaranteed multiple seasons after 2010.

And i have no doubt he believed it. But it was obviously an opinion, not a made up fact. And i didnt say he wasnt wrong -- just that i dont think he made **** up.

It was stated like he believed it was a fact.
i just disagree. The guy's a judge. He was always careful about what was fact and what was opinion, but he didn't go around defensively qualifying his opinions, either. You had to take the cue from context.

Not only is he a judge, but he's a federal judge. Difference between a federal judge and a state court judge is like the difference between Alabama's football team and Belen's team.
 
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Yup! It was probably the Bama BOT Paul Bryant Jr. aka Nevin Shapiro Jr. who did that..
It should be illegal to hide that information from the public, they use public airspace and most airports are funded by taxpayers..
Bryant Jr. is so secretive he evens hides his face on the BOT main page lol..
http://uasystem.ua.edu/members-of-the-board-of-trustees/
Dude is one of the biggest crooks around, Roll Tide..

93.jpg

I went to that website and looked at the activity for Tuscaloosa Regional Airport. There's one plane that has made multiple flights into and out of Florida, mostly Palm Beach but some trips to OpaLocka and Tampa. How do you check on the ownership of a plane if you have a tail number?


Actually, the plane that keeps flying into and out of Florida is registered to the Alabama Department of Rehabilitation Services. More actually, it's a program of that Department that runs or licenses businesses run for the blind throughout the state. Now, why they need a plane, and why it needs to keep flying in and out of Florida, I don't know.

http://www.rehab.state.al.us/indivi...n-service-general/business-enterprise-program

Here's the recent itinerary of this plane. Does anybody recognize locations of possible Alabama recruiting targets? I wonder if they're using a state rehabilitation plane for football recruiting?

Or could it just be related to the bowl game? I just don't understand why the Dept. of Rehabilitation Services program which runs snack bars for the blind needs a plane, and why it needs to keep flying in and out of Florida.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N824S


Check out starting with post #59 in the following thread: http://canesinsight.com/showthread.php?4350-Amari-Cooper/page2

I got a picture of the plane back in December 2011 when Saban was down here recruiting Amari Cooper/Deon Bush. Saban was definitely on that plane because people saw him get off.


Have you ever seen this plane? This is the other one I mentioned. I think it might be owned by a subsidiary of the Alabama Department of Rehabilitation and is located in Tuscaloosa. It kept flying in and out of Florida from Tuscaloosa.

I'd want to know if it's legal for such a state department to lend its plane for recruiting services. This is just surmise, and I might be all wet. I'd want to know if I have identified the owner of the plane that keeps flying in and out of Florida from Tuscaloosa, and why.

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I doubt Saban's flying around in a prop.
 
He wrote a long post about how Shalala was not going to fire Shannon and we should all just deal with it, he was guaranteed multiple seasons after 2010.

And i have no doubt he believed it. But it was obviously an opinion, not a made up fact. And i didnt say he wasnt wrong -- just that i dont think he made **** up.

It was stated like he believed it was a fact.
i just disagree. The guy's a judge. He was always careful about what was fact and what was opinion, but he didn't go around defensively qualifying his opinions, either. You had to take the cue from context.

Not only is he a judge, but he's a federal judge. Difference between a federal judge and a state court judge is like the difference between Alabama's football team and Belen's team.

Yeah, I did all I could not to go there but agree completely.
 
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I went to that website and looked at the activity for Tuscaloosa Regional Airport. There's one plane that has made multiple flights into and out of Florida, mostly Palm Beach but some trips to OpaLocka and Tampa. How do you check on the ownership of a plane if you have a tail number?


Actually, the plane that keeps flying into and out of Florida is registered to the Alabama Department of Rehabilitation Services. More actually, it's a program of that Department that runs or licenses businesses run for the blind throughout the state. Now, why they need a plane, and why it needs to keep flying in and out of Florida, I don't know.

http://www.rehab.state.al.us/indivi...n-service-general/business-enterprise-program

Here's the recent itinerary of this plane. Does anybody recognize locations of possible Alabama recruiting targets? I wonder if they're using a state rehabilitation plane for football recruiting?

Or could it just be related to the bowl game? I just don't understand why the Dept. of Rehabilitation Services program which runs snack bars for the blind needs a plane, and why it needs to keep flying in and out of Florida.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N824S


Check out starting with post #59 in the following thread: http://canesinsight.com/showthread.php?4350-Amari-Cooper/page2

I got a picture of the plane back in December 2011 when Saban was down here recruiting Amari Cooper/Deon Bush. Saban was definitely on that plane because people saw him get off.


Have you ever seen this plane? This is the other one I mentioned. I think it might be owned by a subsidiary of the Alabama Department of Rehabilitation and is located in Tuscaloosa. It kept flying in and out of Florida from Tuscaloosa.

I'd want to know if it's legal for such a state department to lend its plane for recruiting services. This is just surmise, and I might be all wet. I'd want to know if I have identified the owner of the plane that keeps flying in and out of Florida from Tuscaloosa, and why.

95.jpg

I doubt Saban's flying around in a prop.

LULZ
 
And i have no doubt he believed it. But it was obviously an opinion, not a made up fact. And i didnt say he wasnt wrong -- just that i dont think he made **** up.

It was stated like he believed it was a fact.
i just disagree. The guy's a judge. He was always careful about what was fact and what was opinion, but he didn't go around defensively qualifying his opinions, either. You had to take the cue from context.

Not only is he a judge, but he's a federal judge. Difference between a federal judge and a state court judge is like the difference between Alabama's football team and Belen's team.

Yeah, I did all I could not to go there but agree completely.

Not always. The New York State Court of Appeals, when Cardozo was Chief Judge, was a highly-regarded court, and issued many decisions that define our law to this day, including the notorious Palsgraf.
 
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It was stated like he believed it was a fact.
i just disagree. The guy's a judge. He was always careful about what was fact and what was opinion, but he didn't go around defensively qualifying his opinions, either. You had to take the cue from context.

Not only is he a judge, but he's a federal judge. Difference between a federal judge and a state court judge is like the difference between Alabama's football team and Belen's team.

Yeah, I did all I could not to go there but agree completely.

Not always. The New York State Court of Appeals, when Cardozo was Chief Judge, was a highly-regarded court, and issued many decisions that define our law to this day, including the notorious Palsgraf.
Ah hahahaha. Geez, thanks, Professor. Since you seem to have gone to law school, you probably learned that generalizations can be, you know, pretty darn accurate even though there are hundred year old examples that go they other way. If you wanted to be more recent, you could have brought up Justice O'Connor. Or the great Oliver Wendell Holmes, for that matter. None of which would have undermined Franchise's point.
 
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We're parsing over a quote that we don't even have a copy of anymore. Furthermore, Shannon is ******* gone anyway, and now we have a coach who can speak in complete sentences, so we should both have a coke and a smile and shut the **** up.
 
We're parsing over a quote that we don't even have a copy of anymore. Furthermore, Shannon is ******* gone anyway, and now we have a coach who can speak in complete sentences, so we should both have a coke and a smile and shut the **** up.

Oh, we're just yapping about old times, I agree. And I'm not saying the guy wasn't a **** to other posters. He surely was at times. But I respect that, having been a **** here or there myself.

But I've long known his background, and so paid close attention to what he wrote, and was in many of those threads, often disagreeing with him. I found him to be bombastic, and at times too quick to assume the point of the person he was responding to. But that aside, I literally never, even once, perceived him to be claiming facts that weren't true. I think his style was to assert his opinion rather than explain he was stating opinion, so it's entirely possible someone thought he was claiming facts when he wasn't. But if you read him carefully, he was ... careful. True factual claims were set forth as such. Strongly held beliefs were presented directly, but not claimed as fact.

Anyhow, drinks in ATL sometime soon.
 
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